X1800XL Not Dogs !

Therk

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^ I'm petty sure that a stock 3dmark05 XT score would beat a 7800 GTX
 

CrystalBay

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You need to change the heatsink fan and crank up some volts. the XL has 1.4ns memory.
 

CrystalBay

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It means theres roughly 1400 out of them for bandwidth. ATI sets them at 1000 stock.
 

the Chase

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Originally posted by: MemberSince97
Apparently these are lambs in sheeps clothing, just have to wait and see

mmmm did you mean wolves in sheeps clothing??:confused:
 

Duvie

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They will only get better, and so will the price in time...maybe something more reasonable compared to a 7800GT....

I am going to build another box and I want an ATi card in that one...I may wait and see if they come out with a AIW card...
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
yeah, i need to see some more OCing results

I don't know. OCing is always YMMV and I don't really consider OCability as indicative of chip value. You have to void your warranty, you might wreck the card, etc etc..

Saying a card has value due to OCing is weak, performance has to be there at stock. The cards you're comparing it to can be OCd as well.
 

Duvie

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I read the HardOCP thread and it topped out less then the XT speeds...Still better then the doom and gloom of early chips having trouble getting over 500mhz.....

Could be sweet if it van be had closer to a GT and can OC better then a GT 7800 model...
 
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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
yeah, i need to see some more OCing results

I don't know. OCing is always YMMV and I don't really consider OCability as indicative of chip value. You have to void your warranty, you might wreck the card, etc etc..

Saying a card has value due to OCing is weak, performance has to be there at stock. The cards you're comparing it to can be OCd as well.

where did i say the card as value becasue of OCing?

i need to see more OCing results, then i will consider it based on price.

yes, OCing is YMMV, we all know that. but there have been cards that are less YMMV than others. i.e. i have seen pretty much all 6800 GTs hit Ultra speeds
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: Duvie
I read the HardOCP thread and it topped out less then the XT speeds...Still better then the doom and gloom of early chips having trouble getting over 500mhz.....

Of which you contributed to in the other thread. How about admitting that you were wrong now?
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Duvie
I read the HardOCP thread and it topped out less then the XT speeds...Still better then the doom and gloom of early chips having trouble getting over 500mhz.....

Of which you contributed to in the other thread. How about admitting that you were wrong now?


You need to Shut UP MORPH...I just went in to keep you from attacking keys who had a link and your link (ala Turtle 1) didn't seem to prove what you were stating....

YOu can take an apology an shove it up your arse....

All and all people said we need to wait....Keys thread made commonsense and he had the right to post it, but nobody could really say one way or another....

 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Duvie
I read the HardOCP thread and it topped out less then the XT speeds...Still better then the doom and gloom of early chips having trouble getting over 500mhz.....

Could be sweet if it van be had closer to a GT and can OC better then a GT 7800 model...



Well he topped out below an XT because he doesn't have a proper overclocking tool yet.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Duvie
I read the HardOCP thread and it topped out less then the XT speeds...Still better then the doom and gloom of early chips having trouble getting over 500mhz.....

Could be sweet if it van be had closer to a GT and can OC better then a GT 7800 model...



Well he topped out below an XT because he doesn't have a proper overclocking tool yet.


He made it seem like he needed better cooling...perhaps his 7800 waterblock....He had 83c loads in 3dmark early and with the ceramique curing he got it down into the 70's....I think water would be good but he even stated he doesn't think he can hit GTX speeds...his words.....

I myself dont like cracking the retail hsf off so for me this oc wont do much. I like easy clock that doesn't involve a chance of screwing somthing up by removing the old heatsink...
 

MX2

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Originally posted by: Therk
^ I'm petty sure that a stock 3dmark05 XT score would beat a 7800 GTX

Thats great because I play 3DMark05 all day long
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: MX2times
Originally posted by: Therk
^ I'm petty sure that a stock 3dmark05 XT score would beat a 7800 GTX

Thats great because I play 3DMark05 all day long

i wish people would stop saying this and expecting a round of applause at how clever, original and witty they are. Like it or not 3dmark05 scores are a pretty good general idea of how a card will perform, and there are quick and easy to do...
 

MemberSince97

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Duvie
I read the HardOCP thread and it topped out less then the XT speeds...Still better then the doom and gloom of early chips having trouble getting over 500mhz.....

Could be sweet if it van be had closer to a GT and can OC better then a GT 7800 model...



Well he topped out below an XT because he doesn't have a proper overclocking tool yet.


He made it seem like he needed better cooling...perhaps his 7800 waterblock....He had 83c loads in 3dmark early and with the ceramique curing he got it down into the 70's....I think water would be good but he even stated he doesn't think he can hit GTX speeds...his words.....

I myself dont like cracking the retail hsf off so for me this oc wont do much. I like easy clock that doesn't involve a chance of screwing somthing up by removing the old heatsink...



You may be right
 

MemberSince97

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
yeah, i need to see some more OCing results

I don't know. OCing is always YMMV and I don't really consider OCability as indicative of chip value. You have to void your warranty, you might wreck the card, etc etc..

Saying a card has value due to OCing is weak, performance has to be there at stock. The cards you're comparing it to can be OCd as well.



Yes I kinda agree with you Rollo,but why would they put 1.4 ns memory on board and clock it @ 1000
 

crazydingo

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
yeah, i need to see some more OCing results

I don't know. OCing is always YMMV and I don't really consider OCability as indicative of chip value. You have to void your warranty, you might wreck the card, etc etc..

Saying a card has value due to OCing is weak, performance has to be there at stock. The cards you're comparing it to can be OCd as well.
6800GT was an amazing value because of its OC abilities, basically an Ultra for $100 less.

But some how that doesnt apply here, hypocritical approach as always. :roll:
 

Hacp

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Isn't the XL's Stock memory 1400? At least thats what I thought heh. Anyways.. if people are brave enough to buy the XLs, more ocing results would be nice :).