Noise from my X1900XT now Competing with my Speakers.... And now while watching DVD (oh god with H.264 decoding) but this Hisssss Sound really annoying. May be this"His" Brand... from the NOiiiise they Produce..... Hiiiiiiiiiisssss.....
for those bickering about dB ratings
http://www.lhh.org/noise/decibel.htm
here is a guide......its got some nice lists that equate readings to actuall sounds, at work, at home and somewhere else
http://www.lhh.org/noise/decibel.htm
here is a guide......its got some nice lists that equate readings to actuall sounds, at work, at home and somewhere else
I didn't mean a comparison with other cards which of course, should have been provided in the article. I meant an internal comparison of X1900 cards. If the Sapphire is supposed to be so loud, and the noise produced by the HiS card is just 0.7 dB lower, it can only mean that HiS is pretty much a loud card as well.
BTW, I'm aware of noise level scaling and that the dB scale readings might be misleading at the first glance so please don't try to educate me
BFG10K
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That's rather fortunate for you given you're far from being a genius.
I don't need to analyze anything, you need to stop slinging mud after being here a glorious two weeks because you feel pointing out the X1900 cooler noise is somehow an attack on your manhood.
"It's not as loud as people make it out to be". This is a relative comment that has no reference point.
What is the definition of loud? Compared to an explosion I'm sure it isn't loud. But in a normal situation compared to other cards it is loud, a situation which Anand's test does not show.
Anandtech's data does not provide evidence to back your statement.
Without a comparison, context or reference point a dB figure by itself is generally meaningless.
And this is the fatal flaw. "I'm just saying it's not as loud as people make it out to be" is a non sequitur from Anand's data.
There's nothing "supposed" about it. If you removed your head from the sand and looked at some real dB comparisons you would know this.
Which is precisely why the comment is just as meaningless as using "loud" just by itself. Without a reference point "loud" is a meaningless concept. It becomes useful only when compared to some point of reference, such as other video cards.
I don't need to promote anything, the dB readings from real comparisons do that. The only thing I need to do is to point out this fact to ATi fanbois who refuse to accept reality and use blatant logical fallacies to back their claims.
Loud compared to what? How would you know it's loud? Have you tried that 55 dB cooler in Anand's test environment? And what is to say the component will be 55 dB in your system, Anand's system or any other?
That's your opinion, one that has been debunked by facts from multiple dB tests.
I take it you didn't run any dB tests yourself, did you? No, of course not. You just prefer to use loose and unquantifiable terminology like "loud" and "quiet" because it means you don't have to provide any hard evidence to back your claims. Sorry but it doesn't work that way.
This is why you're so desperate to avoid a comparison; without other cards to compare your X1900 to you can make just about any claim you want since there's no point of reference.
There is no point of reference other than Anand's silent room and the other X1900s, neither of which can be used to claim a card is loud or quiet on it's own. At best you can say a given card is louder or quieter than the other tested X1900s.
What the hell are you talking about?
Which cards are louder and which are more quiet? Tell me? Because the only cards you can make that claim on are the X1900 cards done in the round-up.
The issue, n00b, is based off simple concepts of sound comparisons but clearly you're too busy producing AEG delusions to even get a half decent understanding of the basic principles involved.
To pick a number from an unknown context with no comparison or point of reference and then claim "it's not loud" commits so many logical fallacies it's a total joke.
BFG10K, you'll never quit, and I can see that now.
Here's basically whats happened, I looked at Anands Db results for the X1900 (as thats the card I'm buying and the only one im interested in right now) and mentioned that the card is not as loud as people think it is. One, based off of the 49 db rating (which in my opinion isnt very loud, I've had CPU coolers and other fans ranging near, or above these rating) and also from my personal experience in hearing one. Your right, it's opinion, but I'm allowed to have one, so dont go crazy all guns blazing because someone has an opinion.
Here's how you took my comment and made it into a flame fest.
In me saying 'The card is not as loud as people think', you assumed (or wanted to assume) I meant its somehow quieter then other cards (namely Nvidia ones). Which my comment had absolutely no relevance whatsoever to. You went all, 'you dont know anything about db, how can you say its quiet, have you compared it with other GPU's (which I dont need to to remember as Im only interested in the X1900 right now), you havent compared it in your particular room, in that particular set up, for you it could be a different db' rah rah rah.
All in a very abraisive manor, as some members have already pointed you out as being.
Firstly, obviously no one will be able to replicate the exact db ratings that Anand had, in this sense you are correct. However, that does not mean Anand's db ratings arent useful, they are still a good point of referance as to what you might come to expect from your own X1900 should you buy one. That is the very reason they added the noise guide to the article, and the very reason pretty much all fan manufacturers state the db and CFM ratings with the fan. We dont know how they tested that db, or what conditions, we may not even get the same db rating as listed on the fan box, it does however give us a good indication of what to expect and that is why it is important and does matter.
And why there are even listed in the first place!
Secondly, stop trying to flame bait by getting all aggresive and commenting on the fact that Anands reuslts are useless without being compared to other GPU's. The results were for the X1900 series only, and evidently anyone interested in the X1900 only, not Nvidia or the 7800 GTX or whatever other card. So comparing noise levels is pointless, because for a reader of the article like me its perfect. All I wanted to know was how loud the different X1900's might be, I coulnt care less right now how loud the '7800 gtx' is.
Hense my comment that your point about comparing cards being unecessary.
You need to chill out, not be so aggressive and not make everything in to a flame war.
I get the suspicious feeling Anand operates on a kind of hierarchical basis of forum experience which is utter turd. I dont believe in class systems in the real world and I certainly dont agree with it in Anand. BFG10K being a highly experienced Anand member does not excuse his overt abrasiveness.
Here's basically whats happened, I looked at Anands Db results for the X1900 (as thats the card I'm buying and the only one im interested in right now) and mentioned that the card is not as loud as people think it is. One, based off of the 49 db rating (which in my opinion isnt very loud, I've had CPU coolers and other fans ranging near, or above these rating) and also from my personal experience in hearing one. Your right, it's opinion, but I'm allowed to have one, so dont go crazy all guns blazing because someone has an opinion.
Here's how you took my comment and made it into a flame fest.
In me saying 'The card is not as loud as people think', you assumed (or wanted to assume) I meant its somehow quieter then other cards (namely Nvidia ones). Which my comment had absolutely no relevance whatsoever to. You went all, 'you dont know anything about db, how can you say its quiet, have you compared it with other GPU's (which I dont need to to remember as Im only interested in the X1900 right now), you havent compared it in your particular room, in that particular set up, for you it could be a different db' rah rah rah.
All in a very abraisive manor, as some members have already pointed you out as being.
Firstly, obviously no one will be able to replicate the exact db ratings that Anand had, in this sense you are correct. However, that does not mean Anand's db ratings arent useful, they are still a good point of referance as to what you might come to expect from your own X1900 should you buy one. That is the very reason they added the noise guide to the article, and the very reason pretty much all fan manufacturers state the db and CFM ratings with the fan. We dont know how they tested that db, or what conditions, we may not even get the same db rating as listed on the fan box, it does however give us a good indication of what to expect and that is why it is important and does matter.
And why there are even listed in the first place!
Secondly, stop trying to flame bait by getting all aggresive and commenting on the fact that Anands reuslts are useless without being compared to other GPU's. The results were for the X1900 series only, and evidently anyone interested in the X1900 only, not Nvidia or the 7800 GTX or whatever other card. So comparing noise levels is pointless, because for a reader of the article like me its perfect. All I wanted to know was how loud the different X1900's might be, I coulnt care less right now how loud the '7800 gtx' is.
Hense my comment that your point about comparing cards being unecessary.
You need to chill out, not be so aggressive and not make everything in to a flame war.
I get the suspicious feeling Anand operates on a kind of hierarchical basis of forum experience which is utter turd. I dont believe in class systems in the real world and I certainly dont agree with it in Anand. BFG10K being a highly experienced Anand member does not excuse his overt abrasiveness.
You're just not getting the point of this thread are you?
Unless your soul is black and filled with hate rage and or jealousy you're not allowed to add to it. Begone!
The X1800/1900 series has a loud cooler when it's spinning fast, I don't see how anyone can deny that. But thankfully the only time it ever runs 100% is when I first bootup my rig, under normal conditions (in the winter so far) the fan doesn't ever get close to 100%, because it's earsplitting.
Whether it's 55db, 45db, or 125db I couldn't tell, it's just pretty damn loud.
Whether it's 55db, 45db, or 125db I couldn't tell, it's just pretty damn loud.
apoppin
Lifer
you're the one that insinuated he works for AEG.
:thumbsdown:
that is worth a ban
and it looks like you won't quit either.
BFG10K is a "fanboy" of silent systems - that's all.
and it's pretty clear he's right in his criticism of Anand's review . . . there is nothing else to compare to. . . .
infact, the only variable given is: "For reference, the noise level of the room with the system off was 40.6 dbl." It's ok as far as it went [and way better than HardOcp's "sound tests"]
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Umm, there is talk about the noise level and all... but doesn't the 300+ W power consumption surprise anyone?
It seems an awful lot to me...
Now I know that not THAT many people can afford this card now (I can't, I grabbed a X1800XT for quite a lot less instead), let alone crossfire them... But if a single card can consume over 300W, wouldn't having two of them break any but the highest end PCP&C PSU? But that is obviously not the case, since I've seen benchmarks of Crossfire X1900XT running on lesser (but still high end) power supplies.
Plus, the numbers on this site: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-x1900xtx_7.html shows a considerable smaller number.
Or did I misinterprete the AT numbers: the 300+ W refers to the power used for the whole system (looking at the methodology, it seems to be that way)?
But that's the case, then those numbers still have limited uses: we still don't really know how much power each card consumes, which would be useful to know if someone wish to add a 2nd card later on.
It seems an awful lot to me...
Now I know that not THAT many people can afford this card now (I can't, I grabbed a X1800XT for quite a lot less instead
), let alone crossfire them... But if a single card can consume over 300W, wouldn't having two of them break any but the highest end PCP&C PSU? But that is obviously not the case, since I've seen benchmarks of Crossfire X1900XT running on lesser (but still high end) power supplies.Plus, the numbers on this site: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-x1900xtx_7.html shows a considerable smaller number.
Or did I misinterprete the AT numbers: the 300+ W refers to the power used for the whole system (looking at the methodology, it seems to be that way)?
But that's the case, then those numbers still have limited uses: we still don't really know how much power each card consumes, which would be useful to know if someone wish to add a 2nd card later on.
Elfear
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Originally posted by: Axbattler
Umm, there is talk about the noise level and all... but doesn't the 300+ W power consumption surprise anyone?
It seems an awful lot to me...
Now I know that not THAT many people can afford this card now (I can't, I grabbed a X1800XT for quite a lot less instead
Plus, the numbers on this site: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-x1900xtx_7.html shows a considerable smaller number.
Or did I misinterprete the AT numbers: the 300+ W refers to the power used for the whole system (looking at the methodology, it seems to be that way)?
But that's the case, then those numbers still have limited uses: we still don't really know how much power each card consumes, which would be useful to know if someone wish to add a 2nd card later on.
Power draw was measured at the wall so that inludes the whole system. The 512MB 7800GTX and the X1900XTX consume approximately the same amount of power, which is to say, quite a bit.
I'll be getting my HIS XTX today and see what difference it is compared to my 7800gt which I couldnt really hear in the middle of the other fans.
Please post pics of it too!
I'm still curious to know if HIS X1900 XTX/XTX's come with stock or custom HSF's.
Ronin
Diamond Member
Umm....you saw AT's article, right? I'd say the answer to that was pretty clear. (you know, the link in the first post).
Do yourself a favour and go to every single site that is selling the HIS X1900 XT/XTX and look at the pics they have posted up. Then go to the actual HIS website and look at the pics they have up. You will soon notice that every pick shows the HIS X1900 range to have stock HSF (but with the HIS sticker) and not the one in Anands round up.
Your post = failure
Ronin
Diamond Member
What are you talking about?
Yes I saw the one Anand tested, the one with the custom HSF. My question is, why does Anand's version differ from every other HIS X1900 pictured (ones with stock HSF's), I wanted to know if the retail version is like Anand's, or like the one pictured in every site selling it and on the HIS website. Thats why I asked the guy who is about to buy a HIS X1900, to tell me if his has a stock or custom HSF. To prove once and for all which one HIS actually sells. The one on their site, or the one in Anands round-up.
Your talking garbage now Ronin, your point failed, your attempt to mock me did too.
So just go away, your lack of intelligence (especially for a havard boy) is inherently disturbing.
Im curious to about what hsf it will have. Ill have to wait till I get home from work to check it out, but I thought it just came with the stock hsf until I saw this post with the anand link.
Ill let you know for sure though.
Ill let you know for sure though.
Excellent!
Look forward to your post mate, the HSF on the HIS may determine which X1900 I go for, as I really do like the look of HIS Anand custom X1900 HSF.
Ronin
Diamond Member
Like several other posts, you like to defend weak, if not inaccurate, points.
You're already on thin ice. Why continue to walk out further?
You're already on thin ice.
Why continue to walk out further?Originally posted by: Ronin
Like several other posts, you like to defend weak, if not inaccurate, points.
You're already on thin ice.
Go away Ronin, its clear that when you cant argue your already failing point, you diverge and bring in a whole new topic. Carry on havard boy, carry on.
You can try to pick faults in my posts all day long and continue to make yourself look worse.
What will be your next post?
Another threat to run me off the boards? lol.
I'm through with you. Me and the user two posts above are both interested in finding out what the retail HSF is like on the HIS X1900, evenidently you are not, so dont continue to post garbage flamebait on the matter.
As a general rule I don't put much faith in pictures on the sites, it could be an X1800 or a generic picture.
But this is what I see on the HIS website:
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/x1k_promo.html
Edit - that isn't the cooler than Anand had on his, but the internals look slightly different from my stock HSF. You could always shoot them an email.
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