XBOX 360 Backward Compatability finalized

[funboy6942]

It is important to me for the fact I dont need to have a ps, ps2, ps3, xbox, and xb360 all hooked up. Works better if I have one machine and it does it all.

And I didnt know till now that the ps3 wasnt 100% but they are saying right now extreamly little will not play out of the 8000 titles they have for the ps2. I like dem odds IMO

 

[Staples]

They are mostly crappy games but I am giving MS the benefit of the doubt this time, something I so rarely do.

And Wingznut, I doubt we will ever see full backwards compatibility.


And for people who have no caught on, you see that very few online playable games are on this list. I think emulating the Live interfaces is the hardest part and that is why I doubt we will ever see full BC. But unfortunately, most the games I still play are online play.

 

[Staples]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
The 360 is a little more intriguing because of the graphics improvements for the Xbox games. Seeing Halo 2 in high resolution will be sweet. But I imagine once the novelty quickly wears off, I'll go right back to the newest generation gaming.

You are smarter than 99% of the people who post at that other forum that you post at. The one where I have found myself beating down fanboys for the last five years. So I expect that you will undertand this. The Xbox games that can be played on X2 are reported to scale to higher resolution however they are still rendered at 480p. Sure the picture may be blown up but the detail will be roughly the same. The only difference being that the X2 will be doing the scaling so if you have a crappy scaler in your TV, then the game should look slightly better.

 

[Rickten]

whats most interesting about the whole BC issue is MS stated you can download specific emulators for certain games that aren't included and burn to CDR or DVDR and then put it in the xbox360 and it will run the code from the disc. Seems like a loop hole waiting to happen to me.

edit: staples you are correct. people playing on 720p screens are already getting the games scaled. Now only time will tell if the scaler in the emulation software or the scaler in your tv does a better job but is it really going to be a huge margin between the two? not likely.

this is the same issue I see with people buying sub 200 dollar progressive scan dvd players. Most likely your tv may deinterlace and scale better than a sub 200 dollar dvd player made my apex. Its called marketing though and the consumer usually doesn't know any better.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Staples
You are smarter than 99% of the people who post at that other forum that you post at.

Thanks, but... Umm... That's not really saying a whole lot.

Do you go by Staples over there, too?

 

[secretanchitman]

since halo and halo 2 are already in there, im sure 99.9% of people will be happy.

unless youre the geek who wants to hack the 360 with mechassault and install some sort of linux on it.

i wonder if the 360 will upconvert the original xbox games besides halo and halo 2...?

 

[Inappropriate4AT]

No love for any of my fighters.

 

[Staples]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Staples
You are smarter than 99% of the people who post at that other forum that you post at.

Thanks, but... Umm... That's not really saying a whole lot.

Do you go by Staples over there, too?

I alternate accounts. I currently use my first account "Alex." (which is probably the top 3 oldest active accounts there) I have a Staples account but I use the oldwhen I get temp banned. I am sure my two weeks was up months ago but I just use whatever account I am logged into. Although the fanboys don't know, they know either "poster" as an objective fellow. Really, it is just common sense. I don't settle for mediocrity but 90% of the posters will.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

No Deus Ex 2?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: funboy42
Considering I already own a xbox and they are not making it 100% backwards has made me jump ship and going for a Playstation 3.

NO I am not a fanboy BUT I am out for most of my money. Considering most games out except for the ones directly made for the console itself like Halo the rest of the games that are for cross consoles should look identical since both are high end gaming machines. But the deciding factor was again Xbox 360 is NOT 100 backwards but PS3 is for ps and ps2 games. Plus PS2 games there are alot of them and will come way down in price making sure I will always have something to game be it new or old and not have to worry if it will play or not.

This way for me I have my old xbox to play all of my games and the PS3 to play the new games and all of the older ps2 ones as well.

If xbox was 100% backwards I would of bought it but since it is not and I will still have to keep my old xbox hooked up to play some of them I may as well go ps3.

MS has stated that the entire Xbox library will be patched to be BC.

Even still... BC's ACTUAL importance to people is really a mystery to me.

I had a PS1 when I got my PS2. I never once cared to play last generation's game.
And I can't imagine a single PS2 game that I'm going to want to play, once I get my hands on a PS3 and its games.

The 360 is a little more intriguing because of the graphics improvements for the Xbox games. Seeing Halo 2 in high resolution will be sweet. But I imagine once the novelty quickly wears off, I'll go right back to the newest generation gaming.

yea pretty much. backwards compatibility is better in theory than practice. i now have acess to nes/snes/n64 emulators and rom library that would made my mind explode if i had it as a child. yet i dont touch it ever. just once to test to see if it worked

that being said sony are scumbags that don't deserve your money. http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...?catid=38&threadid=1732082&STARTPAGE=2

 

[deepred98]

uh i thought xbox 360 was fully compatible like just slide in an xbox game and bam

this sucks i don't want to use emulators

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Originally posted by: yllus
I actually don't give a damn about backwards compatibility - I move onwards and upwards in games, never back, but it's a disappointing list.

That's a shame. You're going to inevitably miss out on some excellent games that way. Unless you judge a game's value by its graphics, that is.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=h2anniversary

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
i wonder if the 360 will upconvert the original xbox games besides halo and halo 2...?

Yes, all games will be 720p (or 1080i) and have FSAA.

Originally posted by: deepred98
uh i thought xbox 360 was fully compatible like just slide in an xbox game and bam

this sucks i don't want to use emulators

It's a game patch... You don't have to run a separate program. So, there's really no downside.

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: CHfan4ever
Lots of Recent EA games not on that list, i hope they will fix that soon, i wanna play my nhl 06!!!

I bet EA begs microsoft long and hard not to support any of their games in 360

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania

Originally posted by: yllus
I actually don't give a damn about backwards compatibility - I move onwards and upwards in games, never back, but it's a disappointing list.

That's a shame. You're going to inevitably miss out on some excellent games that way. Unless you judge a game's value by its graphics, that is.

Why? If they already own the previous systems or can buy them fairly easily, then how will they miss out. Not only that, but emulators keep getting better and with the recent trends of bringing back old games over and over again (*cough* Nintendo *cough*), then I don't see how you'll have to worry.

Backwards compatibility is an overblown feature. Its nice, but has never been a determining factor in me buying a console.

I understand not wanting to have 15 different consoles out to play them, but how often do you really go back and play old games. There are some people who do so regularly but I'd say its relatively few compared to the total market. Considering the headaches and problems involved with getting BC, I wouldn't blame a console maker to not have it.

I'm glad that they're moving to emulators, as they can more easily be updated. Not only that, but instead of needing to put hardware from the previous gen (like the PS2 needed originally), it makes the console cheaper overall.

For me, playing an old game is about the nostalgia, and I really only get it when I'm playing it on the original console as it was originally made. There's just something about actually playing NES games on a NES that emulation can't touch.

 

[mrrman]

gonna have to see how the modchips will work and maybe all this software crap will not be needed

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: mrrman
gonna have to see how the modchips will work and maybe all this software crap will not be needed

What "software crap"??? You put Halo 2 in your 360, it connects to Xbox Live and downloads the patch (will take just a minute) and then play the game. The next time you want to play, you just put the game in and play it. What's the big deal???

And actually... Because of the "software crap", you get higher resolution and FSAA.

 

[0roo0roo]

yup, and finally enough resolution to actually pull off fps/racing games or whatever split screen. normal sd tv's trying to do that just leave u with way too little detail. just a fuzzy formless mess for anything not up close.