X1900xtx problems HELPP MEE

[inveterate]

I just got this driver going in, and i'm not haveing any fun

First off Halo refuses to run at the 1600x900 which ran fine on my 7900gt, it only runs 1378x1024 for some reason.

Under the ati control panel, it only scans 500mhz core and 594 mhz for memory.. TOTALLY WRONGGG..

Bassically the reason that i see a problem, if there is one,, was because i was playign halo and got 300-470frames on it while i used to get 500+ on my 7900gt, this is with same settings, and actually LOWER resolution. so i'm alarmed yes.

and idk if the ati driver is detecting for me the 2D or 3D clock.

btw, ati tech support is GAYYY,, they basically said,, "NO, i'm not gonna help you, call newegg." the guys' name is SHABU

 

[inveterate]

BUMMMP need help

 

[josh6079]

Hmmm....

First of all, try setting the clock frequencies in the CCC to the default 650 / 775.

How did you uninstall your old drivers and install your new ones?

 

[Captante]

(1) Clock speeds showing in control panel are 2-d ... the card ramps up to default when you launch a 3d application.

(2) Did you run a driver-cleaning application after un-installing the Nvidia driver & before installing the ATI''s to remove any files that got left behind?

(3) Although its possible to get a system to work ok after going from Nvidia to ATI (which is what I'm assuming you did) I've had much better results with a fresh Windows install when switching brands between these two ... you may need to do the format & re-install thing to get the best performance.

 

[akugami]

1600x900....that is such a wierd resolution. Does any monitor support that as native? You might not be able to select that because it's hiding the non native resolutions. And I wouldn't worry about an app that "only" gets 300-400fps when your other video card gets 500fps. More telling is performance in modern games. Especially those that gets less than 100fps with your old card.

 

[imported_Crusader]

This isnt an uncommon experience with ATI drivers when you start to really tinker with things (ie. use nonnative resolutions).. NV has had better nonnative support for some time now.
Get a GTX or better yet, a GX2 and your problems will go away.

 

[Ackmed]

Your speeds are fine, as mentioned, thats 2D speeds its reporting. It will clock up for 3D speeds when a 3D app is launched. There really should be a sticky.. every other day someone asks about this...

You can create a custom res, its not hard. Open up CCC and uncheck "Use Extended Display Identification" in the attributes, under monitor properties.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
^ ignore the ignorant troll.

Your speeds are fine, as mentioned, thats 2D speeds its reporting. It will clock up for 3D speeds when a 3D app is launched. There really should be a sticky.. every other day someone asks about this...

You can create a custom res, its not hard. Open up CCC and uncheck "Use Extended Display Identification" in the attributes, under monitor properties.

Thought you didnt reply to my posts.. cant help yourself?
Hows that famed Crossfire stability, work much? Hilarious. I'm sure Ackmed has a 100% stable Xfire rig that works as well as SLI... :disgust: When countless others are complaining.. his runs fine!!! Go buy one!!

That'll fix your issues.. toss in a Crossfire Master Card

 

[Fistandantilis]

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Ackmed
^ ignore the ignorant troll.

Your speeds are fine, as mentioned, thats 2D speeds its reporting. It will clock up for 3D speeds when a 3D app is launched. There really should be a sticky.. every other day someone asks about this...

You can create a custom res, its not hard. Open up CCC and uncheck "Use Extended Display Identification" in the attributes, under monitor properties.

Thought you didnt reply to my posts.. cant help yourself? Or is ATI paying you more alongside that Crossfire rig?

Hows that famed Crossfire stability, work much? Hilarious. I'm sure Ackmed has a 100% stable Xfire rig that works as well as SLI... :disgust: When countless others are complaining.. his runs fine!!! Go buy one!!

That'll fix your issues.. toss in a Crossfire Master Card

WIll ATI buy me a crossfire setup? that would be awsome, who do I call about that? (sorry for the pointless post, but I couldnt help myself)

 

[imported_Crusader]

Just troll multiple forums posting ATI propaganda.
Eventually, ATI will notice you and hire you on their viral marketing team.

It wasnt a pointless post, it was a valid question.. Lots of people wonder how to get into viral marketing.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Fistandantilis


WIll ATI buy me a crossfire setup? that would be awsome, who do I call about that? (sorry for the pointless post, but I couldnt help myself)

ATi hasnt bought me anything. Despite the ignorance put out by certain people. I do not lie, as they do.

 

[imported_Crusader]

While I dont believe your claims on the stability of your Crossfire rig, nor the performance you claim to get out of it at 1920x1200 HDR+AA that is contrary to Anandtech's testing..

I retract the statement that the breadth/ferocity of your posting makes you a shill necesarily, I will continue to monitor your online activities until further proof is uncovered before making declarations.

 

[Ackmed]

I dont have any stablility problems with Crossfire. No matter if you believe them or not.

"Monitor" me? Do as you please, doesnt matter. I do not get free hardware from anyone, especially not ATi. "Further proof"? There is zero proof, "further proof" claims that there is already some, when there is not.

You're clearly bias, and post misinformation/lies all the time. Your sig says that the 7900 is the "quiet" solution. The GT is anything but quiet if you consider the XT loud. Guru3d shows them both at 50db, and many user opinions say the same thing.

"best single slot card available"? The X1900GT is single slot, and much quieter than the 7900GT is. They are pretty even with each winning their share of games. The GT easily wins in BF2, and Oblivion, both very popular right now. Likewise, the GT easily wins in Q4 and Lock On. Both are about even in Fear, and Farcry with HDR. Yet the X1900GT can do HDR+AA, and HQ AF. They both cost about the same, so your claim that NV has the "best single slot card available", is nothing more than opinion, not fact. As you can see, they are pretty even speed wise, and cost wise. Yet the X1900GT can have better IQ for people who like HDR+AA, and who wouldnt want HQ AF?

Yes both NV and ATi shimmer, NV just happens to shimmer much worse. Which you leave out.

"superior multiGPU implementation and driver support in Windows and Linux", again, up for discussion. They both have postives and negatives for their SLI and Crossfire. ATi's Super AA is much, much faster than SLI AA. NV has the ability to create a profile now. There are several other differences, I should know, I have used both, have you? Better driver support in Windows? Again, nothing but opinion. ATi relesaes an offical driver once a month, NV comes no where close to that. Instead they reply on "leaked" beta drivers. Both driver sets are pretty good today, each having problems from time to time. No arguement from me on ATi's linux drivers.

'all while holding the performance lead"? Please. Anyone can see, both the X1900XTX and 7900GTX are fairly close in speed. Both win in some games, and lose in others. Generally they are pretty close to each other, and a "win" is 5% or so. Yet the X1900XTX can be had for less right now. The X1800XT is a LOT cheaper than the closest 7900GT, while being faster. How you can assert the performance lead goes to NV is beyond me. Reviews, and people who have used both, do not agree.

You show up here, with an obvious agenda, and your name goes right along with it. You are a crusader, against the truth. If (which I doubt) that you can post without calling names, accusing me of being in some marketing ploy, and act civil, we can respond to one another. If you continue to act as you have, I wont. And you will probably get called out by admins again.

 

[Bull Dog]

Originally posted by: Captante
(1) Clock speeds showing in control panel are 2-d ... the card ramps up to default when you launch a 3d application.

This is true and it impossible to see unless you have 2 monitors or have some way of viewing clock speeds WHILE a 3D program is running.

(3) Although its possible to get a system to work ok after going from Nvidia to ATI (which is what I'm assuming you did) I've had much better results with a fresh Windows install when switching brands between these two ... you may need to do the format & re-install thing to get the best performance.

Some people have reported better results after a OC reinstall, but personally, I've been fine when swiching between ATI and nVIDIA in the past. I didn't even bother to uninstall the old drivers......

Edit: Well said Ackmed.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Actually I believe you got called out by the mod as well. But I'm dropping this and leaving it here in this thread. So continue to follow me and yip and yap at my posts if you want to, but my post in this thread is not only true its also my opinion which I'm entitled to.
If you have issues with that, and cannot just present your side of the story.. please see the mod.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: Bull Dog

Originally posted by: Captante
(1) Clock speeds showing in control panel are 2-d ... the card ramps up to default when you launch a 3d application.

This is true and it impossible to see unless you have 2 monitors or have some way of viewing clock speeds WHILE a 3D program is running.

(3) Although its possible to get a system to work ok after going from Nvidia to ATI (which is what I'm assuming you did) I've had much better results with a fresh Windows install when switching brands between these two ... you may need to do the format & re-install thing to get the best performance.

Some people have reported better results after a OC reinstall, but personally, I've been fine when swiching between ATI and nVIDIA in the past. I didn't even bother to uninstall the old drivers......

Edit: Well said Ackmed.

I've actually had it work both ways ... going from my 9800 Pro to 6800GT went just fine & I ran the same Windows install for another year or so. This time around (6800GT to X1900XTX) I tried to do the same & at first things were going ok, then I ran some benchmarks that seemed too low & started getting errors. I went ahead & did a full re-install & benchmark results increased up to 30% (!!) in some cases, FEAR in particular saw a huge boost & Oblivion was very noticable as well.

In fairness however, I have to point out that swapping from the NForce 3 to NForce 4 ultra
may have been a contributing factor in this case as well.

 

[compgeek89]

lol, ATI drivers problems again. I never got my own issues figured out on my x1800 XT, thats why im not going back to ATi for a long while. Good luck with that.

 

[inveterate]

okok,, guys,,some of u trying to jack me forum.. LOL npnp.. but ok about that CUSTOM resolution.. i'm having problems because it's stretching the image out even though it put it on "USE CENTER TIMINGS" but for certain things, it still streatches it out.

and about the performance issue, Yes it is still running at 375-450fps while my 7900gt got 500+, BUTTTTTT i notice that the CLOCK will switch from 500/594 to 689/794 when i play a game.. SOOO i don't think the clocks are messed up..

BUT I"m still pissed at this resoultion thing.. "LG L203WTX" pr0n and movies are great on this monitor, and from what i can tell the Tareing i got with the 7900gt completely dissapated using the same VLC, ATI got better vid playback fo sho.

Also how come ATI detects my display as SINGLE display (DDC) and not as l203wtx like Nvidia Did..


THX for all ur responses thus far.

Edit: BTW some one plzz help me think of a way to get back at SHABU

 

[inveterate]

Late nite bummp bumpp

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Crusader
This isnt an uncommon experience with ATI drivers when you start to really tinker with things (ie. use nonnative resolutions).. NV has had better nonnative support for some time now.
Get a GTX or better yet, a GX2 and your problems will go away.

Seems this guy is having problems with his GX2...looks like ATI AND NVidia cards have their problems, so sorry his problem may not disappear just by switching to NVidia.

To help the OP, if you've used driver cleaner and reinstalled the drivers and it's still giving you problems, I'd say a reinstall of Windows would probably fix the problem.

But like some others mentioned, try with some newer games and see if performance is degraded on that also.

 

[compgeek89]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: Crusader
This isnt an uncommon experience with ATI drivers when you start to really tinker with things (ie. use nonnative resolutions).. NV has had better nonnative support for some time now.
Get a GTX or better yet, a GX2 and your problems will go away.

Seems this guy is having problems with his GX2...looks like ATI AND NVidia cards have their problems, so sorry his problem may not disappear just by switching to NVidia.

To help the OP, if you've used driver cleaner and reinstalled the drivers and it's still giving you problems, I'd say a reinstall of Windows would probably fix the problem.

But like some others mentioned, try with some newer games and see if performance is degraded on that also.

That idiot is complaining about it ONLY seeing 512mb memory. THeres only 512mb to see. Hes a dimwit, nothing to do with NV.

 

[Captante]

Just a thought.. since you've just installed a new video driver, it may have incorrectly detected your moniter. Go into the moniter settings & make sure that the checkbox labeled "hide resoliutions this moniter cannot display" is unchecked & see if that helps.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: compgeek89

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: Crusader
This isnt an uncommon experience with ATI drivers when you start to really tinker with things (ie. use nonnative resolutions).. NV has had better nonnative support for some time now.
Get a GTX or better yet, a GX2 and your problems will go away.

Seems this guy is having problems with his GX2...looks like ATI AND NVidia cards have their problems, so sorry his problem may not disappear just by switching to NVidia.

To help the OP, if you've used driver cleaner and reinstalled the drivers and it's still giving you problems, I'd say a reinstall of Windows would probably fix the problem.

But like some others mentioned, try with some newer games and see if performance is degraded on that also.

That idiot is complaining about it ONLY seeing 512mb memory. THeres only 512mb to see. Hes a dimwit, nothing to do with NV.

He's having problems with installing the drivers also...the 512mb wasn't his only issue. That wasn't the point I was trying to make anyway...Crusader came in claiming all his problems will go away if he got a GTX or GX2...I was just showing that NO, his problems wouldn't necessarily go away. There are problems with cards from both companies.

 

[compgeek89]

He was only having problems installing the 84s, which OBVIOUSLY do not support his card

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: compgeek89
He was only having problems installing the 84s, which OBVIOUSLY do not support his card

Hopefully he got it sorted. Again, I was just stating that there are problems with cards from both companies...and asserting to the contrary is foolish IMO.