WTF? Software dev's make up to $80k?

[SandEagle]

80k? haha suckas. i make more than that in my dreams

 

[BoomerD]

80k? haha suckas. i make more than that in my dreams

Why of course you do...This is ATOT where we're all multi-bazillionaires...and $80K is just a nice dinner with a couple of super models.

 

[Dumac]

I have this dream where the whole country is on commission. I have no idea how to make it work and I'm 99% sure that it would fail anyways...but its my plan. I guess I'm different because I am on commission and have been for the past 10 years. I get paid based on my performance so I don't worry about how much the next guy makes.

And firemen, cops, military....I don't see how we can put a price on what they do.

Teachers are dealing with more and more bullshit every day. Well at least the ones here in MI are. They are forced to do more for more students with less money to do it with.

I'm just flustered. Who gives a shit if someone else is successful. Quit being jealous assholes (not your Boomer)

Almost anyone could just jump in and be a teacher/fireman/cop. Not everyone can design software systems.

I have nothing against teachers/firemen/cops, but that is just the truth of the matter. For example, there is a large supply of teachers in lots of areas, as the job doesn't require much education or intelligence. Not to mention how hard it is to get fired as a teacher...

 

[Special K]

Ultimately it depends on supply and demand in free economy

If enough people quit going into teaching because they believed it didn't pay enough, wouldn't they have to start paying teachers more?

 

[holden j caufield]

We are in financial transactions, next time you run you debit, or cc card, pay your bills etc. think of me. We back up everything and have backups of those locally and then backups in different regions of the country in case a natural disaster strikes every penny of your hard earned money will be tracked and put in place. More importantly we make the system as safe as possible to protect your identity, your banking numbers, address, cc#, ss# etc. All maintenance is done when the masses are out or asleep, like 3am in the morning.

It's not my place to say who is or isn't important but hopefully we'll never see a cyber attack of magnitude that effects the power grid, banking system etc but you'll quickly realize how everything will stand still if these things go down.

 

[rcpratt]

I think those of us that work in the energy industry win the "most important" debate.

 

[rh71]

I'm being serious on this one. All these threads about how people here are pissed about what cops and teachers make....let them post their salary and exactly what it is they do to help society.

What? Software developers actually work... it's the sys admins who sit in a loud room (or next to it) and do jack until fit hits the shan.

 

[rudder]

People get paid based on how much money they can bring in. That is why the guy that flies the twin engine 20 seat turboprop makes $14K and the 747 Captain makes 250K.

 

[Turin39789]

If enough people quit going into teaching because they believed it didn't pay enough, wouldn't they have to start paying teachers more?

you'll just drive off the talent.

if we take out all the bonuses for wall street and people start quitting will they have to start paying more or will they just hire worse people?

 

[EagleKeeper]

S/W engineers also developed the modules in your cell phone, radio and vehicles.
Drive on the road - traffic lights programmed and controlled by S/W programs
Fly - electronics to plan the flight, get the aircraft off the ground and control it in flight. All S/W programs
Unless you can survive without any type of computer interfacing at all - thank a S/w engineer for making your life easier and/or bearable.

 

[holden j caufield]

also any engineer who refuses to go to work and instead stomps his/her feet with signs outside would at least get written up or worse. It's not remotely close to the teachers strike I posted.

 

[nonameo]

People get paid based on how much money they can bring in. That is why the guy that flies the twin engine 20 seat turboprop makes $14K and the 747 Captain makes 250K.

Eh? I'd think that any pilot would make more than 14k annually. That's less than minimum wage.

 

[Hacp]

Who cares what companies do with their own money? Teachers and cops and firefighters on the other hand are on the taxpayer dime. Everyone should be outraged at their exorbitant salaries.

 

[Dear Summer]

because no one wants to do that

who really wants to code all day?

 

[MotF Bane]

i sit at a desk and write papers and make more than $70k

Damn, I didn't know you were making that much. But you pretty much live there.

 

[MotF Bane]

Rude, on AT, you're getting nowhere with this one.

 

[duragezic]

Senior ones can make a lot more than that. I'm guessing that site has separate titles for varying levels of software engineers. Some of the software leads I worked with I didn't know exact salaries but did know pay grade and what range the grades pay and a principal dev could make $120k or so (higher in other cities).

 

[cliftonite]

Senior ones can make a lot more than that. I'm guessing that site has separate titles for varying levels of software engineers. Some of the software leads I worked with I didn't know exact salaries but did know pay grade and what range the grades pay and a principal dev could make $120k or so (higher in other cities).

Yup. 80k is what someone with 3 to 5 years of experience makes around here NNJ.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

lol, $80k is about what a dev with a few years exp make. they def. don't top out at $80k.

 

[OutHouse]

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer_/_Developer_/_Programmer/Salary


That's an outrage! They sit behind a computer and don't do shit. Why would they pay them that much money just to sit around and grow a second ass???

and you dont get pissed at a baseball player making 5 mill a year for playing a game?

outrage not found.

 

[lozina]

80k for software dev is pretty avg around here (metro NY)

but of course the living expenses are through the roof...

face it - salaries are supply and demand. Sure police and firefighters do a hell of a lot more good for society than I do, but just about anybody can do that work. I'd like to see you take some average Joe off the street and do what I do as fast as I do it. On the flipside, I wouldn't have any problem picking up a firefighter job or policeman job. Especially where I live where cops sleep in their cars in empty parking lots and the firefighters are in their social rooms boozing up!

 

[OutHouse]

Eh? I'd think that any pilot would make more than 14k annually. That's less than minimum wage.

fraid so. small commuter airline companies pay their pilots absolute shit.

 

[PimpJuice]

Heck...I sling cable and make a decent living. I just don't get why people are so concerned with what other people are making.

Aren't you the fucking moron who created this thread? WTF are you talking about?

You don't understand why people are concerned with what other people make yet you create a thread chastising software devs for making 80k......wow

and thats why you sling cable for a living

 

[DAGTA]

If people were paid based on their contribution to society Doctors/Emergency workers/Firemen/Teachers would be the highest paid people on the planet, and CEO/middle management/callcenters/etc would make shit money. There is no correlation between salary and contribution to society, sorry.

Doctors kills more people each year than most (maybe all) other professions. But, maybe that is contributing to society.

 

[DAGTA]

I was thinking about it a bit ago and I was wondering how hard it would be to jump into a software engineering position without any higher level education. I mean, you could theoretically prove yourself via examples, but they'd have to be pretty decent (at least college level work, of course) and you'd have to prove a basic to intermediate understanding of "the software process." Software processes aren't as important since a lot of businesses use their own process and they send you to training for them anyway (I know I've been to training for it).

Somewhat related to that, I have an e-friend that did go to college for computer science, but ended up getting into the gaming industry via the work he did on his own 2D game engine.

If you want to make the higher side of the soft dev scale, you need to have a solid understanding of the SDLC and be able to prove you know your stuff. Entry level can get in at $50K or above but closing in the six figures is for people that can walk on a team and lead by example.