XP 2400+'s hit front page of Newegg.com

[Lucky]

overpriced.

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: Lucky
overpriced.

R&D does not come cheap. What were the prices of Intel CPUS when they first came out?? Go figure.

 

[AnAndAustin]

🙂 Not only that but AMD are forced (by their own good will and rep) to adhere to SktA for the life of AthlonXP which must also make things harder and thus more expensive, look how many times Intel have changed their Skts in the life of SktA. Added to which IIRC the AthlonXP 0.13mu T.bred-B uses a 9 layer design (original AthlonXP used 7, T.bred-A used 8) while the P4 with it's new Skt478 only uses 6. It prob costs more to R&D and manu Axp-B than the equivilent P4's. Still if I had to buy a CPU above XP2000+ it would have to be P4 as XP2400+ is simply too expensive (as with all new top hw). I'll get an XP2000+ type CPU and sit tight, in 6 months that XP2400+ should be a REAL bargain!

😉 Quote from a good friend of mine about what SktA has faced and faced VERY well over the years:

Slot 1 Katmai
Slot 1 Coppermine *
Socket 370 Mendocino Celeron
Socket 370 Celermine *
Socket 370 Coppermine *
Socket 370 Coppermine-T **
Socket 370 Tualatin ***
Socket 423 Williamette
Socket 478 Northwood **
Socket ??? Prescott

* Almost always meant new motherboard time.
** Sometimes meant new motherboard.
*** Pretty much always meant new board.
** Intel said it was going to happen, but why did they need to? Lots of early adopters are still running Willys on 423......

 

[JackBurton]

You are being just plain unrealistic thinking that AMD's flagship CPU will debut at $110...that's just silly. WTF would they even bother? An OEM 2100+ Palomino is ~$120, and you were expecting $110 2400+'s? C'mon man, did you even think before posting that? Jeez..

A 2400+ is meant to compete with the 2.4Ghz P4 and the price's are similar...makes sense to me. I imagine the Retail 2400+ will level off a little below the 2.4Ghz P4 once the market gets saturated with them more..


Let's see...

OEM 2100+ Palomino - ~$120
OEM 2200+ Tbred - ~$146
OEM 2400+ Tbred - $110

Yeah..that's a good pricing structure..

It's not my problem AMD can't keep up with Intel. There is NO way I'm going to pay MORE for a 2400+ than a P4 2.4B GHz chip! There "flagship" CPU is too little too late. AMD CAN'T price their chips anywhere close to Intel's because at that point, MOST people will take a P4 over an AMD chip any day (similarly rated CPUs). AMD better price 'em cheaper than P4s or they are going to lose the battle, no question about it. Now if it was the case where AMD had the Hammer out and was slapping the P4 around, then that would be a different story.

 

[HendrixFan]

Its actually good for AMD to price closer to Intel. They need to make money, and that wont happen selling high end chips for $100. Id take an AMD chip over an Intel chip at the same price, given that AMD boards are much cheaper.

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: AnAndAustin

😉 Quote from a good friend of mine about what SktA has faced and faced VERY well over the years:

Slot 1 Katmai
Slot 1 Coppermine *
Socket 370 Mendocino Celeron
Socket 370 Celermine *
Socket 370 Coppermine *
Socket 370 Coppermine-T **
Socket 370 Tualatin ***
Socket 423 Williamette
Socket 478 Northwood **
Socket ??? Prescott

* Almost always meant new motherboard time.
** Sometimes meant new motherboard.
*** Pretty much always meant new board.
** Intel said it was going to happen, but why did they need to? Lots of early adopters are still running Willys on 423......

you overlook the fact that AMD used Slot A for quite a while while Intel was using Slot 1, and I also think it's a bit unfair to call all the interations of Socket 370 CPUs different packages, since most of those boards could run a very very wide variety of P!!! chips, usually everything up to the tualitin which was never suposed to be a major chip for personal use anyway.

Kramer

 

[JackBurton]

They need to make money, and that wont happen selling high end chips for $100.

A 2400+ CPU for AMD might be high end, but it isn't high end in the desktop CPU market. I understand they need to make money but I'm not going to be paying for their chips because I feel sorry for them. I have a P4 system and an XP system and they are both great. But I bought the AMD system because it was a great deal. If they are similarly priced, I'd go with Intel and so would about 99% of the population. If you think otherwise, fine. But we'll see what happens down the line.

Id take an AMD chip over an Intel chip at the same price, given that AMD boards are much cheaper.

Which AMD boards are you referring to? Intel has ~$80 boards too, and that is about the price for a decent AMD board. So now what is your reason for buying an AMD chip over an Intel?

 

[HendrixFan]

I meant AMD's high end, which happens to be "midrange" now compared to Intel.

A good EpoX board can be had for $90 for an AMD system. $150 for Intel (last I checked, around about the time the 1.6As were popular when I was considering getting one).

Of course a good cheap Intel board runs $80, but you can get a good cheap AMD board for $50 (ECS board Ive recommended to alot of value builders).

I do agree with you that AMD is no longer the value king they were just a short while back, though I dont necessarily believe Intel is better than AMD at the same speed and price. Different opinions I guess.

 

[IgoByte]

I'm actually pretty disappointed by AMD. What's the big deal about this processor finally being out in numbers?

I'll stick with Intel until AMD catches up...

 

[Ben50]

Would I be able to pop an XP2400+ into my Epox 8KHA? Right now I have an athlon 1.4ghz and it is really starting to feel sluggish on some of my progs and games.

 

[kingbob]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

You are being just plain unrealistic thinking that AMD's flagship CPU will debut at $110...that's just silly. WTF would they even bother? An OEM 2100+ Palomino is ~$120, and you were expecting $110 2400+'s? C'mon man, did you even think before posting that? Jeez..

A 2400+ is meant to compete with the 2.4Ghz P4 and the price's are similar...makes sense to me. I imagine the Retail 2400+ will level off a little below the 2.4Ghz P4 once the market gets saturated with them more..


Let's see...

OEM 2100+ Palomino - ~$120
OEM 2200+ Tbred - ~$146
OEM 2400+ Tbred - $110

Yeah..that's a good pricing structure..

It's not my problem AMD can't keep up with Intel. There is NO way I'm going to pay MORE for a 2400+ than a P4 2.4B GHz chip! There "flagship" CPU is too little too late. AMD CAN'T price their chips anywhere close to Intel's because at that point, MOST people will take a P4 over an AMD chip any day (similarly rated CPUs). AMD better price 'em cheaper than P4s or they are going to lose the battle, no question about it. Now if it was the case where AMD had the Hammer out and was slapping the P4 around, then that would be a different story.

Yea, but the 2400+ is faster than the 2.4B in many applications...