He clearly did several cycles, but steroids aren't very deadly at all. If they were, no pro bodybuilder on the planet would still be standing. Painkillers plus alcohol is eleventy billion times worse. And pro wrestling, being about the most severe form of body punishment you can undertake for a career, tends to have its fair share of painkiller addicts.
If this is truly a sudden unexpected death, I would speculate on things like strong family history of early heart attacks and/or a mix of prescription drugs/alcohol and/or OD on recreational drugs, steroids would be way down the list.
If this is truly a sudden unexpected death, I would speculate on things like strong family history of early heart attacks and/or a mix of prescription drugs/alcohol and/or OD on recreational drugs, steroids would be way down the list.
spanky
Lifer
- Jun 19, 2001
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holy sh!t!!!
if this is for real, then WWE is in horrible shape. they've been lowballin' their wrestlers... leading them to julk walk away from the company. with eddie being one of their upper tier talents, this definitely gives the wrestlers an upper hand in negotiations. i heard they were lowballin' chris benoit and were just gonna let him walk... they better not anymore.
if this is for real, then WWE is in horrible shape. they've been lowballin' their wrestlers... leading them to julk walk away from the company. with eddie being one of their upper tier talents, this definitely gives the wrestlers an upper hand in negotiations. i heard they were lowballin' chris benoit and were just gonna let him walk... they better not anymore.
Some of you people have no respect for life or other people.
In case you missed it, wrestling has changed a lot since it was the "yeeehaw down on the farm" entertainment it used to be. In the mid 90's there was a rather main stream movement and wrestling became quite poplular for a while because it had finally cast off that "white trash" appeal. It's more entertainment now than "wrasslin". I'm not saying that "those types" don't watch it anymore. In fact, they probably make up half of who watches it. But there are plenty of "normal" non-white-trash people who watch it as well.
Do you feel proud about stereotyping? How do you feel about "******"? I certainly hope that you afford both black and white people the luxury of your ignorance and prejudice.
On topic:
Is this drug related? It's likely. But its also possible that his former drug addictions and habits have played a role on his health. Eddie has been and always will be one of my favorites. From what I've heard about him, he is a very high strung individual. When he held the title last year he almost ended up in the hospital and he actually did colapse physically a few times because he had the weight of the company on his back. Since the champion on Smackdown is now injured and Eddie was in the title picture, he was likely to have the title placed on him again. With the ratings down and the show fighting to survive on a Friday night timeslot, the man was probably worried out of his mind because of the pressure of carrying the show. This type of stress could have easily given him a heart attack or stroke considering the toll of his former drug addictions.
Is this wishful thinking? Maybe. But its better to give someone the benefit of the doubt than make fun of him and the people who admire him. Eddie has overcome a lot in his life, and I have never, ever, heard anyone say anything but praise for this man. He was loved by the audience and loved by everyone backstage.
Even if you have no idea who he is, there should always be some respect for human life.
In case you missed it, wrestling has changed a lot since it was the "yeeehaw down on the farm" entertainment it used to be. In the mid 90's there was a rather main stream movement and wrestling became quite poplular for a while because it had finally cast off that "white trash" appeal. It's more entertainment now than "wrasslin". I'm not saying that "those types" don't watch it anymore. In fact, they probably make up half of who watches it. But there are plenty of "normal" non-white-trash people who watch it as well.
Do you feel proud about stereotyping? How do you feel about "******"? I certainly hope that you afford both black and white people the luxury of your ignorance and prejudice.
On topic:
Is this drug related? It's likely. But its also possible that his former drug addictions and habits have played a role on his health. Eddie has been and always will be one of my favorites. From what I've heard about him, he is a very high strung individual. When he held the title last year he almost ended up in the hospital and he actually did colapse physically a few times because he had the weight of the company on his back. Since the champion on Smackdown is now injured and Eddie was in the title picture, he was likely to have the title placed on him again. With the ratings down and the show fighting to survive on a Friday night timeslot, the man was probably worried out of his mind because of the pressure of carrying the show. This type of stress could have easily given him a heart attack or stroke considering the toll of his former drug addictions.
Is this wishful thinking? Maybe. But its better to give someone the benefit of the doubt than make fun of him and the people who admire him. Eddie has overcome a lot in his life, and I have never, ever, heard anyone say anything but praise for this man. He was loved by the audience and loved by everyone backstage.
Even if you have no idea who he is, there should always be some respect for human life.
hdeck
Lifer
- Sep 26, 2002
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you people bashing wrestling fans are pathetic. "white trash" people watch all sorts of things, including many of the shows you enjoy so keep your mouth shut. someone died (the cause is all speculation so shut up with your "good riddance" bullshit) and it has affected the people in his family and outside his family (just as if any other celebrity died).
no one wants to read your crap so stay out of the thread.
no one wants to read your crap so stay out of the thread.
Jadow
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- Feb 12, 2003
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I think all these wrestling deaths are as much if not more so related to their hard living lifestyle than steroid use itself.
They are on the road for 250+ nights a year, their bodies get pounded all 250 nights, even though the outcomes are pre-scripted, you can't fake the damage that those impacts, hitting the concrete floor, getting hit with a chair, or just having your body flying around night in and night out.
Their bodies just get destroyed on the road, so to take the edge off, and make the pain go away they start drinking, they start taking painkillers, they start doing drugs etc....
It's a viscious cycle. Being a pro-wrestler is a hard life to live, and not many can do it. They risk their bodies inside and outside the ring. But they are well paid for it, and some wrestlers like say Kevin Nash, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, etc... can handle it. Others can not.
However, they are adults and there is no slavery, they are chosing to do what they do, and take the risks involved.
This is one of the reason's why Owen's death is so sad. From all accounts, he was a family man, he didn't live the hard lifestyle, he wouldn't drink and do drugs with the rest of the boys, he was frugal, didn't piss away his money, he did everything right. But in the end pro-wrestling took him too.
I'd be interested to see the overall average life expectancy of a pro-wrestler. If a normal american male lives to be 78 or so, I bet wrestlers have on average a good 10-20 years less than that.
They are on the road for 250+ nights a year, their bodies get pounded all 250 nights, even though the outcomes are pre-scripted, you can't fake the damage that those impacts, hitting the concrete floor, getting hit with a chair, or just having your body flying around night in and night out.
Their bodies just get destroyed on the road, so to take the edge off, and make the pain go away they start drinking, they start taking painkillers, they start doing drugs etc....
It's a viscious cycle. Being a pro-wrestler is a hard life to live, and not many can do it. They risk their bodies inside and outside the ring. But they are well paid for it, and some wrestlers like say Kevin Nash, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, etc... can handle it. Others can not.
However, they are adults and there is no slavery, they are chosing to do what they do, and take the risks involved.
This is one of the reason's why Owen's death is so sad. From all accounts, he was a family man, he didn't live the hard lifestyle, he wouldn't drink and do drugs with the rest of the boys, he was frugal, didn't piss away his money, he did everything right. But in the end pro-wrestling took him too.
I'd be interested to see the overall average life expectancy of a pro-wrestler. If a normal american male lives to be 78 or so, I bet wrestlers have on average a good 10-20 years less than that.
middlehead
Diamond Member
- Jul 11, 2004
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Wrestling of this kind takes the blood and sweat from sports like boxing ,which already raises dubious questions about its supporters, and removes the sport, replacing it with a soap opera script. The popularity in no way mitigates that it is mindless entertainment - nay, it shows that it has been targeted at the lowest common denominator.
All pigs may wallow in crap, but that doesn't make it mud.
Latino Heats leader was very cool.. very funny. I'll miss his good natured trash talking. This is a huge blow for WWE.
I watched Eddie Guerrero since he was with the WCW. Its tragic that he died so early. He was so very entertaining. He taught me that it was okay to "lie, cheat, and steal". It was great that the WWE let him reign as champ for a year.
Seems like a wrestler dies somewhere in a hotel or a car. Brain Pillman, Junk Yard Dog, Big Boss Man, Rick Rude... It's like watching your favorite soap opera personality die.
Seems like a wrestler dies somewhere in a hotel or a car. Brain Pillman, Junk Yard Dog, Big Boss Man, Rick Rude... It's like watching your favorite soap opera personality die.
What the hell is the matter with all of you that are bashing Eddie? A man dies and it's suddenly appropriate to bash pro wrestling in general. If you don't like wrestling then don't post in the thread. It's really rude of those who immediately said that his death was due to alcohol/drugs/steroids or some combination there of. Anyone who thinks that steroids caused his death needs to check their facts first, otherwise they'll get called out and shown to be the moron that they are. According to the reports coming in he had been brushing his teeth. I would venture to guess most people that are under the influence of drugs wouldn't have brushing their teeth at the top of their list of things to do.
Anyone that doesn't have something nice to say about Eddie can leave this thread or DIAF or preferably both.
Anyone that doesn't have something nice to say about Eddie can leave this thread or DIAF or preferably both.
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