Question XFX Rx 5700 DD has been lowered to $300

[justin4pack]

I was thinking of getting a 5600 XT but now does it make sense to go with the 5700? I also heard you can flash the XT Bios? Has anyone done this?

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EDIT not for my machine but the wifes.

 

[Arkaign]

It's pretty late in the game to spend that much on a 6GB part IMHO, with the 9th gen consoles hitting later this year. Scour for a 5700. Slightly faster, but will likely be better suited for the next few years.

 

[Arkaign]

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And bingo bango, a $300AR 8GB 5700. This really is the best deal right now in the price range, so you were right on target.

 

[Arkaign]

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XFX RX5700 DD Ultra to XFX RX5700XT THICC II Ultra Bios Flashing

After reading through the Techspot article related to flashing the XFX RX5700 DD Ultra to a RX5700 XT, I attempted to do the same thing with my DD Ultra, but keep on running into a SubsystemID mismatch error when using the AMD Flash Utility. I've tried every version of the XFX 5700 XT Bios...

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Do this, and you'll likely get a card that is closer to 5700XT performance than any 5700 model. Just pair it with a judiciously chosen undervolt as well.

Look at post #43 in particular on the XFX flash thread on TPU.

 

[Stuka87]

The XFX already has an inadequate cooling solution, not sure I would push the clocks up even higher. An undervolt may help enough.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

GamersNexus showed the cooler is really bad on this card, and will get the VRAM to borderline dangerous temperatures without the fans being run pretty high. One of the biggest problems is the backplate actually acts to trap heat above the RAM chips, as there is a big gap between it and the card. Another problem is all this plastic crap in the shroud to make it look like it has a beefy cooler when it's just for show and the cooler itself looks pretty normal. A third problem is it uses stainless steel instead of aluminum or copper for the coldplate between the gpu and the heatpipes. Also two heatpipes don't even make contact with the coldplate.

Though they were crapping all over the $450 version of the 5700 XT because at the time it cost $50 extra over the 5700 XT MSRP for very inferior cooling in the Thicc II cooler. At $300 for a 5700 that's a whole different ballgame. Sure it's not optimal since you're going to have to run the fans higher than other 5700 to properly cool the VRAM especially, but that's why it's $50 cheaper than most 5700 now. Also if you're confident in your skills taking cards apart and putting things back together, GamersNexus showed a pretty good improvement in temperatures by removing the backplate and the unnecessary plastic crap (eg I think all the plastic other than the part of the shell with the fans connected).

GamersNexus has three different videos on this specific THICC II cooler on the 5700 XT, so check them out before buying. I don't mind fan noise myself so I'd probably jump on it if I was in the market for a $300 gpu despite the fact I don't think I'd go to the trouble to remove the plastic crap and the terrible backplate (scared I'd chip a corner on the gpu die while reattaching the cooler). And XFX gives you a 3 year warranty while some AIB manufacturers like Sapphire will only do two year.

 

[Arkaign]

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Temps can go down if you use the extended Radeon tools to undervolt. 10-20% increased performance and lower heat to boot.

 

[Stuka87]

AMD hid the true power of the Radeon RX 5700… here's how to unlock it

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Temps can go down if you use the extended Radeon tools to undervolt. 10-20% increased performance and lower heat to boot.

True, but this specific card has major cooling issues where it actually traps hot air inside the shroud and cooks the VRMs.

 

[Guru]

I was thinking of getting a 5600 XT but now does it make sense to go with the 5700? I also heard you can flash the XT Bios? Has anyone done this?

Amazon.com: XFX Rx 5700 8GB GDDR6 Dd Ultra w/Boost Up to 1750MHz 3xDP HDMI PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card Rx-57XL8LBD6: Computers & Accessories

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EDIT not for my machine but the wifes.

Its fine. Again if you only play at 1080p then it won't be an issue. Plus with GDDR6 its going to help a lot with not saturating the memory buffer. Because its not how much video memory the card can story, but how much it can process. Yeah 8GB would obviously be better and more future proof, but again I don't see an issue arising with 6GB for the next 2 years.

If this was 6GB GDDR5 then I'd say avoid it, but with GDDR6 it will process memory faster, so a smaller buffer is fine. I mean if we had GDDR7 today working at 22gbps with just 4GB, it will still be perfectly fine. Most memory data is not larger than 500mb individually, unless you are playing in 4k and the game is using ultra quality textures, then you obviously want 8GB or more, because few individual files can overload a 4GB buffer.

I'd say its a great card, great value, I don't see any potential issues with the 6gb memory in the next 2 years at 1080p.

The RX 5700 is obviously faster and comes with faster 8GB memory, its about 8% faster on average and you can flash the bios to make it up to 12% faster as well, though at those clocks it does consume a lot of power, in fact even more so than the RX 5700xt.

 

[happy medium]

I think it's too late to buy a new card, new cards are literally months away . Better to save your money and wait.

 

[Stuka87]

I think it's too late to buy a new card, new cards are literally months away . Better to save your money and wait.

New technology is always "months away". If one waits for the next best thing, they would literally never ever buy anything. And there is zero proof of new cards being months away, only unproven rumors that have zero impact on whether he should get a 5600XT or a 5700.

 

[happy medium]

New technology is always "months away". If one waits for the next best thing, they would literally never ever buy anything. And there is zero proof of new cards being months away, only unproven rumors that have zero impact on whether he should get a 5600XT or a 5700.

Well Lisa Su said the entire Navi line up will be refreshed in the year 2020.
Nvidia will announce the 3080 and 3070 in the late spring/ summer.
If history repeats itself and it almost always does there will be a 2080 class card for about $350 in about 6 months.
I've been here long enough to know that, its almost a guarantee. I dont know why anyone would think any different.

 

[Elfear]

Well Lisa Su said the entire Navi line up will be refreshed in the year 2020.
Nvidia will announce the 3080 and 3070 in the late spring/ summer.
If history repeats itself and it almost always does there will be a 2080 class card for about $350 in about 6 months.
I've been here long enough to know that, its almost a guarantee. I dont know why anyone would think any different.

It took Nvidia over 2.5yrs after the release of the 1080 for them to release the 2060 which are about equivalent in performance. The 2080 was released Sept of '18. So going by that release cadence, a 2080 class card for $350 should be here in May '21. What makes you think the release will be this year?

 

[Glo.]

Nvidia will announce the 3080 and 3070 in the late spring/ summer.

They won't. Stop hyping up their GTC.

 

[Glo.]

NVM.

 

[happy medium]

It took Nvidia over 2.5yrs after the release of the 1080 for them to release the 2060 which are about equivalent in performance. The 2080 was released Sept of '18. So going by that release cadence, a 2080 class card for $350 should be here in May '21. What makes you think the release will be this year?

Just because it happened one time .....
Nvidia does not release card every 2.5 years.
Thats the simple answer.

 

[happy medium]

It took Nvidia over 2.5yrs after the release of the 1080 for them to release the 2060 which are about equivalent in performance. The 2080 was released Sept of '18. So going by that release cadence, a 2080 class card for $350 should be here in May '21. What makes you think the release will be this year?

The xx60 cards usually are released 3 to 6 months after the xx70/80 series.
It depends on AMD, and like I said they are releasing a new line of cards top to bottom this year.
Do you think Nvidia can't release a 3060 the same time they release the 70 and 80 series?
Of course they can.
Will they, depends when AMD pulls out their mid range cards.

 

[beginner99]

Well Lisa Su said the entire Navi line up will be refreshed in the year 2020.

I think this is the main reason to wait if one can with the hope to get the same chip for lower price. I guess once big navi is launched they all refresh so they have all under the same series. Albeit I see a not so small change, that it will just be rebadges with minor performance/$ increase.

Not so sure about NV. All in all it's simply not a good time to buy a GPU if it's not absolutely needed (broken or completely inadequate) and hence waiting probably will give favorable results.

 

[fleshconsumed]

As I said before $300 5700 flashed to 5700XT BIOS is the best deal if you need card right now. If not then wait. I'll be waiting, but it's comical just how much I've waited already, I've skipped Fury, Vega, and Navi because they either ran hot or were too expensive for what they were. Fourth time is the charm with Navi refresh this year? LOL

 

[Kenmitch]

As I said before $300 5700 flashed to 5700XT BIOS is the best deal if you need card right now. If not then wait. I'll be waiting, but it's comical just how much I've waited already, I've skipped Fury, Vega, and Navi because they either ran hot or were too expensive for what they were. Fourth time is the charm with Navi refresh this year? LOL

Anybody picking up a 5700 with the intent of flashing to 5700XT bios should just try MorePowerTool 1st. Easy to revert if your cards not really worthy, no risk of bad flash, while it most likely will satisfy one's craving for the extra performance.

 

[Zstream]

The current lineup reminds me of Zen, and how they had 1k, 2k, and now the 3k series. The 2k series was interesting, but IMO not worth the jump.

I had/have a 480, and upgraded to a 2060. It just seems that the upgrade wasn’t that big of a jump, as I’ve always lowered settings.

Story telling mode off. I for one can’t wait for consoles as I can’t justify spending $300-500 each time. If big Navi comes out, and Amp comes out, even at the same time, I’m expected to spend another $300 to get what? A 25% upgrade or so? If the companies don’t start watching out, they will start bleeding customers. At some time, you will have too many inflection points, causing people to leave the gaming scene.

 

[Ranulf]

The xx60 cards usually are released 3 to 6 months after the xx70/80 series.
It depends on AMD, and like I said they are releasing a new line of cards top to bottom this year.
Do you think Nvidia can't release a 3060 the same time they release the 70 and 80 series?
Of course they can.
Will they, depends when AMD pulls out their mid range cards.

Given they refreshed polaris after only 7-9 months, I'm holding out to see what happens this year. If the price/perf had been better early on I might have picked up a 5700 or xt.