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chubbyfatazn

chubbyfatazn

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So I got into a fender bender today in a parking lot. The lot consists of multiple adjacent rows, with no medians of any sort dividing the rows. I pull into the leftmost row; she pulls into the row directly to my right. I always back in (ironically to avoid hitting anything when leaving), and as usual pulled up a bit farther than the parking spot I wanted. Now, obviously, in order to back in you kind of need your eyes on one of the mirrors the entire time, and I was using the rearview to back in. Nothing was behind me, so I proceed to angle my car to the left into the lot. I shift my eyes to the driver side mirror and see a flash of silver, and the next thing I know I hit her. I impact her rear right passenger side, right next to the wheel well where the body and door meet. I get hit on the exact edge of my rear right bumper; superficial damage to me.

I know that the impact point makes it look like I'm at fault. However, I figured that since I had to have had my eyes on one of the mirrors at all times to back in, that would win me some brownie points. Also, does the fact she cut across two sets of parking bays to take the spot mean anything? I'm probably wrong, and it probably doesn't, but meh.

Diagram for moar fun here.
 
You don't turn your head around when parking in reverse? (I never park that way so this question is sincere)
 
chubbyfatazn said:
So I got into a fender bender today in a parking lot. The lot consists of multiple adjacent rows, with no medians of any sort dividing the rows. I pull into the leftmost row; she pulls into the row directly to my right. I always back in (ironically to avoid hitting anything when leaving), and as usual pulled up a bit farther than the parking spot I wanted. Now, obviously, in order to back in you kind of need your eyes on one of the mirrors the entire time, and I was using the rearview to back in. Nothing was behind me, so I proceed to angle my car to the left into the lot. I shift my eyes to the driver side mirror and see a flash of silver, and the next thing I know I hit her. I impact her rear right passenger side, right next to the wheel well where the body and door meet. I get hit on the exact edge of my rear right bumper; superficial damage to me.

I know that the impact point makes it look like I'm at fault. However, I figured that since I had to have had my eyes on one of the mirrors at all times to back in, that would win me some brownie points. Also, does the fact she cut across two sets of parking bays to take the spot mean anything? I'm probably wrong, and it probably doesn't, but meh.

Diagram for moar fun here.
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Parking lot likely means private property, which likely means there will be no official "at fault" call made. Blame it on her.

Now, after seeing your diagram, she should have been more careful. Those little white lights on the back of people's car turn on for a reason.
 
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TuxDave said:
You don't turn your head around when parking in reverse? (I never park that way so this question is sincere)
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I never back in either but only because I suck at parking. When I do back up, I always turn my body and head around.

And yes...parking lot=private property. There are no driving laws on private property (at least here in MI)
 
I always turn my head around and look out my back window when reversing into a spot... it's so much easier than looking into a tiny mirror.

looking at your diagram... I would say she is 100% at fault. You're not supposed to cross a lane of spots like that AFAIK.
 
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chubbyfatazn said:
So I got into a fender bender today in a parking lot. The lot consists of multiple adjacent rows, with no medians of any sort dividing the rows. I pull into the leftmost row; she pulls into the row directly to my right. I always back in (ironically to avoid hitting anything when leaving), and as usual pulled up a bit farther than the parking spot I wanted. Now, obviously, in order to back in you kind of need your eyes on one of the mirrors the entire time, and I was using the rearview to back in. Nothing was behind me, so I proceed to angle my car to the left into the lot. I shift my eyes to the driver side mirror and see a flash of silver, and the next thing I know I hit her. I impact her rear right passenger side, right next to the wheel well where the body and door meet. I get hit on the exact edge of my rear right bumper; superficial damage to me.
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There's your problem...

I usually back in, and every driving instructor I've had has told me to turn my head/body around. When you turn your body, you can actually see outside both left and right windows.

Your steering is effed when you turn your body, but you pretty much do all your steering when you take your foot off the brake.

But honestly, the other driver's an idiot for not seeing you, and she was cutting across parking spots without checking where no one expects cars to drive through.
 
ebaycj said:
Parking lot likely means private property, which likely means there will be no official "at fault" call made. Blame it on her.

Now, after seeing your diagram, she should have been more careful. Those little white lights on the back of people's car turn on for a reason.
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It was a school parking lot.

I did have my head turned when I started angling into the lot, but my head was angled to the left, and she came from my rear right... guess I should turn the other way and look through the entire car instead of just that one side. I guess I misworded that part of the OP, but I did have my head angled for a bit as I began making the turn.

AMCRambler said:
You were driving while yellow. Automatically your fault.
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Sorry, what does yellow mean?
 
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She was in front of you when you entered the lot, she took a shorter route cutting across the parking lot, yet you arrived at the spot first... pulled past it and started to back up then you hit her? :hmm:

Regardless, the current "in" thing is to absolve yourself of all responsibility for the incident and blame the other person for everything, no matter what happened.
 
Sluggo said:
She was in front of you when you entered the lot, she took a shorter route cutting across the parking lot, yet you arrived at the spot first... pulled past it and started to back up then you hit her? :hmm:

Regardless, the current "in" thing is to absolve yourself of all responsibility for the incident and blame the other person for everything, no matter what happened.
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I thought my route would have been faster. She would have had to make a right turn and then a left turn, whereas I just had to make a (very shallow) right turn. And the parking lot wasn't empty on the rows she drove through, there just happened to be two open bays for her to drive through. Regardless, there was no one behind me when I began to back in. That much I am sure about.

I went back home right after and filed an informational claim for the time being. I think I stressed the important parts fairly well, so I'll see what happens by the end of the week.
 
chubbyfatazn said:
I thought my route would have been faster. She would have had to make a right turn and then a left turn, whereas I just had to make a (very shallow) right turn. And the parking lot wasn't empty on the rows she drove through, there just happened to be two open bays for her to drive through. Regardless, there was no one behind me when I began to back in. That much I am sure about.
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Fuck her for weaving through the parking lot like a crazy person.
 
Well, probably not your fault. But you are asian, so as stereotypes go you are pretty much screwed.
 
rudeguy said:
Things like this make me glad I'm in a no-fault state.
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I've never understand the intricacies of no-fault and whatever the alternative is (...fault?). All I know is every time some moron has hit me, my insurance company has gotten my deductible paid by the other party in some fashion.
 
chubbyfatazn said:
Heh, I purposely left out the fact that the woman I hit was an Asian woman in her late 40s/early 50s. Does that change anything?
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Azn on Azn car crash. Now that's funny. Honestly you both fucked up. Her for cutting across parking spots and you for not turning around while backing up.
 
backing in is silly, you can see why, you're in the way

in college one of the main parking structures had signs saying "park head in only"
 
AMCRambler said:
Azn on Azn car crash. Now that's funny. Honestly you both fucked up. Her for cutting across parking spots and you for not turning around while backing up.
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Yep, both are guilty of DWA...Driving While Asian. Book em Danno.


(and folks wonder why Americans think Asians can't drive for shit) 🙄
 
I have no idea why so many insist on backing in while shopping...for one most lanes aren't set up for it; two, half the fucks end up backing into a cart sending it flying into the car behind them, and they you see them trying to fit a cart behind their car usually rolling it along side of the "other guys" car instead of their own.

Pull in and back out. Save the backing in for home.
 
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