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x1600xt for $159 USD

Yep, saw it . . . looks like the AGP version isn't far behind . . .

. . . at $199 😛

How does the x1600t compare with ati's old generation? - like the 9800p/xt . . . looking for a cheap replacement card with SM 3.0 . . .

any "latest" benchmarks of the 1600xt with the new drivers?

Sapphire X1600XT, MSI 1600PRO available
 
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).
 
Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).
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almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉
 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).
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almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉
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Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).
Click to expand...

almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉
Click to expand...

Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?
Click to expand...

i dunno . . . the cheapest AGP 6800GT is ~$350 . . . the x1600xt is $160 . . . you do the math. 😉
 
This maybe my next card. I transcode as much as I game and since the X1800XL isn't coming to AGP (yet) this might do it.

(Anyone know if the AGP 6800GS NV40 has a working Pure Video processor?)

posted via Palm Life Drive
 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).
Click to expand...

almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉
Click to expand...

Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?
Click to expand...

i dunno . . . the cheapest AGP 6800GT is ~$350 . . . the x1600xt is $160 . . . you do the math. 😉
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hans said 6800gs though. Which is no suprise really. Which puts the XT about $50 or so cheaper than the GS from what I recall. Could be wrong about that.

Originally posted by: Paratus
This maybe my next card. I transcode as much as I game and since the X1800XL isn't coming to AGP (yet) this might do it.

(Anyone know if the AGP 6800GS NV40 has a working Pure Video processor?)

posted via Palm Life Drive
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Keep mind, you need the extra cash for Purevideo. At least $20, up to $50.
 
Great find! New release with "256-bit Ring Bus"!?
Please enlighted us!

Got this from HIS

Product Code: H160XTQ256GDD

* RV530 90nm process
* Vertex and Pixel Shader 3.0
* 10bit Native Display Quality
* Dynamic Flow Control
* 128-bit FP32 Processing
* 1024 instruction slots Shaders
* 128-way Ultra-threaded dispatch processor
* 256-bit Ring Bus
* High Dymanic Range rendering
* All stage Trilinear (16X) Anisotropic Filtering
* Full (HQ) Anisotropic Filtering
* 12X Temporal Max. MSAA
* 6X Adaptive AA
* Parallax Occlusion Mapping
* 12-tap error-free Dynamic Soft Shadows
* RMX/RMC
* H.264 Accelerated
* DL-DVI
* CrossFire support
* DirectX® 9 and OpenGL® supported

Chipset Radeon X1600 PCIe Series
ASIC RV530
Pixel Pipelines 12
Vertex Engines 5
Manu. Process (Micron) 90nm
Transistor 157M
Fill Rate 7.04GPixel/s
Memory Size (MB) 256
Memory Type GDDR3
RAMDAC (MHz) 400 Dual
Engine CLK (MHz) 587
Memory CLK (MHz) 1380
Memory Interface (bit) 128
Memory Bandwidth 22.1GB/s
Max. Resolution 2560x1600
Bus Interface PCIe
VGA Yes
2nd VGA Yes
DVI Yes
2nd DVI No
TV-out Yes
HDTV (YPrPb component output) Yes
Video-in No
TV Tuner No
FM Tuner No

# Powered by ATI Radeon X1600XT - 587MHz
# 256MB-128bit 4 channel GDDR3 memory - 1.38GHz
# 12 Pixel shader processor
# 5 Vertex shader processor
# 8 Geometry Pipelines
# Ultra-threaded SM 3.0 Engine
# 256-bit Ring-bus
# ATI Avivo?
# High Precision Architecture
# CrossFire? Support
# PCI Express® x16 lane native support

 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).
Click to expand...

almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉
Click to expand...

Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?
Click to expand...

i dunno . . . the cheapest AGP 6800GT is ~$350 . . . the x1600xt is $160 . . . you do the math. 😉
Click to expand...

hans said 6800gs though. Which is no suprise really. Which puts the XT about $50 or so cheaper than the GS from what I recall. Could be wrong about that.
Click to expand...

i can't find ANY 6800GS in AGP 😉

 
For all intents and purporses the 6800GS is equivalent to the 6800GT, which is near 2x as much in AGP as he pointed out.

This sucks. I'm with appopin, I have no PCI-E support and have a 9800 Pro (o/c to near XT levels) but want an upgrade. At least mine still works tho. 😛

The microcenter deal was OK but still, I hate rebates, so its a $300 card that isn't as fast as a 7800GT (which are getting under $300).

The X1600XT is too slow I think... A 6600GT would not be enough of an upgrade over my 9800 Pro IMO.
 
Originally posted by: duragezic
For all intents and purporses the 6800GS is equivalent to the 6800GT, which is near 2x as much in AGP as he pointed out.

This sucks. I'm with appopin, I have no PCI-E support and have a 9800 Pro (o/c to near XT levels) but want an upgrade. At least mine still works tho. 😛

The microcenter deal was OK but still, I hate rebates, so its a $300 card that isn't as fast as a 7800GT (which are getting under $300).

The X1600XT is too slow I think... A 6600GT would not be enough of an upgrade over my 9800 Pro IMO.
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i gave up on waiting for the 6800gs agp, i just ordered a 6800gt, should be here by tuesday. the 6800xt comes in agp, and TrunKKs was successful in unlocking all 16pipes on his card. http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1688837&enterthread=y could be a better deal than the 6800nu and a stock 6800xt slightly outperforms the 6600gt
 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?
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i dunno . . . the cheapest AGP 6800GT is ~$350 . . . the x1600xt is $160 . . . you do the math. 😉[/quote]


Usual FUD Apoppin'? :roll:

A. Where did the post I was replying to say "AGP"?
B. $289 Leadtek AGP 6800GT at ZZF
(long way from $350, on a 30 second search)
C. AGP is DEAD
 
Originally posted by: duragezic
For all intents and purporses the 6800GS is equivalent to the 6800GT, which is near 2x as much in AGP as he pointed out.

This sucks. I'm with appopin, I have no PCI-E support and have a 9800 Pro (o/c to near XT levels) but want an upgrade. At least mine still works tho. 😛

The microcenter deal was OK but still, I hate rebates, so its a $300 card that isn't as fast as a 7800GT (which are getting under $300).

The X1600XT is too slow I think... A 6600GT would not be enough of an upgrade over my 9800 Pro IMO.
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If the AGP X1600XT is $199, how is the $289 6800GT AGP "twice as much"? Not by my math, maybe in Apoppin' math? 😉

Hmmm $289 at newegg too



 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).
Click to expand...

almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉
Click to expand...

Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?
Click to expand...

i dunno . . . the cheapest AGP 6800GT is ~$350 . . . the x1600xt is $160 . . . you do the math. 😉
Click to expand...

hans said 6800gs though. Which is no suprise really. Which puts the XT about $50 or so cheaper than the GS from what I recall. Could be wrong about that.

Originally posted by: Paratus
This maybe my next card. I transcode as much as I game and since the X1800XL isn't coming to AGP (yet) this might do it.

(Anyone know if the AGP 6800GS NV40 has a working Pure Video processor?)

posted via Palm Life Drive
Click to expand...

Keep mind, you need the extra cash for Purevideo. At least $20, up to $50.
Click to expand...

I'm aware of that, however I still don't think NV has an AGP 68XX solution w/ working PV.

I think I may wait for the next ATI RV5XX chip and see if it comes in AGP.
 
Originally posted by: thesurge
This is comparable to an x800GTO, how well does it overclock?
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Unfortunately, this card is slower in most cases than a stock gto, nevermind a OC'd and unlocked one. It has 12 pixel shaders, but only 4 texture units, whereas the gto has 12 or 16 of both. The higher clocks can help a little, but it's still no match for a modded gto or a 6800gt.
 
Well, I just purchased a Fireblade x800GTO for $169 shipped. Overclockable to 580core/1200memory, but no 16pipelines 🙁
 
What people REALLY need to know about the X1600XT is that it SUCKS, and can't really be compared to a 6800GT/GS.

Check out XBits latest round up:

AOE3
No playable settings at all for the X1600XT, at least with the 6800GT you could get 41fps average at 10X7.

BF2
Check out 12X10 4X16X- 46fps for X1600XT, and 56fps for 6800GT

CoD2
Check out the 6800GT domination on ALL 4X16X settings.

FEAR
X1600XT does OK on the AA/AF, but too slow to play. Stomped again on pure speed.
(does anyone BUY 128bit cards for $200 anymore?)

Quake 4
Stomped FLAT at Quake 4. (and likely upcoming Quake Wars)

SS2
Ouch. Demolished at SS2.

SC:CT
Stomped FLAT at SC:CT.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who can read the lowly 128 bit X1600XT should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as 6800GS/GT. The aGP versions of these cards cost more because they're WORTH more. The PCI versions are just a steal in comparison.
 
Inq is wrong.

256bit ring bus - 128 bit interface to mem.

It's the 4 tmus/rops that kill it. It's basically the fastest 4 pipe card on the planet.
 
Originally posted by: Paratus
Inq is wrong.

256bit ring bus - 128 bit interface to mem.

It's the 4 tmus/rops that kill it. It's basically the fastest 4 pipe card on the planet.
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QFT.

Well for a 4 pipe card its doing well agaisnt a 12 pipe GS. Thanks to its, 4-1-3-2 architecure.
 
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