x1800 GTO, any takers here?

[Remedy]

Is there anyone here still interested in the X1800 GTO? The benchmarks don't seem all that impressive, but most were based off the CAT 6.2 and not 6.3. So, still some maturity can be seen.

With the price of the 7900GT being $299, I wonder if this card missed the target @ $249.

The idea of x1800 GTO's in Crossfire seem ideal until the limitation was mentioned.

EDIT:

GTO Preview from GURU3D

GURU3D official review of GTO

HIS x1800 GTO review @ GURU3D

MadShrimps GTO Overclocking Test

FiringSquad GTO review

EliteBastards review

Hexus review

Technic3D review in German

PCinpact artcle in french

VR-Zone review & unlocking support

The Techounge article

BoxGods.com review

CubOC.net review

Viperlair.com HIS x1800GTO review

Bona Fide review of HIS x1800GTO

x1800GTO in Crossfire article

Xbitlabs review of x1800GTO

XYZ Review of HIS X1800GTO

 

[Megatomic]

I have to admit that I started to look at the X1900 cards, but the x1800s never interested me at all. Then the 7900GT hit the streets and I was sold on them.

Plus, I'd have to get a crossfire mobo if I ever wanted to go multi GPU with ATI. I already have a high end SLI board now. ATI had the deck stacked against them with me this round.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: Remedy
The idea of x1800 GTO's in Crossfire seem ideal until the limitation was mentioned.

What limitation? :roll: X1800GTO Crossfire doesnt even need a dongle.

And the price looks like $199.

 

[M0RPH]

Get your facts straight before you post. The card will sell for $199.

The 7900GT's competitor is the X1800XT, which is now selling for $299.

 

[Remedy]

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Get your facts straight before you post. The card will sell for $199.

What facts? The article said the MSRP was $249. I stated the articles word.

 

[Remedy]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Remedy
The idea of x1800 GTO's in Crossfire seem ideal until the limitation was mentioned.

What limitation? :roll: X1800GTO Crossfire doesnt even need a dongle.

And the price looks like $199.

Why roll your eyes @ me? Roll your eyes @ Guru3D.

You need to know this.Planning Crossfire? You need to know this.

The observing ones among you immediately notice that there will be no GTO Crossfire card, this is correct. If you want to go Crossfire on the 1800 GTO then the 1800 XT 512MB Crossfire edition is the only solution which you'll have to pair with this card.

Now here;s the thing. Mixing the GTO and the X1800 Crossfire Edition XT would not make sense as the XT would drop down in it's configuration to match the GTO. You would only use 256Mb of it's 512 MB to balance the GTO performance. So if you want to go for Crossfire now or in the future then just stick with the 1800 XT or X1900 XT.

link

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: Remedy
Why roll your eyes @ me? Roll your eyes @ Guru3D.

Picking and choosing, presenting half the truth .. not good.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/10/ati_dongle-less_x1800_crossfire/

 

[the Chase]

Well price could change my opinion some but this reminds me of the 7800GS AGP card. Why not just lower the price on the 1800XL's to $199 or less? The 256MB 1800XT is at $299 right now(basically). But no, go through special efforts to cripple the card to 12 pipes so it's not even beating the 7600GT all the time. And I think they are using some crap 2.0ns memory on the things. Does have a few features that Nvidia doesn't(voltage control will help the OC'ing) but overall I think they could have done better.

 

[Cooler]

If they unlock then they will be a good buy.

 

[Remedy]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Remedy
Why roll your eyes @ me? Roll your eyes @ Guru3D.

Picking and choosing, presenting half the truth .. not good.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/10/ati_dongle-less_x1800_crossfire/

Well, I wasn't exactly. I can only quote what I've seen. But, my plans were to pick up the 939SLI32 board with a pair of x1800 GTO's. From my understanding of reading a taiwenese forum, the combo should work out.

 

[crazydingo]

If you didnt know, then its all good.

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Remedy
Why roll your eyes @ me? Roll your eyes @ Guru3D.

Picking and choosing, presenting half the truth .. not good.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/10/ati_dongle-less_x1800_crossfire/

Do you know if people can run crossfire in SLI mobo's yet? I have a K8N Neo4 SLI and really do not want to change boards I love ATI and how it performs in shader intensive games but the 7900GT is looking very good in my poor pocket book.

I had to sell my 1800 XT and then purchased a XL and had to sell it due to $ problems.

I may even skip this video card refresh and wait for second gen dx 10 cards while large LCD's go down in price.

 

[crazydingo]

Crossfire is chipset independent but I dont think anybody's cracked it yet. I'm with you sitting out this generation.

 

[LW07]

The X1800GTO is pretty impressive for $200(from what the article said). Running those games at at least 1280*1024 and more depending on the game with AA and AF is really good.

 

[Wreckage]

The X1800GTO was paper launched. So you can't even buy them. I could not see buying one over a 7600GT. NVIDIA can sell them for weeks at $200 and then bring it down by the time the GTO actually comes out.

 

[junkyardDawg]

from the above bit-tech article

We did get the chance to see 3DMark05 running in both single card and software CrossFire too. In single card mode, the Radeon X1800GTO scores about 6600 and the CrossFire setup scores around 12000 to give an idea of the scaling that's possible with the dongle-less CrossFire implementation.

if that carries over to games ATI may have something here

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
The X1800GTO was paper launched. So you can't even buy them. I could not see buying one over a 7600GT. NVIDIA can sell them for weeks at $200 and then bring it down by the time the GTO actually comes out.

All depends on which 7600GT's perform equally to it, and how much they cost, since the 7600's are $180~$230, which is quite a wide range of prices, and also whether the X1800GTO is $200 or $250.

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: Remedy
Is there anyone here still interested in the X1800 GTO? The benchmarks don't seem all that impressive, but most were based off the CAT 6.2 and not 6.3. So, still some maturity can be seen.

With the price of the 7900GT being $299, I wonder if this card missed the target @ $249.

The idea of x1800 GTO's in Crossfire seem ideal until the limitation was mentioned.

I'll probably be buying a GTO or XT in a couple weeks, there where some reviews on the GTO and it beat the 7600 by a couple frames in most games.

 

[SpeedZealot369]

does it unlock?

 

[FalllenAngell]

Originally posted by: LW07
The X1800GTO is pretty impressive for $200(from what the article said). Running those games at at least 1280*1024 and more depending on the game with AA and AF is really good.

Crossfire is sort of a mess at this time.

 

[BassBomb]

GTO doesnt mean unlock

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Originally posted by: BassBomb
GTO doesnt mean unlock

thats why I asked.

 

[meksta]

on newegg most of the 7600gt are at 189. In a few weeks (when/if the GTO comes out) it should be in the 160-170 range.....which is probably where it'll settle.

kind of suprised that the performance of these two cards are similiar, given the fact that one has 128bit and the other 256bit memory. So pick the one that is cheaper, which would be the 7600gt

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: meksta
on newegg most of the 7600gt are at 189. In a few weeks (when/if the GTO comes out) it should be in the 160-170 range.....which is probably where it'll settle.

kind of suprised that the performance of these two cards are similiar, given the fact that one has 128bit and the other 256bit memory. So pick the one that is cheaper, which would be the 7600gt

It seems to me the X1800GTO will pull ahead when you start to really strain the memory such as w/ Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic filtering. The 7600GT should be faster in fillrate limited situations.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Excellent decision to price this@$200 against the 7600GT. This time they can offer a card with comparable/superior feature set, and performance, in the same price range.