i think it's best to wait and see. no one still yet knows the full capabilities of the x360. i was reading around some of those links mentioned thruout this forum and even the developers of x360 games havent been given actual finalized 360's to work with, have had to use multiple pc's hooked up to work with. what's obvious is that the 360 isn't even really finalized and in the above link the MS dude said MS were still trying to not finalize just yet.
basically all the game demos shown for the 360 were very raw works in progress footage, not what the final product will look like. You can see it in some of the clips where there are literally cinematic (nextgen) looking backdrops and xbox1 looking action, then xbox1 looking backdrops with x360 characters.
and ps3's game demos were all "fake" but they never actually said they are actual in game demos. they said "THIS is what we aim to achieve in in-game graphics, THIS is what it WOULD look like" and the only actual in-game demo was this brief piece where some robots are fighting on some bridge. and you can even see in that how still sketchy it was, only a rough draft as of now of whats to come, you could see that theyre cooking up something big.
also....as someone at ign said.....the best way to actually tell which system is better/faster is by running the same game on both systems, like madden next-gen. thats when you'll tell.
ps3's demos kinda scared alot of ppl about x360's demos shown as some crap thing, a joke. Some are thinking that even the ps3 wont be able to pull off cinematic effects and that in the end both the ps3 and x360 will only be slightly better than last gen. but by what both corps are planning, this wont be the case.
and by rumors of the revolution, when that comes out in later 2006, it will be even more powerful than the other systems, tho at a cheaper cost price.
but what i personally guess, based on last gen wars, this will happen......nintendo's revolution wont be enough to compete, theyll continue shooting themselves in the foot with games like nintendogs and electroplankton and rehashing mario in many forms, maintaining its very fun kind of child-like philosophy. and will be far behind in console sales than the other two.
from listening to all 3 corps in their presentations.....nintendo's was very funny, fun, showing theyd be a very cool company to work for, yet still a bit too tentative to encompass a more mature gaming audience.
meanwhile sony's was highly professional and technical, no fun, and shows they really take making technology seriously.
meanwhile MS's was kind of inbetween, both fun yet professional without all the tech mumbo-jumbo.
bill gates is so obsessed with monopolizing industries that he'd stop at nothing to ensure his xbox franchize prevails.
one journalist says how it usually takes MS 3 goes at something before dominating the market (re netscape vs IE war). and reckons the same will happen here. the fans of sony and its past success and tech-achievements will keep sony no1 in this next gen, but the market ratio would be alot closer. and that if theres a x4 vs ps4 war later, that being MS's third go at it, finally by then MS will have toppled Sony, esp with sony's dropping profits.
i think history will repeat in many ways....nintendo wont really change from its less-mature gaming stance even tho their revolution will be highly impressive it will still suffer, sony and ms will be the ones truly pushing the boundaries of next-gen graphics.
gamecube was a far better system than ps2, tho less powerful, unable to play dvd's, and didnt have online play. ps2 wasnt at first as good as its later ps2 models, forever striving for perfection. and ms's was much more powerful but came in too late to threaten sony.
sony promised things in the ps2 that never eventuated. and with all of xbox's power, hardly any developers actually made full use of it. bcos the money was always with sony's system it made more sense for them to develop games easily port-able to both ps2 and xbox.
the same thing will happen this time. x360 and ps3 will ultimately end up being compatible with blu-ray and hd-dvd, and while x360 will be more powerful/faster in some areas, the ps3 will be more powerful/faster in other areas (as that MS dude admitted)....which will mean that in the end, all the game developers will end up having similar systems to develop for. this time however, what we'll find is that the early games for x360 and ps3 wont be as developed for next-gen as games released further in 2006 and beyond. and as both systems will now be as powerful as each other, developers can create a game that will look as good on x360 as it will on ps3. previously, only the xbox had more power than the ps2 and with ps2's better selling of consoles, they obviously made less use of xbox's power. but this time that wont happen at least.
the problem is gonna be the costs for both the consoles and the games.
cos these next gen consoles are total entertainment packages many times faster than todays pc's, either the prices of these consoles is gonna be in the $1,000-2,000 price range....or, they are worth only 500-700 dollars each which will end up forcing the standard price of current and future pc's down by a lot. Even apple will have to worry and lower its prices for its household computers.
basically all the game demos shown for the 360 were very raw works in progress footage, not what the final product will look like. You can see it in some of the clips where there are literally cinematic (nextgen) looking backdrops and xbox1 looking action, then xbox1 looking backdrops with x360 characters.
and ps3's game demos were all "fake" but they never actually said they are actual in game demos. they said "THIS is what we aim to achieve in in-game graphics, THIS is what it WOULD look like" and the only actual in-game demo was this brief piece where some robots are fighting on some bridge. and you can even see in that how still sketchy it was, only a rough draft as of now of whats to come, you could see that theyre cooking up something big.
also....as someone at ign said.....the best way to actually tell which system is better/faster is by running the same game on both systems, like madden next-gen. thats when you'll tell.
ps3's demos kinda scared alot of ppl about x360's demos shown as some crap thing, a joke. Some are thinking that even the ps3 wont be able to pull off cinematic effects and that in the end both the ps3 and x360 will only be slightly better than last gen. but by what both corps are planning, this wont be the case.
and by rumors of the revolution, when that comes out in later 2006, it will be even more powerful than the other systems, tho at a cheaper cost price.
but what i personally guess, based on last gen wars, this will happen......nintendo's revolution wont be enough to compete, theyll continue shooting themselves in the foot with games like nintendogs and electroplankton and rehashing mario in many forms, maintaining its very fun kind of child-like philosophy. and will be far behind in console sales than the other two.
from listening to all 3 corps in their presentations.....nintendo's was very funny, fun, showing theyd be a very cool company to work for, yet still a bit too tentative to encompass a more mature gaming audience.
meanwhile sony's was highly professional and technical, no fun, and shows they really take making technology seriously.
meanwhile MS's was kind of inbetween, both fun yet professional without all the tech mumbo-jumbo.
bill gates is so obsessed with monopolizing industries that he'd stop at nothing to ensure his xbox franchize prevails.
one journalist says how it usually takes MS 3 goes at something before dominating the market (re netscape vs IE war). and reckons the same will happen here. the fans of sony and its past success and tech-achievements will keep sony no1 in this next gen, but the market ratio would be alot closer. and that if theres a x4 vs ps4 war later, that being MS's third go at it, finally by then MS will have toppled Sony, esp with sony's dropping profits.
i think history will repeat in many ways....nintendo wont really change from its less-mature gaming stance even tho their revolution will be highly impressive it will still suffer, sony and ms will be the ones truly pushing the boundaries of next-gen graphics.
gamecube was a far better system than ps2, tho less powerful, unable to play dvd's, and didnt have online play. ps2 wasnt at first as good as its later ps2 models, forever striving for perfection. and ms's was much more powerful but came in too late to threaten sony.
sony promised things in the ps2 that never eventuated. and with all of xbox's power, hardly any developers actually made full use of it. bcos the money was always with sony's system it made more sense for them to develop games easily port-able to both ps2 and xbox.
the same thing will happen this time. x360 and ps3 will ultimately end up being compatible with blu-ray and hd-dvd, and while x360 will be more powerful/faster in some areas, the ps3 will be more powerful/faster in other areas (as that MS dude admitted)....which will mean that in the end, all the game developers will end up having similar systems to develop for. this time however, what we'll find is that the early games for x360 and ps3 wont be as developed for next-gen as games released further in 2006 and beyond. and as both systems will now be as powerful as each other, developers can create a game that will look as good on x360 as it will on ps3. previously, only the xbox had more power than the ps2 and with ps2's better selling of consoles, they obviously made less use of xbox's power. but this time that wont happen at least.
the problem is gonna be the costs for both the consoles and the games.
cos these next gen consoles are total entertainment packages many times faster than todays pc's, either the prices of these consoles is gonna be in the $1,000-2,000 price range....or, they are worth only 500-700 dollars each which will end up forcing the standard price of current and future pc's down by a lot. Even apple will have to worry and lower its prices for its household computers.
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