My school sells XP Pro for like $199. And I got no response from the email address provided by Microsoft as my school's contact for discounted pricing listed at $20. T-T
Avalon
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Yeah, as long as you are only using the license on your one machine, you're allowed to call up MS and get it reactivated if you reinstall or add in significant hardware changes. I have to do it from time to time since I can't seem to stop buying Maxtor drives and they can't seem to stop dying on me :|
64bit can be a pain in an office environment, mostly with printer drivers or even shared printers, cant use acrobat, itunes without hacks
I understand the 64 bit version is a PIA as many drivers don't work and new drivers aren't available yet.
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I dont know about you but I hated the first couple times I had to call. I felt as though I was a bad person and was getting drilled with the questions.
Why do you need to re-install
Did the disc come with the computer or did you buy it
What part on your computer did you replace
You just called a month ago are you running this software on more then one computer
Why do you keep reformatting your hard drive
And so on. They dont seem to ask as many lately. I just like to reformat anytime I get a bug or a bug up my ass to clean it all out and redo it to give me something to do
videopho
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Why do you need to re-install
Did the disc come with the computer or did you buy it
What part on your computer did you replace
You just called a month ago are you running this software on more then one computer
Why do you keep reformatting your hard drive
Greed will do it in eventually...
Did the disc come with the computer or did you buy it
What part on your computer did you replace
You just called a month ago are you running this software on more then one computer
Why do you keep reformatting your hard drive
Greed will do it in eventually...
I have the 64 bit edition installed on my home computer. What a pain. There are few anti-virus products for x64 and yes, drivers are still an issue. My wireless adapter (Linksys) was such a pain to get running because the manufacturer refused to support 64-bit. (i.e. no drivers, and tech support says "sorry, we currently do not support 64-bit") I finally ended up using some other company's driver that works off of the same chipset.
Yeah, 64-bit XP really turned me off to experimenting with new OS's. I think I might bite on the 32-bit XP just so I can get my computer back to normal.
My bottom line: Unless you really know your way around hardware/software issues don't get XP x64.
Edit: To think I passed 3rd grade, without really learning to spell...
x64 is not as difficult as everyone is making it out to be. In fact, if you want to venture into a new OS, this is the easiest transition.
Microsoft oem licenses go by the motherboard now. Replace the motherboard, and you need a new license. New mobo = new computer says MS. this is old news people!
AuctionHugh
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I have never had MS NOT ok using a NFR or OEM even when I needed to transfer it from one machine to another. However it has been a few years since I had to do this.
Originally posted by: dustmann
Microsoft oem licenses go by the motherboard now. Replace the motherboard, and you need a new license. New mobo = new computer says MS. this is old news people!
Originally posted by: dustmann
Microsoft oem licenses go by the motherboard now. Replace the motherboard, and you need a new license. New mobo = new computer says MS. this is old news people!
This has been my exact experience and it was over a year ago. I begged, pleaded, and explained that I had already purchased over $1000 in MS software....
"Sorry sir, a new motherboard and processor is equivelent to a brand new computer. Have a nice day."
I bit the ole bullet and purchased a retail version of XP Home. Tomorrow I build my Conroe upgrade to that PC. Let's see if they accept the re-install of the retail version or not.
(wow, what a lame first post...
)You shouldn't have any problem with a "retail version" of XP. The OEM versions are the only ones locked into certain hardware.Originally posted by: Mongrel
Originally posted by: dustmann
Microsoft oem licenses go by the motherboard now. Replace the motherboard, and you need a new license. New mobo = new computer says MS. this is old news people!
This has been my exact experience and it was over a year ago. I begged, pleaded, and explained that I had already purchased over $1000 in MS software....
"Sorry sir, a new motherboard and processor is equivelent to a brand new computer. Have a nice day."
I bit the ole bullet and purchased a retail version of XP Home. Tomorrow I build my Conroe upgrade to that PC. Let's see if they accept the re-install of the retail version or not.
(wow, what a lame first post...
No, selling NFR software is not legal. Surplus computers has several Microsoft violations on their site and they have been reported.
RebateMonger
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I don't know if you can "legally" sell NFR software or not. Microsoft, of course, says "No". But several "reputable" companies are openly doing it and MS hasn't been able to stope them as far as I can see. It's a messy question. :disgust:
By the way, MOST Microsoft NFR software isn't the OEM version. It's typically identical to the Retail version. But when you read the EULA you'll see that NFR software has special use terms. Something like: "Only for test, evaluation, and demonstration purposes".
By the way, MOST Microsoft NFR software isn't the OEM version. It's typically identical to the Retail version. But when you read the EULA you'll see that NFR software has special use terms. Something like: "Only for test, evaluation, and demonstration purposes".
NFR = not-for-resale from an individual or business
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/dec05/12-15MAPSDecPR.mspx
If more people would report violations then it's possible that we'd see even more lawsuits.
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/ReportingUs.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/dec05/12-15MAPSDecPR.mspx
If more people would report violations then it's possible that we'd see even more lawsuits.
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/ReportingUs.mspx
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from counterfeit products to not-for-resale software deceitfully obtained and sold at retail
Not saying one way or the other that what they are doing is right or wrong, I wouldnt know, but they are far from selling either one at retail prices IMO.
Not saying one way or the other that what they are doing is right or wrong, I wouldnt know, but they are far from selling either one at retail prices IMO.
If you want to experiment with x64 this looks like a good route. Yes it's the grey market, but at the same time it's much better/safer way to get into testing the OS then torrents.
If you want the 32-bit, then just spend the extra $30-$40 and go fully legit from Newegg.com or another well respected vendor.
If you want the 32-bit, then just spend the extra $30-$40 and go fully legit from Newegg.com or another well respected vendor.
- Functional Testing out x64 with an App you may be developing or a mission critical App at your place of work.
- Performance Testing differances of a particular app between x64 and XP-Pro.
I know it's a viable OS on it's own, but there could still be lingering compatability issues that could simply be the fault of bad app programing and not bad OS programing. Some of use didn't have the time to test the above out durring the beta and we aren't going to do any rollouts till we have hard evidence everything will work.
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