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WWIII Thread:7-10-06 Hannity & Colmes say WWIII has begun

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Why is Dave tolerated with his constant trolling?

Dave, I will paypal you $25 if you can find me 3 relevant, non-trolling P&N posts by yourself in the last 90 days.

Bedbuddies with the mods. I think it is blatantly clear to everyone that dave is nothing more than a troll that contributes nothing (and by nothing, I mean not a damn thing) to these forums except constant troll posts. Many people have been banned for much less, but the mods favor him for whatever reason so nothing will get done unfortunately. The elite of anandtech my ass.
 
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: alchemize
Why is Dave tolerated with his constant trolling?

Dave, I will paypal you $25 if you can find me 3 relevant, non-trolling P&N posts by yourself in the last 90 days.

I think it is blatantly clear to everyone that dave is nothing more than a troll that contributes nothing (and by nothing, I mean not a damn thing) to these forums except constant troll posts. .

Yeah he is like that imo too

 
The idea that the US is only concerned with controlling Iran and has faith in its leadership's restraint with nuclear weapons is asburd in my opinion. (And wrong)
 
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Jmman
If you ask me I think part of this dilemma can be directly traced back to Jimmy Carter and the hostage crisis. By all accounts their president was one of the students who helped capture and hold our hostages, and what did Carter do about it? Absolutely nothing except quake in his boots. I get the impression that this psycho jackass thinks we are afraid of taking decisive action, but in this day and age he couldn't be more wrong. If there was even a glimmer of a chance that a nuclear weapon would be used against the US, Iran would cease to exist.

I really don't believe that our government is afraid of Iran using nukes against us or other nations. The fact of the matter is that once a nation does develop a nuclear bomb, we lose control over them, and lose the ability to do certain things. That's what we're afraid of, not them actually using it. I simply can't imagine any country using a nuke...

Hell has frozen over... I have to say I agree with you.


You're being foolish

 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Umm... Where does the story at your link say anything about Iran having any complete nukes, let alone ten, let alone the means to send them as far as the U.S.? :roll:

If they do have them, they could probably just bring them in by coming across the Mexican border.
 
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
3-8-2006 Iran Threatens U.S. with 10 Nuclear Bombs

VIENNA, Austria - Iran threatened the United States with "harm and pain" Wednesday if the U.S. tries to use the U.N. Security Council as a new and potent lever to punish Tehran for its suspect nuclear program.

In comments to the IAEA board meeting, Gregory Schulte said the 85 tons of feedstock uranium gas already produced by Iran "if enriched, could produce enough material for about 10 nuclear weapons."
I imagine their "harm and pain" would be more related to the worldwide supply of oil. I doubt Iran is foolish enough to try to bomb us or anything like that, although I suspect that's what Dubya and Rove would like you to get out of Iran's threat.
Exactly. And how does *this* represent a threat?

"The United States has the power to cause harm and pain," Ali Asghar Soltanieh, the chief Iranian delegate to the IAEA, said, reading from a statement. "But the United States is also susceptible to harm and pain. So if that is the path that the U.S. wishes to choose, let the ball roll."
The US certainly *is* susceptible. So is every other nation on earth.

All the morning news shows were leading off with "Iran threatens US with 'harm and pain'". Jesus Christ. Damn sensationalist M$M. Not a brain cell in 99.9% of the editors and newscasters.

Rove is laughing his ass off right now.
 
Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Originally posted by: Harvey
Umm... Where does the story at your link say anything about Iran having any complete nukes, let alone ten, let alone the means to send them as far as the U.S.? :roll:

If they do have them, they could probably just bring them in by coming across the Mexican border.

unless we put in landmines... 😉
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Wouldn't mind seeying what kind of inventions come out of a WW3

I don't know for certain what weapons www3 will be fought with but www4 will be fought with sticks and stones - Albert Einstein (quoted from memory, so it may not be verbatim)

 
If you ask me I think part of this dilemma can be directly traced back to Jimmy Carter and the hostage crisis. By all accounts their president was one of the students who helped capture and hold our hostages, and what did Carter do about it? Absolutely nothing except quake in his boots.
*****
I was very young when that happened and remember asking and asking why Carter wouldn't or couldn't do anything...

I don't think that anyone in Iran could think we are afraid to act today. Their past actions are incentive enough to "stabilize" them.

 
Originally posted by: slatr
If you ask me I think part of this dilemma can be directly traced back to Jimmy Carter and the hostage crisis. By all accounts their president was one of the students who helped capture and hold our hostages, and what did Carter do about it? Absolutely nothing except quake in his boots.
*****
I was very young when that happened and remember asking and asking why Carter wouldn't or couldn't do anything...

I don't think that anyone in Iran could think we are afraid to act today. Their past actions are incentive enough to "stabilize" them.
Carter was fighting, unknowingly, against enemies in his own nation.

And, ironically, it was people of the same mindset that put the Shah in power in Iran in the first place who were then negotiating with the radical mullahs.


Sickening.
 
Iran would truly be stupid if they tried to hit us with 10 nukes.

Between the B2's and the Nukes launched via submarine, iran would be toasty.
 
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Iran would truly be stupid if they tried to hit us with 10 nukes.

Between the B2's and the Nukes launched via submarine, iran would be toasty.
Which is why Iran is NOT a threat to us! Iran has never made a threatening statement directed at the US. It's all make-believe. The neocons exaggerated the Soviet threat. They created a myth that the Soviets were behind all terror attacks throughout the world. They created false intelligence that Iraq had WMDs. Now they're talking smack about Iran.

They're 0-3 and we're supposed to keep believing them even they now openly admit they were wrong???
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
The OP should get a weeks vacation for wasting everybodies time like that....
Topic Title: WWIII Thread:3-8-06 Iran threatens U.S. with 10 Nuclear Bombs
Topic Summary: U.S. readies B2 Bombers on Iran
Created On: 02/10/2006 10:27 PM

Nothing in the title is accurate at all.....

except for the time posted.....

Wheres the proof.....

10 Nuclear Bombs???
US readies B2 Bombers???

Excuse me. The first part was addressed.

The second part there was an article about two weeks ago that stated the U.S. has in fact readied B2 Bombers specifically for missions over Iran.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Iran would truly be stupid if they tried to hit us with 10 nukes.

Between the B2's and the Nukes launched via submarine, iran would be toasty.
Which is why Iran is NOT a threat to us! Iran has never made a threatening statement directed at the US. It's all make-believe. The neocons exaggerated the Soviet threat. They created a myth that the Soviets were behind all terror attacks throughout the world. They created false intelligence that Iraq had WMDs. Now they're talking smack about Iran.

They're 0-3 and we're supposed to keep believing them even they now openly admit they were wrong???

They're not 0-3

We went to war in Iraq on the false premise of WMD's.
 
5-13-2006 Gold Mining Companies Enjoy Rising Prices On WWWIII Fears

DAKAR, Senegal - With oil soaring to new highs and the U.S. dollar back down, investors are looking to the usual haven: gold.

Gold has jumped from about $450 an ounce in November to $732 in electronic trading Friday on the New York Mercatile Exchange, a surge analysts attribute to investors looking for a safe asset amid worries about Iran's nuclear program, a weak dollar, and inflation tied to high oil prices.

A.G. Edwards analyst Dan Vaught said the price tends to be driven by investor beliefs about the stability of financial markets.

"If you think the world's going to end, you buy gold," Vaught said. "It protects against a major breakdown in equity markets."

"Gold prices can stay high as long as the world seems to be going toward World War III"
 
WWIII Thread:5-13-06 Investors and the Rich preparing for WWIII by hording Gold

What do us peons do to prepare for the War?

I don't know....maybe try something a little more productive than posting on an internet forum an average of 9.95 times a day?
 
Originally posted by: Wheezer
WWIII Thread:5-13-06 Investors and the Rich preparing for WWIII by hording Gold

What do us peons do to prepare for the War?

I don't know....maybe try something a little more productive than posting on an internet forum an average of 9.95 times a day?

Who would let us know the world is ending?
 
Originally posted by: Stunt

I think you are bull$hitting your solution...if you don't say what it is, it'll be obvious you have nothing to propose except complaining.

What's wrong with complaining? Why does one need a solution to the underlying problem to justify the pointing out something that's wrong, or a bad course of action?

While I won't discount Iran tensions in the recent runup in the prices of gold, I personally believe that the Gold/Oil Ratio is responsible for the prices we see today. As long as Oil remains at such high levels, the rise in the price of gold was inevitable.

Now Iran. Nation states can only be deprived of nuclear weapons when they themselves choose not to develop them. Canada, South America, Libya, Argentina, Japan, South Korea, Germany, etc., have all chosen this path, the only path. This is the wall that has stopped widespread nuclear proliferation, and is the underlying spirit of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. It is no different in Iran. No amount of bombing will deter them from this cause should they choose to seek it; in fact, it is the belief of men such as myself that bombing them will only ensure that they do indeed seek the bomb, as well as hardening their resolve when they do have one. To keep Iran from having the bomb, you must remove the reasons Iran is seeking to develop one, if they are indeed seeking to do so, which hasn't been proven.

At this point, I'd like to add that Iran has not violated the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Under that treaty, they have the right to develop the means to enrich Uranium for nuclear power. They have yet to do anything wrong, and it is American and Israeli pressure that has brought this issue to the fore. If anything, it is the US that has undermined that treaty, by refusing to disarm, by rufusing to rule out a nuclear first strike on a non-nuclear nation, and by seeking to give civilian nuclear technology to a non-signatory, India. Understand America's hypocracy in this matter.

So, why would Iran want the bomb. The most apparent reason, although there are others, is obvious. As much as I detest nuclear weapons and proliferation, if I were Iran, then the logic favours acquiring one. Whereas perhaps America believed that in the invasion of Iraq that they would instow such fear into the heart's of their "enemies" that they would forever submit to America's whim, to nations such as Iran the implied message has been perfectly clear. If you are a weak nation, such as Iraq was, then America would walk all over you with nary a thought otherwise. If you are a nuclear nation, that would stay America's hand and you would be free from her influence. If you know the history of Iran, such freedom from America would be tantilizing.

The solution to this reason is diplomacy. America must restore diplomatic relations with Iran, must remove itself as the sword of damocles forever hanging over Iran's head. This will never happen. Not aslong as men who eschew contempt for international law and diplomacy control America. Not as long as America's citizens have such a perverted mind view and lack of knowledge and understanding of history that they blame Jimmy Carter for Iran's continued existance and hold the belief that they themselves are morally set apart above the rest, and should thus submit the world to their whim.

So, the actual solution to Iran is that we will have to accept the inevitable, and that we will have to live with one more nation living under the cold logic of Mutually Assured Destruction. If Iran nukes Israel, then they too will be destroyed beyond a shadow of a doubt by the Israeli counter-attack. That is the deterrent. The world will mourn and rage against the stupidity. If Iran gives a nuclear weapon to a terrorist organization and they nuke a city, then because of the nature of uranium and plutonium, that detonation will be traced to Iran's particular enrichment capabilities and they will suffer the nuclear counter-attack. That is the deterent. You may believe that Iran is mad and thus do not fear their own deaths or the absolute death of their nation and perhaps humanity itself, but, well, the same was said of the Soviet Union back in the day and yet we live.

More could be said on the subject but I've given my piece for the time being.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Hannity & Colmes said WWIII has Officially begun.

I'm waiting for the Video of tonight's broadcast but they has G Gordon Libby and Gerst.

Hannity & Colmes

7-13-2006 Israeli warplanes go on attack

Warplanes punched holes in the runways of Beirut's international airport and Lebanon's main military air base 30 miles to the east, an attack that could draw the Lebanese army into the conflict.

Two days of Israeli bombings, the heaviest air campaign against its neighbor in 24 years, had killed 47 Lebanese and wounded 103, Health Minister Mohammed Jawad Khalife said. Besides the Israeli civilian, eight Israeli soldiers had also been killed.

The violence reverberated throughout the region and pushed crude oil prices to a new intraday record of $76.30 a barrel.
 
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