This is a silly statement. How was R520 done wrong? It beat Nvidia's fastest at the time. It was only bested by the GTX 512 which has become vaporware after a limited run. There is nothing wrong with the R520 except that it was late. I'm sure R580 will be great but don't make it sound like it's coming because R520 was a failure. It's coming simply because it was the next chip on their roadmap.
Originally posted by: Snakexor
some of you may know i work at bestbuy in new jersey, so today, being bored as usual, im checking employee price on a few vid cards, and wanted to see if we could order the x1600xt ...just for the hell of it....
and what do i come across??
the x1900xtx, 699.99 retail, so im guessing this is msrp
what this tells me is:
1. no more paper launches from ati, and should have great availibility
2. friggin cards are gettin expensive...
3. shouldnt be too long
1. I don't think this is true. Just because it shows up on your inventory it doesn't mean the press didn't know about it. I know for a fact that AT knows but because of confidentiality agreement they were not allowed to reveal that to the public (including the forum) until a certain date the company wants the media start to announce it.
2. Dude, face it: It's RETAIL! You could not and would not getting cheaper than the internet regardless how much your discount is. I used to work both at Fry's Electronics and CompUSA. Corporate Margin calculations are bull. If your boss said that the store is losing money, do not believe them on face value. That is why they created M.S.R.P. (Manufacture Suggested Retail Price-for all of you) which means a price that ATI or Nvidia suggested to the retail store to get X amount of profit. Your discount is one way to find out how much profit the store makes. What they did not tell you is how much the Corporate profit more on top of store margin.
3. It's about right. The roadmap mentioned something around 1Q '06 which means anywhere from January until March. Big Deal. Let see how really soon you can have 'em in the store and how long it stays on your shelf.
I used to work for BBY when I was in college and I agree with others that just because something is in the computer it means less than nothing in terms of when it will be available and in what quantities. In fact they would have major game releases in the computer 6 months+ ahead of time.
As for the discount, it isn't all that great either, the only time you save any significant money is on items that have a high markup over cost, like just about any accessory or service plans, that is what BBY makes their money off of, not computers, tvs, videocards etc.
As for the discount, it isn't all that great either, the only time you save any significant money is on items that have a high markup over cost, like just about any accessory or service plans, that is what BBY makes their money off of, not computers, tvs, videocards etc.
I would love to hear your explanation of what CF has to do with purchasing stuff on the internet, this ought to be good.Originally posted by: Snakexor
dont try and hide your lack of knowledge because youve only worked at bby a few weeks with your barrage of "jackass" insults....i dont feel i warranted that kind of language simply correcting you on your miscorrection
I worked at Best Buy for over a year and have moved on. Get back to handing people their receipts junior
When it is a 3rd party defect, I dont see how you can blame ATi for it being late.
The R580 did not have the defect, so work continued on it. It is on time, and has been planned all along. Its not coming out because the R520 was broken, or a bad performer.
Originally posted by: Snakexor
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
If you work at Best Buy then you should know that it doesn't mean jack if its in the system. You don't know that that item is coming into stores. The X800XT was listed in the system forever and the best card seen in most stores was the 6800GT. It will likely be available only on Customer Fulfillment or maybe the website. It also does not mean the end of paper launches. BBY may allocate stock for it, but that doesn't mean ATI can deliver it. Same that with the X800XT in BBY stores back in the day.Originally posted by: Snakexor
1. no more paper launches from ati, and should have great availibility
2. friggin cards are gettin expensive...
3. shouldnt be too long
Its cool to see that it is in planning, but I wouldn't base any buying decisions on this info. It'll likely turn out just like the past two major ATI card launches (X800 series & X1800 series): FUD!
hello fanboism and misinformation....
us having them available on cf usually means you can purchase them anywheres on the internet, which for most of us on AT, thats how we get our product, not a B&M store. second, you just talk yourself into a circle, if the best we carry is the 6800gt, that should be telling you something about the validity of what BBY has on their shelves as to the availibility of a product....
Not true, I worked at BB for 4 years from 2000 to 2004 where I saw the release from everything from the Geforce2 to the X800 series. All the SKUs mean is that Best Buy plans on carring it (maybe online only), They have had a long history specifically with ATI brand video cards of having SKUs for them anywhere from 3-6 months prior to the card comming out. I remember with the 8500 sereis i believe the first I heard about pricing was through BB green screen, and it was another 2 months before ATI announced it, and yet another 2-3 months before you could purchase it, and another month before BB started carring it.
The reason this affects ATI more then anybody else is due to fact that ATI as both a manufacturer of both the chips and the cards they have more of an opportunity to work out exact models before announcement where as NIBs have to wait on announcement and compnaies like BFG and EVGA have to work out their OCing to figure out what clocks they are going to ship out at.
So again BB having SKUs means nothing, and the HPKEC pictures proves that the chip exists and that they have a board desing mostly completed but proves nothing about mass market production.
Yeah but mostly those were second tier products(at least a few years ago when I worked there) the Intel and AMD deals used to be good for the CPU/mobo combos.
.....checked employee prices on a friggin tv lately??!? if you have, and still feel this way, you havent a clue as to what your talking about....markup on a 40inch sony lcd xbr that sells for 3500 is around a grand, 33%
checked vid cards? when i bought my 6800gt agp, i got over 75 dollars off in store, lower than newegg or monarch....kthx
Originally posted by: Snakexor
some of you may know i work at bestbuy in new jersey, so today, being bored as usual, im checking employee price on a few vid cards, and wanted to see if we could order the x1600xt ...just for the hell of it....
and what do i come across??
the x1900xtx, 699.99 retail, so im guessing this is msrp
what this tells me is:
1. no more paper launches from ati, and should have great availibility
2. friggin cards are gettin expensive...
3. shouldnt be too long
Wow! All it tells me is that they've added this sku to your system in anticipation of selling it someday.
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Snakexor
some of you may know i work at bestbuy in new jersey, so today, being bored as usual, im checking employee price on a few vid cards, and wanted to see if we could order the x1600xt ...just for the hell of it....
and what do i come across??
the x1900xtx, 699.99 retail, so im guessing this is msrp
what this tells me is:
1. no more paper launches from ati, and should have great availibility
2. friggin cards are gettin expensive...
3. shouldnt be too long
Wow! All it tells me is that they've added this sku to your system in anticipation of selling it someday.
Agreed! Look at those places that have SKU's for the 7800GTX 512's. Actual availability are another thing! Silly lil SKU's
Have you ever thought about tax?
By the way, if you really have to know, BBY (and any other retail that sells performance guarantees for that matter) makes about 300-400 percent of those services. 33 percent is nothing. The rule of the thumb is that any PG is worth about 10% of the value of the item when it's new regardless how many years the services is so when a product is valued at 100 dollars that means at any point in purchasing the product the service price for that item is 10 dollars. Look at your service plan prices and take 300-400 percent off it. That is the true price the corporate got from the insurance company.
OP, with all due respect, don't take your managers statement by face and don't think many of us never worked in retail either. Many us might even was a manager in one of those retailer and some point with deeper knowledge than you are.
Instead of fighting us off, why don't you learn for a change?
Originally posted by: RobertR1
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Snakexor
some of you may know i work at bestbuy in new jersey, so today, being bored as usual, im checking employee price on a few vid cards, and wanted to see if we could order the x1600xt ...just for the hell of it....
and what do i come across??
the x1900xtx, 699.99 retail, so im guessing this is msrp
what this tells me is:
1. no more paper launches from ati, and should have great availibility
2. friggin cards are gettin expensive...
3. shouldnt be too long
Wow! All it tells me is that they've added this sku to your system in anticipation of selling it someday.
Agreed! Look at those places that have SKU's for the 7800GTX 512's. Actual availability are another thing! Silly lil SKU's
Heh we agree for once.
"I've seen there will be X1900s someday. From this I conclude there will be no more paperlaunches and widespread availability!"
LOL
hmmm, i got my x800xl (when the x8XX series was ATis flagship) for $169 and i got a 6800gt (when the 6 series was nvidias flagship) for $220
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