Discussion Xbox next speculation

[jpiniero]

if microsoft is making a first party version of the series x2 then it makes zero business sense for third parties to make a PC version of the same

OEMs could offer different specs and different price points.

 

[marees]

Why would that be? If it's now a windows PC through and through, just let it be sold by other OEMs that also make windows PCs.

It's pretty much what they already did with the Surface line. They put up a bunch of target specs, developed the software plus some hardware designs and then allowed other OEMs to make identical devices.

it will be like what happened with the rog 'xbox' ally x

Microsoft scrapped their first party (arm based) surface handheld so that ASUS's product would be viable

you can't have both first party & 3rd party version of the same product. either this or that

 

[ToTTenTranz]

you can't have both first party & 3rd party version of the same product. either this or that

Why not?

 

[quikah]

This is silly, but there is an oddly thrown cloth covering some box on the desk of the Playground devs during the Developer Direct video (@~12.53). New devkit?

 

[marees]

This is silly, but there is an oddly thrown cloth covering some box on the desk of the Playground devs during the Developer Direct video (@~12.53). New devkit?

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RDNA 5 has now appeared in LLVM

so the hardware appears to be on track. it is just a combination of the memory situation & software (AMD drivers & Xbox-Windows software unification)

lets give a chance to Microsoft until end of this year — maybe something will be revealed before then !!

 

[MrMPFR]

Maybe a repeat of XSX.
Tease console in late 2026, release it a year later. They def have to at least tease it when it's 25th anniversary of Xbox.

 

[marees]

Maybe a repeat of XSX.
Tease console in late 2026, release it a year later. They def have to at least tease it when it's 25th anniversary of Xbox.

right.

no need to even announce price when teasing it

they can take a gamble that open AI will go bankrupt in early 2027 & memory prices come crashing down !!!

 

[marees]

This is silly, but there is an oddly thrown cloth covering some box on the desk of the Playground devs during the Developer Direct video (@~12.53). New devkit?

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more coverage

https://twitter.com/x/status/2014887696792223883

 

[marees]

PS6 delay could put the next Xbox console back in the game​

The next-gen of gaming could be a lot more interesting than the last, if the latest rumours are true

Microsoft might not even have its sights set on the PS6 as a rival at this time – Valve's new Steam Machine will release later in 2026, and that could be more of a direct competitor as things stand.

PS6 delay could put the next Xbox console back in the game

The next-gen of gaming could be a lot more interesting than the last, if the latest rumours are true

www.t3.com

also ps5 pro will get FSR 4
But Microsoft is stuck until it introduces RDNA 5 based hardware — such as Magnus / Medusa Premium etc.

 

[marees]

vote here

Talking Point: Will The Next Xbox Console Be Revealed In 2026?​

It IS the 25th anniversary of Xbox after all

• by Fraser Gilbert Tue, 10:05pm

 

[marees]

holiday 2027 launch says Jez

If the next Xbox is a PC, Microsoft needs to prove it can avoid Windows’ biggest problems​

Features
By Jez Corden published 5 hours ago
I've been using Windows almost daily for 30 years. I know my way around its idiosyncrasies and foibles. But is that what the average Xbox gamer wants to have to deal with?

I'm well aware of how frustrating it can be for casual PC users when things don't just work as they're supposed to. And Xbox and other consoles have always been about that "ease of use" aspect.

The next Xbox is still a fair bit away, dropping in late 2027 at the earliest, according to my most recent information. I received details about the next-gen Xbox around the same time I exclusively reported on Project Kennan, now known as the Xbox Ally.

Microsoft reiterated its commitment to first-party Xbox hardware this summer, revealing a multi-year partnership with AMD, while touting full compatibility with the current Xbox console ecosystem library. My sources detailed to me how the next Xbox is essentially going to be a full Windows PC, albeit with a TV and controller-first interface (by default), complete with the ability to install and run third-party stores like Steam, GOG, and Epic.

Can Microsoft truly deliver a polished, console-like Windows experience in time for the next-gen Xbox's launch?

The Xbox Full Screen Experience (often shortened to Xbox FSE) is a Windows 11 setting that allows apps to essentially take over the operating system's user experience. It turns the Xbox app into the default interface layer, disabling unnecessary Windows tasks to free up RAM and improve controller-first navigation.

It's far, far from perfect, though.

For Xbox users upgrading from their extremely polished Xbox Series X|S, I worry that an Xbox-ified Windows experience will feel like an epic step down if Microsoft isn't careful.

Windows Update broke the Xbox Ally last week — will that happen to the next-gen Xbox as well?​

an update to Windows 11 broke the Xbox Ally. Power settings and other ASUS Xbox Ally systems were actively becoming blocked by Windows' own security layers, preventing users from adjusting key features of the device.

The mission ahead for Windows and Xbox is not to be underestimated​

Performance is a big ongoing problem for me, with the interface getting stuck and struggling to perform smoothly — particularly after closing games or on the initial launch. It's also lacking a lot of the integrations that the Xbox Series X|S consoles have, like embedded Discord, easy clip and screenshot sharing and uploading, library sorting and management, and app installation and access without grabbing a mouse and using the desktop environment. It's also a bit of a pain to set up with a TV, and can be a chore to tweak and manage with a controller.

I'm not sure if Microsoft is still committed to the late 2027 timeline for the next-gen Xbox, but if it is, you have to wonder if that's enough time to get all the chips lined up.

Historically, Windows is a productivity-first operating system, and Xbox is a gaming-first operating system. The priorities of the Windows team aren't necessarily the same as the Xbox team's priorities. But that needs to change.

https://www.windowscentral.com/gami...trengths-will-it-come-with-its-weaknesses-too

 

[marees]

paywalled.

if you have access then could be an interesting read

What's Next for Xbox? ⭐

Playing games on Windows PCs recently has provided an interesting peek at the future of Xbox as a platform. It's mostly good news.

www.thurrott.com

 

[marees]

Rumour: New Xbox Console Won't Release Until At Least Late 2027, Could Be Delayed Further​

"I'm not sure if Microsoft is still committed to the late 2027 timeline"

• by Fraser Gilbert 4 hours ago

in his latest report for Windows Central about the Xbox Full-Screen Experience and how it'll need to iron out some weaknesses over the next couple of years, Jez mentions that late 2027 is the earliest release window for the next Xbox console as things stand.

"The next Xbox is a full Windows PC, that much we know. What we know less is exactly how Microsoft is going to go about it. The next Xbox is still a fair bit away, dropping in late 2027 at the earliest, according to my most recent information. I received details about the next-gen Xbox around the same time I exclusively reported on Project Kennan, now known as the Xbox Ally."
"I'm not sure if Microsoft is still committed to the late 2027 timeline for the next-gen Xbox, but if it is, you have to wonder if that's enough time to get all the chips lined up."

This time last week, we actually polled the Pure Xbox community on when you thought the next Xbox console might be announced, and 24% (the majority vote) felt it would be revealed in 2026 with a release in 2027. 21% of voters suggested it was simply too early for an announcement in 2026, while 20% thought it'd be announced but not released until 2028 or later.

You can still vote in that poll down below if you haven't already:

Rumour: New Xbox Console Won't Release Until At Least Late 2027, Could Be Delayed Further

"I'm not sure if Microsoft is still committed to the late 2027 timeline"

www.purexbox.com

 

[marees]

Rumour: New Xbox Console Won't Release Until At Least Late 2027, Could Be Delayed Further​

"I'm not sure if Microsoft is still committed to the late 2027 timeline"

• by Fraser Gilbert 4 hours ago

in his latest report for Windows Central about the Xbox Full-Screen Experience and how it'll need to iron out some weaknesses over the next couple of years, Jez mentions that late 2027 is the earliest release window for the next Xbox console as things stand.


This time last week, we actually polled the Pure Xbox community on when you thought the next Xbox console might be announced, and 24% (the majority vote) felt it would be revealed in 2026 with a release in 2027. 21% of voters suggested it was simply too early for an announcement in 2026, while 20% thought it'd be announced but not released until 2028 or later.

You can still vote in that poll down below if you haven't already:

Rumour: New Xbox Console Won't Release Until At Least Late 2027, Could Be Delayed Further

"I'm not sure if Microsoft is still committed to the late 2027 timeline"

www.purexbox.com

AMD signals 2027 launch window for next-gen Xbox console​

AMD CEO confirms development progressing for Microsoft's next Xbox featuring custom chips

by The Tech Buzz
PUBLISHED: Wed, Feb 4, 2026, 12:13 AM UTC | UPDATED: Wed, Feb 4, 2026, 1:10 AM UTC

• AMD CEO Lisa Su says development of Microsoft's next-gen Xbox is "progressing well to support a launch in 2027" during today's earnings call
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  The console will use custom AMD semi-custom SoC chips as part of a multi-year partnership announced in 2025
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  Microsoft has teased the device as a "premium, high-end" hybrid console-PC experience, diverging from traditional console cycles
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  Timeline accelerates from leaked 2028 plans, signaling Microsoft's push to stay competitive in evolving gaming hardware market

https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/amd-signals-2027-launch-window-for-next-gen-xbox-console

AMD just gave the gaming world its first real glimpse at when Microsoft might launch its next Xbox. During today's quarterly earnings call, AMD CEO Lisa Su casually dropped what could be the most significant console news of the year - development of Microsoft's next-generation Xbox is "progressing well to support a launch in 2027."

The comment, brief as it was, carries weight. AMD isn't just a supplier here - the company entered into what Microsoft described as a "strategic multi-year partnership" last year to co-engineer silicon across Microsoft's entire gaming hardware portfolio. That includes not just the living room console but also handheld devices and the infrastructure powering Xbox Cloud Gaming servers. When your chip partner says they're ready for 2027, it suggests the timeline is more than aspirational.

Microsoft hasn't officially committed to a 2027 launch date, but the pieces are falling into place. The company confirmed its next-gen Xbox partnership with AMD in 2025, breaking from the Intel-AMD hybrid approach that powered previous generations. This time, AMD is handling both the CPU and GPU in a custom system-on-chip design - a move that should give Microsoft tighter integration and potentially better performance-per-watt.

The cloud gaming angle adds another dimension. Microsoft's partnership with AMD explicitly includes building next-generation Xbox Cloud Gaming servers, suggesting the 2027 hardware will be designed from the ground up for both local and streaming play. That could give Microsoft an edge in reaching players who don't want to buy a console but still want access to high-end gaming experiences.

AMD's 2027 timeline confirmation gives the gaming industry its first concrete marker for the next console generation. Whether Microsoft actually hits that window depends on factors beyond chip readiness - software maturity, competitive positioning, and market conditions will all play roles. But with AMD publicly stating it's on track and Microsoft's executive team already talking up the vision, 2027 is looking increasingly likely for when gamers will get their hands on whatever Microsoft's hybrid console-PC vision ultimately becomes. The real question now isn't when, but what exactly Microsoft will deliver and whether it can execute on its premium positioning in a market that's proven resistant to high-priced gaming hardware.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

AMD CEO Lisa Su says development of Microsoft's next-gen Xbox is "progressing well to support a launch in 2027" during today's earnings call

Well just because the chip will be ready and mass produced in 2027, it doesn't mean the console will release in that year.

Just look at the Switch 2's T239. Nintendo sat on it for like 3 years before releasing the damn thing.

 

[marees]

Well just because the chip will be ready and mass produced in 2027, it doesn't mean the console will release in that year.

Just look at the Switch 2's T239. Nintendo sat on it for like 3 years before releasing the damn thing.

well the LLVM entries have already started for RDNA 5

But you are right. Microsoft could sit on the inventory like Nintendo

question: did samsung or nvidia announce a timeline in advance for the switch 2 ???

 

[marees]

how does he know this ??

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018989888625140001

 

[ToTTenTranz]

how does he know this ??

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018989888625140001

Well it shouldn't be. Magnus is supposedly the codename for the chip, not the platform.

Same as Series X platform being codename Scarlett, but the chip being Arden as per AMD's github leak.

 

[marees]

Well it shouldn't be. Magnus is supposedly the codename for the chip, not the platform.

Same as Series X platform being codename Scarlett, but the chip being Arden as per AMD's github leak.

but how does he know the codename used by Microsoft (& what is it ? )

 

[ToTTenTranz]

but how does he know the codename used by Microsoft (& what is it ? )

Either someone told him or he's lying 🤷‍♂️

 

[marees]

Here’s Why You Should Care About the Next-Gen Xbox Launch​

It's going to make a bad time for the gaming industry even worse if Xbox can't pull off a win.
By Kyle BarrPublished February 4, 2026


The difficulty will be getting gamers excited for new gaming hardware, especially if it costs anything more than the current generation of consoles. More than five years after launch, the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X cost more, not less, due to last year’s tariffs. A gaming-ready PC is now enormously expensive due to the ongoing memory shortage. We still don’t know the price of the Steam Machine, but based on Valve’s statements to this point, it likely won’t be cheap.

Here's Why You Should Care About the Next-Gen Xbox Launch

It's going to make a bad time for the gaming industry even worse if Xbox can't pull off a win.

gizmodo.com

 

[marees]

Here’s Why You Should Care About the Next-Gen Xbox Launch​

It's going to make a bad time for the gaming industry even worse if Xbox can't pull off a win.
By Kyle BarrPublished February 4, 2026


The difficulty will be getting gamers excited for new gaming hardware, especially if it costs anything more than the current generation of consoles. More than five years after launch, the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X cost more, not less, due to last year’s tariffs. A gaming-ready PC is now enormously expensive due to the ongoing memory shortage. We still don’t know the price of the Steam Machine, but based on Valve’s statements to this point, it likely won’t be cheap.

Here's Why You Should Care About the Next-Gen Xbox Launch

It's going to make a bad time for the gaming industry even worse if Xbox can't pull off a win.

gizmodo.com

imo, the Magnus will launch in 2028 (due to inflated ram & storage in 2027), but cost $899 or less — despite Amy Hood & Satya Nadella's 30% profit margin mandate

 

[ToTTenTranz]

It's going to make a bad time for the gaming industry even worse if Xbox can't pull off a win.

Gizmodo coming up with these bland statements is pure insanity and shilling that aren't doing Xbox any favors.

The Xbox One didn't sell that bad, it sold 60 million consoles despite the terrible launch and the base console being unable to reach the same IQ and performance as the PS4. This is because it actually had a borderline decent 1st party launch lineup with Forza, Ryse, Dead Rising, then Sunset Overdrive, then Halo 5 a year later, etc.

The Xbox Series are on their way to selling half the numbers of Xbox One, despite having both the more powerful console and the cheaper one at launch. And they didn't have a terrible launch, and they had the best (money-burning) online service on top of that. The Series consoles failed because 1st party was terrible.


The Series' failure has nothing to do with "gamers" being somehow spoiled or too demanding, and after >10 years it's not related to Don Mattrick (for f's sake..). And it's not because they lost the most important generation a decade prior. It's 99% related to Phil Spencer's awful management of Microsoft's 1st party developers. That's it. That's why the Series consoles collapsed, and how the next-gen can ever hope to gain some momentum.

Next gen needs a decent launch lineup with rejuvenated Gears of War, Halo, Forza, Fable (remastered?), Age of Empires, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls VI, new Wolfenstein, etc. These games need to launch on time and they need to be good. Sarah Bond needs to keep breathing down gamedev directors' necks every day to make sure they have their priorities right, bad ideas are killed quickly and they can deliver on time. That's really all there is to it.

Microsoft keeps paying the bill for just signing a blanc cheque to dev directors and then asking how things are 3 years later, for abusing the amount of subcontractors and for making dev directors stall for public funding opportunities. They throw around crazy ammounts of money for inorganic growth, gobbling up dev houses and whole publishers but then act like mediocre small business owners with no budget for compromises.



And then they pay Gizmodo and the likes for these fluff pieces trying to educate gamers how they must buy their next console or else. People aren't going to send money towards Microsoft (of all places) out of pity and market responsibility. This is insane.

 

[marees]

I LIKE THIS


On AMD’s last earnings call, CEO Lisa Su even just said their next-gen Xbox chip will be ready for 2027, and I think Microsoft will be under more pressure to launch earlier than later. The loser of each console generation is always under more pressure to pull the trigger on the starting pistol for the next one, and Microsoft needs to launch something to give the industry a sign of where their hardware business is going.

Xbox hardware sales and revenue have been in a tailspin for a while now. Just like during the transition from the original Xbox to the Xbox 360, they have less to lose by trying to reshuffle the deck (as much as it can be reshuffled in today’s era of locked-in back catalogs).

At this point, we just about know that the next Xbox will be a PC with an Xbox user interface layer on top. I don’t know if it’ll actually work, but it’s something that could get people talking and set Microsoft apart from Sony. Having access to alternate storefronts like Epic and Steam, not to mention the totality of PC software, gives Microsoft a chance to say “this is what you can do on Xbox that you can’t do on PlayStation.”

Really, though, the next Xbox is probably just one vehicle for what’s actually being sold here — AMD’s next gaming chip platform. Xbox, PS6, that rumored PlayStation handheld, future pre-built PCs, and maybe even the Steam Deck 2 are mostly just different labels to sell the same thing, RDNA 5.

AMD needs that console money. A while back they straight-up admitted that the PS4 saved the company. In the same earnings release where they talked about the next Xbox, they also said they might see big revenue drops soon based on sales of semi-custom SoCs, which includes consoles. Oh, and if RDNA5 desktop GPUs arrive in 2027 and end up being the big AMD comeback everybody is expecting, Nvidia might feel compelled to go ahead with RTX 60 that same year.

Why Next-Gen PlayStation and Xbox Can Still Happen in 2027

Industry experts are saying the memory crisis that’s basically tripling RAM prices is gonna last through 2026 or maybe even into 2028, so everybody’s predicting that Sony and Microsoft …

noplatform.wordpress.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019971848851632543

 

[marees]

EXCLUSIVE: New details on Xbox's next-gen console(s) — and Microsoft's most ambitious gaming plans ever​

News
By Jez Corden published 38 minutes ago
From AMD's claims of a 2027 Xbox, to the idea of a plurality of Xbox Gen-10 consoles — lets sift through some fresh details.

Xbox likely won't expect the kinds of volumes seen by previous generations with its first-party offering, but it doesn't need to. You can think of the next-gen Xbox similarly to how Microsoft handles Surface — a curated boutique experience in a wider Xbox hardware ecosystem. The software is the platform, and software ubiquity is the goal. But that isn't to say Microsoft is abandoning its own hand in the hardware ecosystem. In fact, it's expanding it, arguably more aggressively than ever.

Opening up Xbox to OEMs and the wider Windows ecosystem should help Xbox and its partners deliver more curated, tailor-made experiences for specific markets, across different types of users, form factors, and price points. Meeting players where they are is now the firm's primary aim, both in terms of software, but also in terms of use case scenario. In the future, you can expect a variety of Xbox devices of all shapes and sizes, from an array of traditional Microsoft OEM PC partners.

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/exclusive-the-next-gen-xbox-2027-locked-in-most-ambitious