WTF Now CHINA WANTS WAR!!!!

[dpm]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Gaard Everybody calm down. It's just sabre rattling.

Oh yea? 11-19-2003 China moves to rid itself dependence on foreign technologies Seeking to compete on its own terms in the lucrative entertainment industry, China announced a government-funded project Tuesday to promote an alternative to DVDs and "attack the market share" of the global video format. EVD would give Chinese manufacturers and technology consortiums a homegrown platform to sell and build on. It also is aimed at relieving Chinese DVD producers from paying licensing fees to the companies that hold patents to the DVD format. A spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America did not immediately return a message seeking comment. Research on EVD began in 1999. It was developed by a company called Beijing E-World Technology Co. Ltd. using video-compression technologies licensed by On2 Technologies, an American company. On the surface, it would seem that EVD's international impact could be huge, because China makes about 60 percent of the world's DVD players, said Vamsi Sistla, senior analyst with Allied Business Intelligence, an Oyster Bay, N.Y.-based research firm. EVD's emergence has not only economic but cultural roots. It is consistent with communist China's broader intentions ? carving out a unique place in the global economy, whose standards it complains have been defined by the West. As it moves further from its planned-economy roots and deeper into its market-oriented experiment, China has made a point of saying it wants to develop Chinese answers to modern problems. EVD fits that goal. The Communist Party newspaper People's Daily said last month that EVD will let domestic disc-player manufacturers "shake off their previous dependence on foreign technologies."

Good lord!

You don't mean to say that China will go from using an media format developed by America, to a media format licensed from America?

The sky is falling!

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Gaard Everybody calm down. It's just sabre rattling.

Oh yea? 11-19-2003 China moves to rid itself dependence on foreign technologies Seeking to compete on its own terms in the lucrative entertainment industry, China announced a government-funded project Tuesday to promote an alternative to DVDs and "attack the market share" of the global video format. EVD would give Chinese manufacturers and technology consortiums a homegrown platform to sell and build on. It also is aimed at relieving Chinese DVD producers from paying licensing fees to the companies that hold patents to the DVD format. A spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America did not immediately return a message seeking comment. Research on EVD began in 1999. It was developed by a company called Beijing E-World Technology Co. Ltd. using video-compression technologies licensed by On2 Technologies, an American company. On the surface, it would seem that EVD's international impact could be huge, because China makes about 60 percent of the world's DVD players, said Vamsi Sistla, senior analyst with Allied Business Intelligence, an Oyster Bay, N.Y.-based research firm. EVD's emergence has not only economic but cultural roots. It is consistent with communist China's broader intentions ? carving out a unique place in the global economy, whose standards it complains have been defined by the West. As it moves further from its planned-economy roots and deeper into its market-oriented experiment, China has made a point of saying it wants to develop Chinese answers to modern problems. EVD fits that goal. The Communist Party newspaper People's Daily said last month that EVD will let domestic disc-player manufacturers "shake off their previous dependence on foreign technologies."

Good lord!

You don't mean to say that China will go from using an media format <STRONG>developed </STRONG>by America, to a media format <STRONG>licensed</STRONG> from America?

The sky is falling!

Dave Always thinks the sky is falling.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Gaard Everybody calm down. It's just sabre rattling.

Oh yea? 11-19-2003 China moves to rid itself dependence on foreign technologies Seeking to compete on its own terms in the lucrative entertainment industry, China announced a government-funded project Tuesday to promote an alternative to DVDs and "attack the market share" of the global video format. EVD would give Chinese manufacturers and technology consortiums a homegrown platform to sell and build on. It also is aimed at relieving Chinese DVD producers from paying licensing fees to the companies that hold patents to the DVD format. A spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America did not immediately return a message seeking comment. Research on EVD began in 1999. It was developed by a company called Beijing E-World Technology Co. Ltd. using video-compression technologies licensed by On2 Technologies, an American company. On the surface, it would seem that EVD's international impact could be huge, because China makes about 60 percent of the world's DVD players, said Vamsi Sistla, senior analyst with Allied Business Intelligence, an Oyster Bay, N.Y.-based research firm. EVD's emergence has not only economic but cultural roots. It is consistent with communist China's broader intentions ? carving out a unique place in the global economy, whose standards it complains have been defined by the West. As it moves further from its planned-economy roots and deeper into its market-oriented experiment, China has made a point of saying it wants to develop Chinese answers to modern problems. EVD fits that goal. The Communist Party newspaper People's Daily said last month that EVD will let domestic disc-player manufacturers "shake off their previous dependence on foreign technologies."

Good lord!

You don't mean to say that China will go from using an media format <STRONG>developed </STRONG>by America, to a media format <STRONG>licensed</STRONG> from America?

The sky is falling!

Dave Always thinks the sky is falling.

I think he is now posting from a Compound in Northern Idaho

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Gaard Everybody calm down. It's just sabre rattling.

Oh yea? 11-19-2003 China moves to rid itself dependence on foreign technologies Seeking to compete on its own terms in the lucrative entertainment industry, China announced a government-funded project Tuesday to promote an alternative to DVDs and "attack the market share" of the global video format. EVD would give Chinese manufacturers and technology consortiums a homegrown platform to sell and build on. It also is aimed at relieving Chinese DVD producers from paying licensing fees to the companies that hold patents to the DVD format. A spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America did not immediately return a message seeking comment. Research on EVD began in 1999. It was developed by a company called Beijing E-World Technology Co. Ltd. using video-compression technologies licensed by On2 Technologies, an American company. On the surface, it would seem that EVD's international impact could be huge, because China makes about 60 percent of the world's DVD players, said Vamsi Sistla, senior analyst with Allied Business Intelligence, an Oyster Bay, N.Y.-based research firm. EVD's emergence has not only economic but cultural roots. It is consistent with communist China's broader intentions ? carving out a unique place in the global economy, whose standards it complains have been defined by the West. As it moves further from its planned-economy roots and deeper into its market-oriented experiment, China has made a point of saying it wants to develop Chinese answers to modern problems. EVD fits that goal. The Communist Party newspaper People's Daily said last month that EVD will let domestic disc-player manufacturers "shake off their previous dependence on foreign technologies."

Good lord!

You don't mean to say that China will go from using an media format <STRONG>developed </STRONG>by America, to a media format <STRONG>licensed</STRONG> from America?

The sky is falling!

Dave Always thinks the sky is falling.

I haven't said it, yet

 

[Witling]

Zebo, with respect the the Chinese government, you didn't answer my question. They may well be the baddest (whoops, I mean "most evil" in Bushese) dudes to ever walk the valley. So why didin't we go after them? That's the question you didn't answer. Instead of "freeing" 23 million, we could have freed 750 million. OK, Zebo, let's concentrate on the question this time.

Why didn't we free China if they're the badest dudes in the valley.

Answer. We needed some one we could knock over without a lot of work. The twits running the government thought we'd be welcomed with flowers in Iraq. Close, but no cigar.

Now, Zebo, I know the previous sentence must have distracted you from the question. So, the question is,

Why didn't we free China if they're the badest dudes in the valley.

 

[Moonbeam]

Why didn't we free China if they're the badest dudes in the valley.

I wanna know too cause they got lots of peanut oil.

 

[Mrburns2007]

In 1895, military defeat forced China to cede Taiwan to Japan. It reverted to Chinese control after World War II. Following the Communist victory on the mainland in 1949, 2 million Nationalists fled to Taiwan and established a government using the 1947 constitution drawn up for all of China. Over the next five decades, the ruling authorities gradually democratized and incorporated the native population within the governing structure. In 2000, Taiwan underwent its first peaceful transfer of power from the Nationalist to the Democratic Progressive Party. Throughout this period, the island prospered and became one of East Asia's economic "Tigers." The dominant political issues continue to be the relationship between Taiwan and China - specifically the question of eventual unification - as well as domestic political and economic reform.

More: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tw.html

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Gaard Everybody calm down. It's just sabre rattling.

Oh yea? 11-19-2003 China moves to rid itself dependence on foreign technologies Seeking to compete on its own terms in the lucrative entertainment industry, China announced a government-funded project Tuesday to promote an alternative to DVDs and "attack the market share" of the global video format. EVD would give Chinese manufacturers and technology consortiums a homegrown platform to sell and build on. It also is aimed at relieving Chinese DVD producers from paying licensing fees to the companies that hold patents to the DVD format. A spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America did not immediately return a message seeking comment. Research on EVD began in 1999. It was developed by a company called Beijing E-World Technology Co. Ltd. using video-compression technologies licensed by On2 Technologies, an American company. On the surface, it would seem that EVD's international impact could be huge, because China makes about 60 percent of the world's DVD players, said Vamsi Sistla, senior analyst with Allied Business Intelligence, an Oyster Bay, N.Y.-based research firm. EVD's emergence has not only economic but cultural roots. It is consistent with communist China's broader intentions ? carving out a unique place in the global economy, whose standards it complains have been defined by the West. As it moves further from its planned-economy roots and deeper into its market-oriented experiment, China has made a point of saying it wants to develop Chinese answers to modern problems. EVD fits that goal. The Communist Party newspaper People's Daily said last month that EVD will let domestic disc-player manufacturers "shake off their previous dependence on foreign technologies."

Good lord!

You don't mean to say that China will go from using an media format <STRONG>developed </STRONG>by America, to a media format <STRONG>licensed</STRONG> from America?

The sky is falling!

Actually it's made by Philips, a company from the Netherlands Might have been developed in the US or anywhere else

 

[Shad0hawK]

china does have a HUGE army, but they have to get them over here first, and when it comes to the war in the air and sea, china stands no chance.

besides, we have fought them before and won.

 

[kitkit201]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
besides, we have fought them before and won.

When did China ever come fought with the US? You it got it wrong man..

 

[GrGr]

China is the US' biggest competitor when it comes to military spending. However the Chinese military budget is only about one tenth of what the US spends on its military. The latest budget increase for Pentagon was larger than the entire Chinese military budget. Now what does that tell you?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Whitling
Zebo, with respect the the Chinese government, you didn't answer my question. They may well be the baddest (whoops, I mean "most evil" in Bushese) dudes to ever walk the valley. So why didin't we go after them? That's the question you didn't answer. Instead of "freeing" 23 million, we could have freed 750 million. OK, Zebo, let's concentrate on the question this time.

Why didn't we free China if they're the badest dudes in the valley.

Answer. We needed some one we could knock over without a lot of work. The twits running the government thought we'd be welcomed with flowers in Iraq. Close, but no cigar.

Now, Zebo, I know the previous sentence must have distracted you from the question. So, the question is,

Why didn't we free China if they're the badest dudes in the valley.

i did too.

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Whitling
Zeb, if it's the worst regime ever, why didn't we free them first?

Billions in sales and profits to very politically influential US corps, a naive hope we can bribe them into western reforms, and it's not exactly a painless misson. See Veitnam. But gets worse every year.

Everyone should read this book by state department insiders...talks about how they fund, provides parts, and supervison of Iraq?s, Iran?s, North Korea?s and Pakistan?s nuclear programs. They are the REAL axis of EVIL and we are headed on a collision course.

 

[dpm]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Actually it's made by Philips, a company from the Netherlands Might have been developed in the US or anywhere else

Damn, even as I typed, I knew I should have looked that one up

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
china does have a HUGE army, but they have to get them over here first, and when it comes to the war in the air and sea, china stands no chance.

besides, we have fought them before and won.

dont know if you have been following the news lately but the thing is China wants Taiwan back, US wants to back up Taiwan while mantaining positive relations with china so in all this hoppla I dont see anything relating to china invading the US

 

[CaptnKirk]

Both in Korea AND in Viet Nam there were Chinese Army regulars killed in battle
while attendimg to overseeing and advising the North Korean Army in the 50's and
again with the North Vietnamese Regular Army from the mid 60's through the early 70's.

Little difference in the fact that we lost troops in adviser capacities to the Viet Minh
while assisting the French in the early to mid 50's in their Indo-China campaign.

How do you handle a country where if they lost 20 million to a war it would be
immdeiatly offset by the countries birthrate. They would look at that level of
personell loss as if it was a form of birth control (statistically).

It's always been said that if you were to line them up in rank and file 50 wide
and run them into the ocean as fast as they could run - the line would never end.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Both in Korea AND in Viet Nam there were Chinese Army regulars killed in battle
while attendimg to overseeing and advising the North Korean Army in the 50's and
again with the North Vietnamese Regular Army from the mid 60's through the early 70's.

Little difference in the fact that we lost troops in adviser capacities to the Viet Minh
while assisting the French in the early to mid 50's in their Indo-China campaign.

How do you handle a country where if they lost 20 million to a war it would be
immdeiatly offset by the countries birthrate. They would look at that level of
personell loss as if it was a form of birth control (statistically).

It's always been said that if you were to line them up in rank and file 50 wide
and run them into the ocean as fast as they could run - the line would never end.

Yeah but running into the ocean is china's most effective way to get to the US so I don't think there much of a threat.

 

[Zebo]

How do you handle a country where if they lost 20 million to a war it would be
immdeiatly offset by the countries birthrate. They would look at that level of
personell loss as if it was a form of birth control (statistically).


In Red Dragon Rising, they talk about what must be done in order to stop Chinas direct challenge and threat to the United States. 1. stop funding them (ie end trade...and "encourage" all others including our new friend russia to do the same 2. Seriously Develop anti-ballistic-missle defense to the tune of 150 billion a year. The roiting in the streets in China cause of loss of dollars and euros could cause governement to collapse or at least implement serious democratic reforms. Or they could crack down even harder if that's possible.. They think this "constuctive engagement" and trade for the last 25 years is a paradox. On one hand you have more leverage over them because thier populus is getting used to the "good" life and we have the capability to influence it..however we are also addicted to cheap products and black balance sheets at the corporate level... on the other we are enableing them to build up, arm others and pose a real threat to our dominance.

 

[Imdmn04]

u seem not to realize that it is in our interest to keep things on a status quo, no wars, but with enough tension, so we can make good money off selling weapons to taiwan.

What led you to believe that? Funny, I don't recall saying anything to that effect. Care to share?

if you are really naive enough to believe that U.S. will back taiwan up for the sole purpose of protecting the taiwanese's freedom, then you are in for a rude awakening. every country has a motive to do anything, the war in iraq was for oil, though as much as they want u to believe it is for the peace of the world, it is not. France opposed not because they loved the iraqi people, but because they had business deals going on with iraq.

in this case, there is nothing to gain for U.S. if we backed taiwan, we do a lot more trades with china than taiwan. im sorry, everybody is selfish in this world and everybody has their own agenda, if there are more economical benefits siding with china than siding with taiwan, U.S. will do it in a heartbeat.

 

[LunarRay]

Maybe the President does converse with God on matters now and then.. from the East toward Israel... into the Euphrates... hmmm Gog and Magog.. meet the the army of the east... And us ... why we're smack dab right in the middle of it. Party time ... its gonna be Armageddon. Oh... in the event... I suddenly quit posting ... Au Revoir!

 

[EXman]

Actually India and Pakistan and North korea are just as big of threats.

But Tawian does buy a helluva lot of Destroyers subs and other military hardware from us.

man I want to keep tawainese making those great Mobo's for my hardware addiction.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Maybe the President does converse with God on matters now and then.. from the East toward Israel... into the Euphrates... hmmm Gog and Magog.. meet the the army of the east... And us ... why we're smack dab right in the middle of it. Party time ... its gonna be Armageddon. Oh... in the event... I suddenly quit posting ... Au Revoir!

thats an interesting take on events.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: EXman
Actually India and Pakistan and North korea are just as big of threats.

But Tawian does buy a helluva lot of Destroyers subs and other military hardware from us.

man I want to keep tawainese making those great Mobo's for my hardware addiction.

Why do you think of India as a threat? I thought we were growing allies with them. Even Pakistan isn't really a threat... except if they become unstable and the current leader gets replaced by a threat.

 

[Nocturnal]

There goes ram prices, skyrocketing, again!

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Actually it's made by Philips, a company from the Netherlands Might have been developed in the US or anywhere else

Damn, even as I typed, I knew I should have looked that one up

That's ok It would be an easy thing to mistake. Plus, maybe the actual playing of the DVD probably requires like a bazillion other patents from several other companies. A finished product usually has several of other company's patents.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Maybe the President does converse with God on matters now and then.. from the East toward Israel... into the Euphrates... hmmm Gog and Magog.. meet the the army of the east... And us ... why we're smack dab right in the middle of it. Party time ... its gonna be Armageddon. Oh... in the event... I suddenly quit posting ... Au Revoir!

thats an interesting take on events.

The Fig tree is Israel.. and before this generation (40 years) shall pass... Israel won back Jerusalem in June 1967.. by that reconing It has to occur before '07. Wars and talk of wars.. all we do any more is war. But, what do I know.. As long as China just invades Taiwan fine.. but, if they should sorta wonder toward Kashmir... well.. we'll see won't we.

edit to drop an 'e'