xtknight--Pics for you :)

josh6079

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This is why I think Splinter Cell: Double Agent is the best looking game out currently:

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4xAA+HDR | 16xHQAF | Max In-game Settings | 1680x1050 | Vsync + Triple Buffering Off (need all of the VRAM I can spare)

Note: ATi's Adaptive AA has yet to work for me in this game. If someone else has found a way to make it work effectively, let me know.

The story is solid. In this one Sam has lost his daughter, Sara, and decided that he had nothing to lose. He takes the most dangerous mission he can find and becomes a double agent, working for both government and terrorist. They have done a good job to make it almost RPG-like since you can choose which side you want to support more, the NSA or the JBA--government or terrorist. I don't know how deeply the trust levels of both will impact the path of the story-line, but I'll slowly find out if this has alternate endings and what not.

As always, everything looks much better while playing the game and seeing the real-time effects of the HDR lighting (which is honestly very well done), the glimmer and shine of fresh fallen rain from the great specular lighting, the sweat your character puts out under intense situations (I mean, you can actually see it), etc.

And the gameplay is just simply amazing. You first start out sky-diving behind enemy lines with a rookie into a lakeside entrance to a missle silo compound. You swim under some ice to your entry point, pull a guard through it from above and stab him in the chest under water--making it look like he just fell through. Between pulling off little stunts like that, hearing your character breathe calmly while sniping, grappling up-side-down down and breaking someone's neck, seeing the amazing graphics powered by Unreal and going through the very emotion-targeted story-line, this game is way above the quality we get from other popular titles.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
how well will a x1650pro 512mb handle this game?
At max? Not very well at all. My X1900XT gets low 20's most of the time and that's with Vsync + TB off. Low 20's is manageable when you're just sneaking around and climing things, but when the action picks up or you look over a big complex outside it can get down to 15 and really trudge up the scene. Of course, if you have the inferred goggles you can turn those on and the frames go to a constant 30. :)
 

Noema

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Cool. I'll have to look at them again at home on my LCD, because here at work on a crappy CRT they look too dark. They still look great, from what I can make out.

And you are right josh, the HDR does look fantastic. I think developers are slowly getting better and better at it, and it will only improve quite a bit from now on. Gears of War is another game which showcases excellent HDR effects.
 

jim1976

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I'd pick Oblivion,FEAR,Call of Juarez, anyday over this ..
I don't think graphically wise has something that can impress me that much imho..

I want to play the game but it is not the gfx that make me wanna do it.. It's the gameplay.

P.S Why do you need adaptive for? I don't see alpha textures in the screenshots you provided.. xS on the other hand would be a very good idea..
 

nitromullet

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This game looks really good, but based on your screenies it looks like it suffers a bit from the "F.E.A.R. factor": great looking engine used to render a lot of really drab and uninteresting environments where the surroundings are primarily gray walls.
 

TanisHalfElven

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sorry but atleast from the pics that is one ugly game. have you even tried oblivion ? even on my x800gt at 12x10 it looks better than this crap.
maybe its better in motion.
 

Noema

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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
sorry but atleast from the pics that is one ugly game. have you even tried oblivion ? even on my x800gt at 12x10 it looks better than this crap.
maybe its better in motion.

Mm...I disagree. In particular the last picture: the models are quite detailed, the lightning is top-notch and the textures look razor sharp.

I do think GoW looks better than any game out there, but Double Agent does look great. I think the pics josh posted are a wee bit too dark, but you can still tell it's a great looking game.
 

jim1976

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Originally posted by: Noema
Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
sorry but atleast from the pics that is one ugly game. have you even tried oblivion ? even on my x800gt at 12x10 it looks better than this crap.
maybe its better in motion.

Mm...I disagree. In particular the last picture: the models are quite detailed, the lightning is top-notch and the textures look razor sharp.

I do think GoW looks better than any game out there, but Double Agent does look great. I think the pics josh posted are a wee bit too dark, but you can still tell it's a great looking game.


AFAIK and from ppl that have played it, the shadows don't look that good, especially if you compare them to the nice CT soft shadows..Textures may look sharp, but not of high quality.. They also told me that HDR looked badly implemented or like it didn't even exist in many areas ..
The game seems to be poorly coded, and that is a sign of the quick job the developers tried to do.. This idea is strengthened if you consider the lack of SM2.0 path just to make their job easier, while it is obvious the game didn't have any need for SM3.0 graphically wise..
 

CP5670

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The first ten pictures actually don't look very good to me. The other four are far better though. Does the parallax mapping from CT appear in this game?

From those screenshots, it overall doesn't look any better than CT to me (if even as good). I think that has more to do with the choice of textures and environments they depicted than anything else. I would take some screenshots from CT for comparison but I don't have the game installed at the moment.

The gameplay you described sounds like classic SC stuff. It should be worth buying for that regardless of the graphics. :)
 

Yreka

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Sounds like a cool game.. This isnt the one with Starforce though is it ?
 

CP5670

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A while ago Ubi said they would not include it in for future games, so it shouldn't have it. They haven't done anything to remove it from their existing games though. That is the reason I don't have CT installed.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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I don't see much improvement over HL2/FEAR etc. The rain looks like it might be interesting but everything else looks pretty average. The first couple of shots particularly remind me of Nova Prospekt (HL2). The dark theme and some of the furniture and outdoor stuff look like FEAR.
 

josh6079

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have you even tried oblivion ?
Yes.
the shadows don't look that good, especially if you compare them to the nice CT soft shadows..
I will agree with you there. For some reason even when I set the all of the shadow settings tot he max, they still have the bumpy mipmap look. Perhaps there is a tweak that can up the shadow resoultion they have to draw from. (i.e. 1024x1024 to 2048x2048 or 4096x4096)
...it looks like it suffers a bit from the "F.E.A.R. factor"
Yeah, sorry about the first set location. It was at a prison and the other levels are much more detailed than that.

More pics, different level. Sorry, the first set was from the prison break level and, well, how nice can a prison look?

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I don't see alpha textures in the screenshots you provided..
Yeah, sorry. Wrong environment choice for some good pics. In scenes like these you can tell better:

Quality Adaptive AA not working

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allyoucanupload.com is horrible today, must have a server down or something. Sorry, I'll upload them on a different site. allyoucanupload.com is buggy as hell today.

EDIT:....(again)
Nevermind....server was just acting up or something, they're working for you guys right?
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: Frackal
I'm not really digging it
Eh, to each their own. I think that for the type of game this is, its amazing. That and they really did well with the script and storyline. Sam Fisher is more than just a man taking orders in this one, and they've really tried to extend his character out to the player to give us more of an movie/drama than other games do.
 

jim1976

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: Frackal
I'm not really digging it
Eh, to each their own. I think that for the type of game this is, its amazing. That and they really did well with the script and storyline. Sam Fisher is more than just a man taking orders in this one, and they've really tried to extend his character out to the player to give us more of an movie/drama than other games do.


I'd agree with this .. Even if gfx don't look top notch, I'll definately play the game for the rest of the stuff.. I enjoyed very much SC series so far..
Now if only I could enjoy it with my 8800GTX ...

P.S : Can't see any of the second set of pics..
 

Elfear

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Pics aren't working for me. Gives me this error message: "Bucket 8660 doesn't exist or isn't available on this server (aycu21.webshots.com)"
 

josh6079

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*sigh* They work, then they don't, they work, then they don't......

allyoucanupload.com is being buggy today, I'll repost them using something else.
 

josh6079

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xtknight

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Thanks for the pics. Pic 14 is easily the most impressive, but I didn't find the first ten too thrilling. It looks like they could have done more with the engine at hand. It has a hard and detailed look to it, which is nice, though every model looks 'straight' (except for the humans which are actually the best human models I've seen). The bunk beds seem metallic and straight instead of wooden/beaten. I like the wall textures and the level design is pretty decent. I'm not sure what's going on in Pic 13 (the white spots on the column, just overblown HDR?) Also the game is too dark and contrasty for my tastes (more like black/neon StarWars darkish vs. gray/spooky/lost dark).
 

40sTheme

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When I try to see the screens, all my screen has on it is a 0. Weird. Maybe the server is still acting up.
Working now.
I dunno, dude, I guess I just don't like it's graphical style. I don't really see the quality in the textures, they are sharp, but not high quality. The environments are pretty bland as well.