YA-North Korea Chest Pounding-T: Bring 'Final Destruction' to S. Korea.

[Dari]

I agree with the list given geopolitical aspect of it. In the region Israel could decimate all of it neighbors at the same time in short order if they had the will. In SE Asia SK is very strong, if the entire concept of strength being "pratice" then the only country worth it's weight in arms is the US which is not the case.

Could SK defeat the North? Not without the help of the US, but they also do not have a million man army and 10k batteries of artillery pointed at the NK capital. If anything the US has made them weak by staying there. We should just treat them like Israel if anything.

The problems with just leaving them is that Russia, China, and N. Korea would have a powerful influence over them. They don't trust Japan so they may succumb to that influence. Also, S. Korea is our beachhead into East Asia. It is an extremely valuable property.

 

[nextJin]

The problems with just leaving them is that Russia, China, and N. Korea would have a powerful influence over them. They don't trust Japan so they may succumb to that influence. Also, S. Korea is our beachhead into East Asia. It is an extremely valuable property.

That also has nothing to do with their military power. A lot has changed since the cold war ended. A peaceful relationship provides much more to China and Russia and they would have little to gain from simply invading them.

 

[Dari]

That also has nothing to do with their military power. A lot has changed since the cold war ended. A peaceful relationship provides much more to China and Russia and they would have little to gain from simply invading them.

Russia may not care but China would exert powerful commercial, cultural, and political influence over S. Korea if America left. They don't have to invade. People say a dictatorship cannot exert influence over a democracy. But it has happened before. In Europe. Finland chose to be a neutral country because of the immense influence the USSR exerted over them.

 

[nextJin]

Russia may not care but China would exert powerful commercial, cultural, and political influence over S. Korea if America left. They don't have to invade. People say a dictatorship cannot exert influence over a democracy. But it has happened before. In Europe. Finland chose to be a neutral country because of the immense influence the USSR exerted over them.

Which was before Russia joined the United Nations. All I am trying to get at here is that current wartime climates suggest small scale, insurgency type conflict within nations. World trade has drastically increased and it will only continue to get more complex. The only nation that has invaded in the last 2 decades has been the USA unless you count the Georgia/Russia conflict which was initiated by Georgia thinking they would get US support.

North Koreas nuclear program is a few things, a deterent and a big ass sabre to rattle for more aid. They would face extreme concequences from the entire world if they attacked the South and they know it.

What pressure could Russia put on SK that is not a military threat? Not much. Oil possibly but I have not looked at their oil imports and who they get it from.

 

[Ventanni]

North Korea's leadership isn't that stupid, but eventually someone in the region is going to snap with them saber rattling nukes around. I'm no war lover, and I'm certainly not hoping for it, but once North Korea starts bullying around the free world to get more aid, the world will treat it as no laughing matter.

At least now, no one really takes North Korea seriously, and we give aid because we have compassion for its oppressed citizens. But once they have nukes and the capability to deliver them, we'll have to take them seriously, and we'll have to recognize that they literally do have the potential for killing a lot of innocent people in a single blow (even if they probably won't due to MAD rules). But still, no one is going to want to be backed up into that corner. Look at how Israel is reacting over Iran's latest rhetoric.

Someone's gonna snap soon.