X1950pro AGP - FEAR

[aircool]

My system

-Pentium 4 'A' 2800 oc'ed to 3614mhz
-ASUS P4C800-E DELUXE
-Ram - 1.5gb
-HDD 200gb in total
- X1950pro AGP
-500W PSU 2x 12v of 18a each

Most games , mainly fear have bad performance, any settings low or high i still get bad fps, i play on lowest settings as its just about playable.

Please help, im open to suggestions

 

[lavaheadache]

What resolution you trying to play at? As long as you stay at 1280X1024 you should be able to play most games with very high settings

 

[aircool]

1280x960...

1280x1024 does go well on my monitor

 

[lavaheadache]

hmmm, there must be something up cause you should be rocking at that resolution. Did you use driver cleaner before you installed?

 

[aircool]

Yes i did use DC, BTW 3.6ghz wasnt that "safe" im at 3.4ghz now.

Thanks for your time so far though

 

[lavaheadache]

what OS are you using?

 

[aircool]

Xp home edition + sp2, DX9 all uptodate

 

[MrK6]

What specifically do you mean by "bad FPS"? Is it a low average, surging/sinking, glitchy? Be aware that FEAR is a pretty CPU intensive game, that 2.8GHz P4A (are you sure its not a B with the 533FSB?) might not be cutting it. What's your FSB at (P4 A processors had a 400FSB, overclocked, yours should be at ~484)?

 

[aircool]

Or an E, although some apps show it as a 'A'.

 

[apoppin]

i guess i was in the *wrong* thread

install Cats 7.1 and CCC
... reinstall FEAR with 1.08
... run 3DMark05 and '06
... run FEAR at recommended settings [SS off] and 'test' them ... ideal is ZERO fps below 25 ... and try 10x7 resolution also with the test ...

try other games

and maybe lower your CPU OC --just one notch so the temps drop a bit

what did you have before you x1950p? ... if 'nvidia', did you remove all the drivers using Driver Cleaner?

 

[aircool]

ah, ive got and installed 7.2s and CCC.

Are 7.2s that bad then?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: aircool
ah, ive got and installed 7.2s and CCC.

Are 7.2s that bad then?

i heard some 'issues' with the CCC awhile back ... don't know any update ... i stayed with 7.1

what are your CPU temps? ... immediately on exiting FEAR

you might have missed my "edit"

... reinstall FEAR with 1.08
*IF you are installing from CD, use only ONE drive*
... run 3DMark05 and '06
... run FEAR at recommended settings [SS off] and 'test' them ... ideal is ZERO fps below 25 ... and try 10x7 resolution also with the test ...

try other games

and maybe lower your CPU OC --just one notch so the temps drop a bit

what did you have before you x1950p? ... if 'nvidia', did you remove all the drivers using Driver Cleaner?

 

[aircool]

Cpu temps are below 50 degres C at 3.4ghz.

Right here the auto-detec settings and tested.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o63/aircoolguru/1settings2.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o63/aircoolguru/1settings.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o63/aircoolguru/1high.jpg

3Dmark05 next

 

[aircool]

3dmark05

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resul....jsp?projectType=12&XLID=0&UID=8540869

 

[apoppin]

according to what you are showing me it is NOT running badly

of course, it will be slower at 12x10 than 10x7 ... some of the FPS probably DO drop below 25

what is *bad* to you?

describe in detail

and if you are at 7,500 in 3dMark05 everything is within 'range'


the *only* thing i can now think of is that somehow Soft Shadows *are* enabled ... or perhaps you are *forcing* AA or AF in the CP
-OR you have a bad install ... try ReInstalling FEAR using *one* drive.

*EDIT* actually, 7200 is LOW ... i got 8,000 with my 2.80c ocd to 3.31Ghz

did you use driver cleaner? before installing x1950p [assuming yoo had nvidia, before]

 

[aircool]

i reformatted when i changed from my nvidia 6600.

AA and AF are application controlled.

Bad install, highly unlikely as the shadows dont look like the softshadows (i tested those to see what they looked like )

Yes i used driver cleaner.

It lags rouond corners, i was hoping for at least 35fps min and constant, especailly when playing online.

How did u get 8k with that?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: aircool
i reformatted when i changed from my nvidia 6600.

AA and AF are application controlled.

Bad install, highly unlikely as the shadows dont look like the softshadows (i tested those to see what they looked like )

Yes i used driver cleaner.

It lags rouond corners, i was hoping for at least 35fps min and constant, especailly when playing online.

How did u get 8k with that?

i see the *problem* quite clearly ... now

your *expectations* are Waay too high
:laugh:

expect 25FPS at 10x7 during the slowest firefights

turn down your settings or upgrade your CPU

Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.4GHz 800MHz 2MB S478 CPU

generally ocs to 3.7 or so ... $119
... In Stock And Ready To Ship!

:roll:



the NW is more efficient than the Prescott ... look at Paratus' score in the P4 thread you posted in ,,, but your is a bit low ... it's possible the oc is not absolutely stable ... or your temps go way up during extreme load

evidently your CPU is 'holding back' your x1950p --is it the 512MB version?

 

[DOTC]

I had the same problem in fear, but with a X850XT. It almost felt like mouse lag. I was also playing it at 1600x1200 though.. when I dropped it down to 1024, everything ran alright. Never could get it to run "smooth". It was very playable though.

At the time..

Opteron 165 @ 2.8
2gb ram
160hd
500w rosewill

 

[DOTC]

*apoppin* You sure it is CPU? It could be a heat issue, BUT has anyone asked what hes using for a cooler?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: DOTC
*apoppin* You sure it is CPU? It could be a heat issue, BUT has anyone asked what hes using for a cooler?

*sure*? ... of course not ...
However, i am certain it will be much faster than his current rig if it OCs moderately. in my experience, the CPU speed affects the bottom-line FPS with FEAR

and i already covered his possible heat issue with PressHot
[could even be the GPU]

he claims it runs cool and i asked him to check it under load dropping out of Fear during a firefight

i am also *sure* his expectations are ridiculous with his current rig for 12x10
:Q



EDIT: *same* experience with my x850xt ... although it was quite playable ... Extraction Point was awful ... the 7800GS OC did better ... but i waited till my current rig in sig to play it now - really well at 14x9 .... very very occasionally there will be a minor performance 'glitch' or lag ... like the original FEAR ... but the xpack remains unpatched

 

[DOTC]

That for correcting me on the *problem* Its been ages since my days of northwood, i guess I keep forgetting about the almighty heat issue. I cant remember what article I was reading, but I remember a Athlon XP 2500+ getting 55+ fps with the X1950pro. I have a bad feeling it was a Toms hardware article :/

 

[apoppin]

it depends on the settings

his Prescott DOES run much hotter than either my NW or my Gallatin
-less efficient too

intel called that *progress*

way back when

 

[aircool]

Ive allways wanted a gallitin.

My expectations were not high, i hoped that it would be better than my 6600 card which so far on low its not.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: aircool
Ive allways wanted a gallitin.

My expectations were not high, i hoped that it would be better than my 6600 card which so far on low its not.

i *hoped* for a 'cheap' 3.4c ... since '04 ... actually buying a decent OC'ing 3.4EE Gallatin for less than $100 [net] has *exceeded my expectations*

what i am *thinking* is that you were/are CPU limited with your 6600GT

... and you are still CPU-limited with your x1950p

it is my understanding, the CPU determines the minimum and maximum FPS [basically] ... the x1950p allows you to play at *that* same resolution with much more *detail* and AA/AF then your old CPU

lower the resolution - if i am right, it is the *only* thing that will make any real difference ... 1:1 pixel mapping should make it a playable experience if you want *fluid*

or sell your GPU [$40] and buy a Gallatin for $120 like i did

NOT saying it will *cure* your problem ... there may be *other* issues [like heat] that may also contribute to the instability in FEAR

ALL i am saying - with a similar system - is that i got it 'too' ... not as bad since my resolution was 10x7 ... and "cured" it by getting a much faster CPU

from 8000 in 3DMark05 > 9280 with the EE

that is *substantial* in my book and possibly enough to explain what i am seeing in FEAR's x-pack

let others weigh in

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: aircool
Ive allways wanted a gallitin.

My expectations were not high, i hoped that it would be better than my 6600 card which so far on low its not.

i *hoped* for a 'cheap' 3.4c ... since '04 ... actually buying a decent OC'ing 3.4EE Gallatin for less than $100 [net] has *exceeded my expectations*

what i am *thinking* is that you were/are CPU limited with your 6600GT

... and you are still CPU-limited with your x1950p

it is my understanding, the CPU determines the minimum and maximum FPS [basically] ... the x1950p allows you to play at *that* same resolution with much more *detail* and AA/AF then your old GPU

lower the resolution ... 1:1 pixel mapping should make it a playable experience if you want *fluid*

or sell your GPU [$40] and buy a Gallatin for $120 like i did

NOT saying it will *cure* your problem ... there may be *other* issues [like heat] that may also contribute to the instability in FEAR

ALL i am saying - with a similar system - is that i got it 'too' ... not as bad since my resolution was 10x7 ... and "cured" it by getting a much faster CPU

from 8000 in 3DMark05 > 9280 with the EE

that is *substantial* in my book and possibly enough to explain what i am seeing in FEAR's x-pack

let others weigh in

I think you meant CPU