The main thing I see is the clock speed is hardly improved for all that uber-cooling...the X800XT is at 500 mhz, the PE is at 520mhz but is non-existent, but this thing with its two-slow blower only manages a mere 20 mhz above XTPE. But of course the real clencher is that it's PCI-E only, which means the value of this launch is practically nil, as an AGP XT PE equivalent is still rare if not impossible to find. Unless they've already made these x850's SLI compatible, this launch is just an answer to a question no one asked.