Xbox One streaming to Windows 10

[wilds]

Anyone get a chance to try this yet? After upgrading from 8.1 to 10 and updating the Xbox app through the Store, I tried it out. I'm using the Asus AC68U and am wireless on my Xbox and laptop.

Image quality is on par with Steam In Home Streaming, but on Xbox One, the overall experience feels more mature with less bugs. I noticed a very, very small delay between the displays (as is expected) and I didn't notice any dropped frames.

Having the easy plug and play streaming service is now going to have me playing on my laptop around the house now. If Mic support is eventually working the way it should, then I can see my Xbox One back in the living room acting as a DVR while the game is being played elsewhere.

If I didn't have a notebook, I'd be buying a cheap windows 8.1 netbook and use that for gaming.

 

[Alienwho]

Looking forward to trying this out. I bought ESO the other day and have been regretting getting it on XBO and not PS4 since I've been wanting to stream it to my Vita. But now if it works well streaming to my surface pro I'll be feeling good about it.

 

[Lil Frier]

I haven't been prompted to upgrade to W10 yet, and I'd probably wait on doing so anyway, just because I'm sure it's got plenty of bugs right now. That said, I'll try this when the time comes. I use my PC and Xbox One on my TV, so not having to switch inputs would be nice.

 

[Wingznut]

When you're streaming a game to PC, can someone else be watching TV through the Xbox?

 

[Lil Frier]

No, they said they tried, but couldn't make it happen. There is the potential it could change someday, but not yet.

 

[codyray10]

They need to figure that out ASAP. I don't see much benefit from it otherwise.

 

[Wingznut]

I might just divorce my Xbox One from TV watching...

 

[Alienwho]

Played some ESO on my surface today, streaming from the xb1. Very easy, smooth, no discernable lag. I do notice a slight decrease in quality, but nothing horrible. Running on wireless AC network. It has a button you can press to see streaming speed and it was showing 6Mb/s.

Very cool, will be using this feature frequently.

 

[Red Hawk]

Cool feature, useful for people who have things like laptops or tablets that would be nice to stream to without being tethered to their TV. I'm more interested in the possibility of streaming PC games to Xbox One, though.

 

[TeknoBug]

I played Forza 5 on my PC last night, surprisingly no input lag but the graphics quality was subpar.

 

[wilds]

So far my main complaint is the lack of multitasking on Xbox One and Windows 10 when streaming. Last night my Xbox One stopped appearing on the connect page on the Xbox app. After many troubleshooting steps, I gave up and called it a night. Today, the Xbox app is working as it should. Weird... On Windows 10 I have disabled Intel Turboboost, and have locked the GPU's clockspeeds at its lowest possible setting. Streaming requires barely any CPU and GPU power and I might as well keep the laptop fans idling (I do the same for Steam's streaming service).

I was able to monitor bandwidth usage while streaming and was peaking around ~11 mbps on the high setting. Low setting was using around ~3.5 mbps. I also did the test, but it doesn't provide many details.

I keep comparing this to Steam in home streaming, but Steam manages to use nearly 7x the bandwidth(!) with similar image quality and refresh rate. This is with my Desktop's wireless adapter to my laptop over wireless. Overall, I'm really impressed with Xbox streaming.

I want to try Ethernet to see if I can get higher image quality, but I still have tons of bandwidth available over WiFi that the Xbox One is not using. I'm wondering if the Xbox One's wireless adapter is at its limit for upstream. (?)

Here is a good page for improving streaming performance:
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox...-performance#522c7dd77fd241c9b64dcdafb00abc6b

 

[smackababy]

I would love to try this, however, Windows is "rolling out" the free upgrades and I haven't been chosen yet... You're kidding me. It is a download, MS. You don't need roll it out.

 

[wilds]

I would love to try this, however, Windows is "rolling out" the free upgrades and I haven't been chosen yet... You're kidding me. It is a download, MS. You don't need roll it out.

Kinda OT, but I'm glad to help
This is what I did to get my upgrade:

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/h...tart-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/

 

[Lil Frier]

So does the Xbox One streaming have to go over an Internet connection? I was just wondering if you could set up a local network, avoiding using Internet bandwidth to pull it off. It'd be cool if you could do this by just setting up something local between the PC and Xbox, especially if you could do it wired.

 

[smackababy]

So does the Xbox One streaming have to go over an Internet connection? I was just wondering if you could set up a local network, avoiding using Internet bandwidth to pull it off. It'd be cool if you could do this by just setting up something local between the PC and Xbox, especially if you could do it wired.

I would imagine you need to be connected via Xbox Live, but there shouldn't be any reason it wouldn't work. Without an internet connection, I can stream (certain... not MKVs) movies from my PC to my Xbox.

Kinda OT, but I'm glad to help
This is what I did to get my upgrade:

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/h...tart-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/

Thanks!

 

[SystemVipers]

I played Forza 5 on my PC last night, surprisingly no input lag but the graphics quality was subpar.

from what i have seen the console graphics have always been better, not sure if it's because it;s on the bigger tv but for games i love the console better then the PC

 

[Pariah]

Kinda OT, but I'm glad to help
This is what I did to get my upgrade:

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/h...tart-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/

If you reserved windows 10, and are seeing the "We're validating Windows 10 for you PC...etc" message, all you need to do is edit one registry key and then check for updates in the standard control panel to force the update.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...0/d695e827-9774-4e10-8972-df8d51a7bb51?auth=1

This comes straight from Microsoft. Worked fine for me, files had already been downloaded, and the upgrade was done in less than 15 minutes.

 

[nitromullet]

This definitely works.

I'm actually streaming over a 2.5GHz b/g network (backwards compatibility for my wife's laptop), and it's playable. Playing Halo single player there is a noticeable lag, but you do adjust to it a bit.

I doubt my connection would be usable to for something like CoD multiplayer, but it would probably work great for a slower paced game like Fallout.

I suggest setting this up, and then re-booting both the PC and Xbox. My setup was unusable initially, but I tried it again a day later after everything had been rebooted and it worked fine.

edit: oh yeah, you might have to update the Xbox app to get the option to Connect to your Xbox. To get the update you have the search for the app in the Store and apply the update through there. Apparently Windows Update doesn't update Modern apps.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I do notice a definite visual downgrade too. Suppose it's not terrible.

 

[nitromullet]

I do notice a definite visual downgrade too. Suppose it's not terrible.

Yeah, it does seem to be degraded somewhat. If you have physical access to the Xbox or a game worthy PC you'll definitely have a better overall experience.

Still looks better than anything I can play on my current PC setup with this Radeon HD 2400.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I didn't notice any input lag though over a gigabit wired network. I'm sure it's there but I couldn't tell. Probably if I tried a fighting game or something I'd notice.

 

[cmdrdredd]

sorry, double posted when I couldn't get through to the forum.

 

[nitromullet]

I actually have been experiencing intermittent issues with hitching/disconnecting. I can play fine for a while, but then it starts to hitch and ultimately disconnect. I probably need faster WiFi than b/g...

 

[darkswordsman17]

That does sound good. Plus it basically offers one of the positives of the Wii U setup (being able to play without taking up the TV where the console is likely plugged into) with hardware that people already have (and can adjust to what suits them, so you could stream to smaller and very portable tablets). Microsoft should release a Chromecast like dongle for cheap so that you don't even need the PC.

Quick question, do you just use the controller wirelessly connected to the Xbox, or do you plug it into the PC?

So far my main complaint is the lack of multitasking on Xbox One and Windows 10 when streaming. Last night my Xbox One stopped appearing on the connect page on the Xbox app. After many troubleshooting steps, I gave up and called it a night. Today, the Xbox app is working as it should. Weird... On Windows 10 I have disabled Intel Turboboost, and have locked the GPU's clockspeeds at its lowest possible setting. Streaming requires barely any CPU and GPU power and I might as well keep the laptop fans idling (I do the same for Steam's streaming service).

I was able to monitor bandwidth usage while streaming and was peaking around ~11 mbps on the high setting. Low setting was using around ~3.5 mbps. I also did the test, but it doesn't provide many details.

I keep comparing this to Steam in home streaming, but Steam manages to use nearly 7x the bandwidth(!) with similar image quality and refresh rate. This is with my Desktop's wireless adapter to my laptop over wireless. Overall, I'm really impressed with Xbox streaming.

I want to try Ethernet to see if I can get higher image quality, but I still have tons of bandwidth available over WiFi that the Xbox One is not using. I'm wondering if the Xbox One's wireless adapter is at its limit for upstream. (?)

Here is a good page for improving streaming performance:
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox...-performance#522c7dd77fd241c9b64dcdafb00abc6b

I'm guessing they're having the One encode it before streaming (it and the PS4 I believe have built-in encoding hardware on their APUs, its there to help with things like Twitch), whereas Steam probably isn't doing that too much (since they probably haven't targeted encoding hardware on PCs yet, meaning they'd have to use the CPU which is likely already being used for running the game so they're not going to want to bog it down with encoding).

And that's causing the visual quality reduction too (Gizmodo says it maxes out at streaming 720p, whereas to your TV it'll upscale to 1080p from a higher than 720p render resolution usually). And of course the varying bitrate.

 

[nitromullet]

Quick question, do you just use the controller wirelessly connected to the Xbox, or do you plug it into the PC?

You plug the controller into the PC. In my case, I'm actually using a wireless Xbox 360 controller with the PC via the wireless dongle. Either way, the controller is connected to the Win 10 PC, and not the Xbox directly.