WTF!!!!! NVIDIA TO BUY 3DFX!!!! PR INSIDE!!!! NOW WITH INTERVIEW W/BRIAN BURKE

[Soccerman]

well, after sleeping on this news, I still don't think of this as a good thing, however it allows other companies to take 3dfx's place.

Matrox, deserves revenue. they improved their driver situation a while ago (with the G400), and I'd have to say, that if we can give them a reason to do so, then they will continue to get new drivers, and develope new hardware.

ATi, however is the only current 3D king (many consider the ATi Radeon better then the GTS), and I'm wondering if they might see the light and buy up all the people who were at 3dfx.

if either Matrox or ATi find ways to get former 3dfx people on their payroll, we will yet see competition, however I have to say, nVIdia now has a leg up, so their R&D team won't need to work too hard IMHO for a while.

now's the time for Bitboys to make a big entrance, as well as PowerVR for introducing a new card. in fact, if PowerVR can do that before the NV20, and NV25 come out, it might have a winner in it's hands.

 

[SSP]

Well one thing isn't FUD and thats Nvidia's 2D which is more like FUBAR

I wouldn't know. I have a G400.

 

[RobsTV]

This may actually be good news, and get prices lower.
By removing 1 of the players, the reamining players will get a lot more business, which will help them become more profitable. This will give them more flexability on pricing. Most customers don't buy a new video card because they have too, they get one because they want too. Manufacturers can make more money selling you a cheap card every year, than they can by selling you an expensive card every 2 to 3 years.

Also, think of 3dfx as Cyrix, nVidia as Intel, and ATI as AMD. When Cyrix practically vanished, it forced buyers back to Intel or AMD. This enhanced competition between the 2, and look what it has done to cpu prices. Dirt cheap.

 

[BlvdKing]

3Dfx: please release (or leak) a last set of HSR (Win9x,2000) drivers for the V5 5500 I bought yesterday! I don't want a $200 dead stick in my computer! I guess if I don't see a final driver in about a week or so I will just return it to play it safe.

 

[Scorpion]

I Still think you all are absolutely ludacris to think that all nVidia's cards hereafter will not be less than $500.

Dropping prices in DDR ram people is bring the price down. That's why it was so F*cking high in the first place. It's not just because nVidia WANTED to charge $500 for a card. That was just a niche for the enthusiasts.

And I don't understand some guy relating nVidia's next generation of cards to problems he had with a GeForce 256 or TNT2 which are like 3 generations old. I've not had a single problem with my GeForce 256 DDR. But to assume that these problems with plague all future cards is absolutly ridiculous.

 

[RobsTV]

Hopefully nVidia will be smart enough not to hire the 3dfx/STB tech support and driver development departments from 3dfx. When 3dfx kept all the old STB staff for this, that was the first sign of the end of a great company. STB was a joke, so hopefully with all the money nVidia is wasting on this asset buyout, they will at least learn from 3dfx, and not touch most of the old STB staff, otherwise ATI will be the only one to benefit.

 

[Dulanic]

I just want to beat some of you over the head....



<< Our long term goal is to make our 3D graphics technology available to everyone who can benefit from it. We want to be the best graphics solution, top-to-bottom, in each market segment from entry level to high-end. So if you have $100, $300, $500 or $1,500 dollars to invest in graphics for your computer, the best choice for you will be a solution from NVIDIA&quot;

And there it is.

If you thought $500 or $600 was a bundle for a video card, hold on to your hat cause you ain't seen nothing yet. >>



You guys are dumb if you think Nvidia is going to charge $1500 for a CONSUMER card.... $1500 is clearly stating for the buisness graphics workstation cards. Nvidia is trying to EXPAND their market share.... the only way they can do that is by having good cards in ALL price markets. Basically what I hear most of you saying is dont make the best you can make if it will be more expensive..... Its just like a TV.... you have the cheap $100 models going all the way up to thousands and thousands.... if you want the ABSOLUTE best you always pay a premium.... its like that in any market...... What I hear you guys saying is Intel should stop making SMP boards because 2 CPUs and a SMP board is too expensive for you so they shouldnt make it. If Nvidia has the tech to make a board that will totally rock big time but will be hellisly expensive why shouldnt they make it available so the people who can afford it/or need it can buy it. Should companies stop making all their top end product lines because its too expensive for you? Nope.... Do you complain that you can buy a $10,000 stereo? No and this is no different..... it doesnt mean the $1000 stereo will suck.... in fact it will rock.... but the $10,000 stereo is still out there for the complete audiophiles.....

I think the problem is that everyone here wants the absolute best, and your mad because video technology is getting to the point where the lower end cards will do everything you need, but the technology is there to make the extreme card thats expensive.

 

[Blackhawk2]

Dulanic its like this: why make the best you can make when developers will only use the worst of what you make?

Its like having a car that can do 200 m.p.h when the speed limit is 50 m.p.h. Whats the point?

 

[Rudee]

<< So if you have $100, $300, $500 or $1,500 dollars to invest in graphics for your computer, the best choice for you will be a solution from NVIDIA >>



$1500 for a video card??? Damn, that's practically rape!

 

[Dulanic]

So now not only is Nvidia going to rip us off its their fault what developers do with their technology?

As for the $1500 cards..... thoose have been around for a while... Some workstation cards have run more than that.

 

[Dulanic]

Seriously anyone ever hear of Fire GL? Thats just one case.... the Fire GL 1 sells for $600 the Fire GL 2 goes for $1200 Originally the Fire GL went for around $1500 when it first came out. Thats what Nvidia is talking about... not comsumer cards. Hell the Fire GL 3 will probably run $2000.

 

[Marty]

Ahaahaaa! $300 for a 64MB NV20!? Not likely. This is what the beakup is gonna be:

$100: GF2 MX 32MB
$300: GF2 PRO 64MB
$500: NV20 64MB
$1500: NV20 Quadro

Marty

 

[Bojo]

Hehehe Glen your silly!

Also can I just clear something up. I know most of you are gamers and you buy game cards these will always cost at most around 500 dollars.

There is also an entity know as a proffesional 3d graphics card. They ALL cost at least 1500 or more (in some cases much more).

Yes obviously it sucks that there is less competition now, but there still is competition. Cards are not going to drasticly go up in price.

 

[xtreme2k]

I dont know why the HELL you guys blaming nVidia for this $500 video card crap. It is 3dfx that started this $500 video card crap, with their magical V2 SLI. That product took off and every company out there suddenly realised that there IS a market for $500 video card. nVidia only realised their GF2 Ultra because they want to have some competition at their V5 6000 level, which was expected to cost $600.

Nvidia is not the guy to blame for this $500 crap, blame 3dfx.

 

[Soccerman]

xtreme2k, nVidia decides their own prices. it is their fault for putting the price at $500, simple as that.

if 3dfx jumped off a bridge, would nVidia do the same?

hmm.. 3dfx DID jump off a bridge by succoming to nVidia.. nVidia simply recovered the body and stole what possesions that it had.



btw, I'm still amazed nearly no-one noticed, or at least responded to my original LONG post in this thread. am I ignored that badly?

 

[xtreme2k]

xtreme2k, nVidia decides their own prices. it is their fault for putting the price at $500, simple as that.

it is NOT as simple as that. Before 3dfx announce the $600 V5 6000, nvidia DIDNT have ANYTHING at the $500 price range. After 3dfx announce the $600 v5 6000, it is THEN when nvidia starts making a product that cost us $500. You guys are blind to blame this $500 crap totally on nvidia. It is 3dfx which started this when they released the V2 SLI

 

[KillaBee]

What will I ever do without 3dfx. I think I'll kill myself.

I 3dfx's days were limited. I mean, who here has bought a 3dfx product in the last 6 months? Probably not many.

 

[WetWilly]

Soccerman

am I ignored that badly?

Looks so

Actually I share your pain - I've got a Vortex 2 card as well, and that's one factor out of several that keeps me from moving to Win2K. After a FUN time in Flaky City with a SB16/CSP combo, I don't feel like supporting Creative. Creative's acquisition of Aureal's remains and its likely burial of A3D just ices the cake. I wonder if everyone that raves about EAX has heard a good implementation of A3D?

And now the V5500. I just had a Creative MX in my PC last week to objectively give it a shot. It was perfectly stable at AGP4X with fast writes on my VIA board, no crashes, overclocked great, Detonator 6.49 were pretty good, but the stuff I played didn't look nearly as good as the V5500. When I fired up Half-Life the first thing I thought was deja vu - Riva 128. It was to the point where it was a no-brainer to give up the slightly-to-not perceptible speed differences on the Geforce2 MX to get 3dfx's functional FSAA.

To make things worse, I had been waiting for a Matrox G800, which now looks like it's going to be introduced at the GDC in late March 2001. And what's going to be straight and center in March 2001? Yup, the NV20. And, speaking of coincidences, it's rumored that nVidia raided Matrox's engineering department, which caused the delay of the G800.

At this point in time, I'm not a happy camper.

 

[AdamK47]

Woohoo! VoodooForce 256 SLI VGTS here I come!

You nVidiot!

Resurrecting a thread this old just for that? DON'T!
Admin allisolm

 

[jimhsu]

Wow. 11 year Necro FTL.

 

[AdamK47]

Seems like yesterday

 

[Patrick Wolf]

One word: wtf.

 

[AdamK47]

That's three.

 

[FallenHero]

What will I ever do without 3dfx. I think I'll kill myself.

I 3dfx's days were limited. I mean, who here has bought a 3dfx product in the last 6 months? Probably not many.

I haven't bought one in years!!!

 

[Blain]

Does this mean no more driver support for my Voodoo5 5500?