XP is HORRIBLE, how can you even say it's good

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S0me1X

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I still hate how you can't completely disable mouse acceleration in XP... wonder why MS put it in in the first place :|
The funny thing is, there will probably never be a fix from Microsoft because they don't really care about the few gamers who actually notice the difference... maybe Logitech will release some mouse driver to fix it.
 

rc5

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So what's your sound card? I had a s3 sound card which crashed Win2k like hell(No problem under win98). After I removed it, everyone went smoothly.
 

bigshooter

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I have a p3-866 with 512megs ram and am running the evil detonator drivers and couldn't be happier. I was crashing win2k all the time (mainly just when I was playing games), but even internet explorer locked up quite a bit. Reinstalled xp (went back to 2k a while ago) and am amazed by the speed and reliability increase. Games are even a ton faster. Stuff that would lock up win2k is escapable with xp. Plus I forgot how nice this cleartype font was.
 

CTho9305

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<<

<< Operator Error!

Once again..........thousands of people are not wrong.

If it does not work right, the problem is YOU, not XP.
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Then everyone having problems with XP on Anandtech's forums are at fault? You cannot concieve of one condition in which the weakness, the fault's origin, is the operating system's manufacturer? What drugs are you on, and how can I get some? Earth to dave8311, NO SOFTWARE COMPANY IS THAT GOOD. And Microsoft has a history of releasing buggy operating systems. If they had no problems, no weaknesses, etc. then they would have no need to Service Packs. Oh, Service Packs are added features, right? And which little pill made that the conclusion?
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not necessarily, but in general, yes. EVERYONE I know who has tried XP (about 90% of the people on my floor on the dorm) has loved it... those who went back to win98 returned. The only issues we have is sometimes when halflife crashes, as was already said, the resolution doesn't always change. I had an uptime of 13 days before I felt a need to change my multiplier :D. it didn't feel any slower than when I first booted, and I've been doing lots of poor-quality coding (my stuff still crashes ;)) - the win98 machines that run my code tend not to live very long.

XP is the best, it runs smooth, its so reliable, and it never freezes. ;)

I've got a question for you. Have you used ANY OTHER OS on this box? Try win98, if you are so inclined. Try linux. If they work flawlessly, format and try XP again. If it still doesn't work, well, then at least we have some evidence your hardware is functional.
 

dave8311

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Hey A-hole.........this discussion did not involve you, so shut up.

I didn't say XP was flawless.........I responded to the original post which stated that

<< XP is HORRIBLE, how can you even say it's good >>

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It's not horrible.....and the kind of problems he is having is not XP fault. The operator did something wrong, to cause all these problems.

This has nothing to do with drug use.......grow up!
 

Warblad13

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<< Operator Error!

Once again..........thousands of people are not wrong.

If it does not work right, the problem is YOU, not XP.
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human error is a b!tch
thank god i didnt have any problems with winxp






from, ME
 

JoPalm

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Mine is fine here except for CS cause my video card doesn't have any good opengl drivers..voodoo :(. But other than that it's all fine over here...and i'm on a cel500 w/ 256sdram :(. Hehe
 

GAZZA

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I am having no problems myself with XP , runs pretty well, but one question i have for you all who also arent having any problems is how did you install it , was it a completely fresh install from a formatted drive ?
Or did you upgrade from win98/ME/2000 ?
I would me more inclined to hear that users who upgraded their OS to XP to have the majority of problems rather than from those installing from new .
 

Insidious

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I gotta put in one more vote for the XP is running great here.

I have two comps (identical setups). They are mainly for gaming and I always believed booting every 6 or 7 hours was just part of life..... Well not anymore! My teenage son and his buds play these things night and day..... The only glitch I have seen after 3 weeks is my son froze his up when he tried to play Nascar Racing4 on-line while he was downloading a file. But with a reset (the ONLY one in all this time) life was good again.

Since this is just the 30 day trial for me, I let XP upgrade instead of a clean install. (shadowed my 98 (se) hd's first so I can get back if I choose to)

If things stay this good, I am gonna make the call, pay the $$ and smile about it!

(are you using Raid/SCSI stuff? If you don't get those drivers right, you can see big probs.)

 

Aenygma

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...Um werd! lol.

XP, has given 90% of the people *I* know tons of problems.

1. No rear sound
2. crashes
3. can't find a .lst file ( this is a good one lol read the paper on it from MS)

So stop acting all high and mighty. If it works great for you, thats kewl, but stop with the putting ppl down, and just try to help them.

Now let's all hug.

As for me... I shall see tomorrow how it runs on *my* machine
 

ToBeMe

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Absolutely no problems here with XP!:) We've now loaded it on 37 systems since it's debut and we also run it on all but 2 of our systems here at the Office. (the other 2 are Linux based) I have now completed switching all 5 of my home systems over as well and everyone loves it! As mentioned above, the kids love it because they don't need to reboot, and it is much more compatible with many of their games.

We have also noticed that tech. support calls on XP are lower than any new O/S we have loaded prior so it's saving the customers a lot of time & money at that end.

I feel sorry for those having problems with XP, perhaps as also stated above it's an "upgrade" problem, or a hardware problem. We have had several people come in and want to upgrade to XP with older systems and we will advise them against it. Our tests have shown that 500Mhz is a minimuim for good performance (700 seems to make a big difference too though) and 256mb of ram is quite beneficial though not absolutely neccessary.

I have to say that I am very pleased with XP and hope those expieriencing problems get things straightened out, or revert back to what seems to work best for them!:)
 

her209

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XP Explorer (not IE) crashes constantly :( After I log into the computer, about five minutes of normal usage, the dang thing crashes.

Don't know what could be wrong.

I have standard hardware: Asus CUSL2, Mushkin RAM, IBM HDD, Netgear NIC... nothing generic and still has problem :(

BTW, I have done multiple clean installs on the machine and the problems still persists. I was running W2K before and had no issues...
 

winterlude

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I'm always surprised by how few people check their RAM when they have a lot of crashes. Always try to eliminate it from the equation by running a burn-in test diagnostic for a few hours. If it fails any of the tests, you know what the probable cause is. If it passes, then go through all these other extremely frustrating and time consuming steps of reformatting, reinstalling etc.
 

smp

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Look up memtest on google and check your ram. I've had a situation where ram worked fine with 98 installed, but wouldn't even let win2k onto the hard drive.. replaced the ram, the problem went away. It's very possible.

Now

Do a search for "slow" in this section of the forums and see what comes up the most. Thanks!
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA.. that's wicked.

I took a performance hit upgrading to win2k .. I ain't taking another one going to XP .. and for WHAT FVCKIN REASON? WHY DO WE NEED A NEW FVCKIN WINDOWS EVERY FVCKIN YEAR? What the fvck is up with that? Man Bill Gates go fvck yourself..

I still use NT at school and it's incredible .. this on a PIII 450 and it runs as fast as win2k on my machine at home (granted my machine plays games faster and compresses Mp3's faster etc.. but general use, browsing folders etc, is the same) ... fvckin windows man! Win2k does everything I need and it is a good OS.. now why would I upgrade to XP? Oooh.. everyone else is!!!!! Meh.. XP can go fvck itself.
 

Aenygma

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Ok done. How it went for me on my personal machine.

Well...... It had one hiccup during it's install where I got some odd error, It did continue and I did finish the install, but I am very anal so I re installed it, and never got that error the second time.

I don't have to worry about the whole sound card issue, because I use Audigy, and it roxors. :)


We shall see how it runs in the next few days.
 

Aenygma

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hmmm... Very odd problem just came up... I am moving Mp3's that I have archived on CD's to my D: drive. It keeps telling me that the CD is not formatted properly or in a way that windows can read it. Yet, these are the same discs I have used many times, and just tried them on a machine with 98 in it, and it read them fine. I removed CD re inserted it, and then XP see's it. VERY ODD. It has done this with 2 of the first 3 Cd's I have used... I have many more to go... :(
 

fow99

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<< Operator Error!

Once again..........thousands of people are not wrong.

If it does not work right, the problem is YOU, not XP.
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That sounds exactly like Gates' tone.
'Hey you computer company there, install Windows on everything machine you sell and don't expect me to do any technical support. It anything is wrong, check the custome first and if there is still problem, check your hardware.'

 

Aenygma

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Hmm.. here is "another" odd ball error to report. While transfering those said Mp3 files, it stopped in the middle of a couple of dics's now and said, "cyclic run error" ????? There is a new one for me. lol.

Also, why does this OS never seem to remember what view I tell it I like. I keep hitting list, and the next time I open the same folder it puts them in detail form.
 

CTho9305

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<< Hmm.. here is "another" odd ball error to report. While transfering those said Mp3 files, it stopped in the middle of a couple of dics's now and said, "cyclic run error" ????? There is a new one for me. lol.

Also, why does this OS never seem to remember what view I tell it I like. I keep hitting list, and the next time I open the same folder it puts them in detail form.
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bad drive/dics. CRC is an error checking method.
 

md300

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well i am going to open my mouth and insert foot !
well unpluGGedddd I am sorryI have it runing on three machine and it runs fine , you said you installed the latest drivers did you remove all drivers first , then install new drivers . if not you just mixing drivers and guess what they wont work , only draw back to windows XP seems to be in area of the CDRW programs . many and most arent working too good yet give them few more weeks and bet most will work fine , I feel microsoft went to far when they tried to install there own cdr programs that dont work but thats the only complant I have been runing mine between test version and released version several months now!!!!!!