WTF McDonald a $1 for lettuce and $0.50 for sauce?

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Zeze

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I really don't understand the outrage.

You all work in a corp yes? Do you know how much they charge their clients for YOUR work? Absolutely disgusting vs how much you're paid.
 
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I never knew it but pizza is the biggest rip off known to man. My wife has been making homemade pizza lately and it's crazy how cheap it is to make. We make huge pizzas with like 6 toppings of quality cheeses and meats for almost nothing. A single pizza like what we make would cost you $15 at least and I know they aren't using Kraft cheese and 93% lean beef and not nearly as much either. It probably costs us a few dollars at most. Then I start to think about how thin the crust is and how sparse the toppings are at the local pizza place and it's insane. It wouldn't surprise me if it costs them $1 to make a pizza they'd sell for $10.
 

Kantastic

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I never knew it but pizza is the biggest rip off known to man. My wife has been making homemade pizza lately and it's crazy how cheap it is to make. We make huge pizzas with like 6 toppings of quality cheeses and meats for almost nothing. A single pizza like what we make would cost you $15 at least and I know they aren't using Kraft cheese and 93% lean beef and not nearly as much either. It probably costs us a few dollars at most. Then I start to think about how thin the crust is and how sparse the toppings are at the local pizza place and it's insane. It wouldn't surprise me if it costs them $1 to make a pizza they'd sell for $10.

Kraft cheese is hardly quality, and my local joints use locally bought mozzarella made fresh daily, meaning (however slightly) less processing and fewer preservatives. As for the amount of crap they load on top, Chef John from Food Wishes once said, pizza is a practice of restraint.

I admit though, pizza ingredients are dirt cheap, but the gas/electricity it would cost to preheat & bake a pie for 25-30 minutes at 500 degrees (longer if you want a crispier crust) makes homemade pizza less appealing.

I don't know what the gig is with your McDs, but I've asked for Mac sauce at a few locations in the middle of Manhattan, and the standard charge is 19 or 29 cents. It's still free at a lot of other locations, the 3 near my house all are.
 

0roo0roo

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well i doubt oilfieldtrash has the sweet ass ovens they use for pizza, you aren't paying for the materials, its the equipment and convenience.

frenchfries material cost is dirt cheap as well, but frying up sh*t is a pain in the neck
 

alkemyst

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Kraft cheese is hardly quality, and my local joints use locally bought mozzarella made fresh daily, meaning (however slightly) less processing and fewer preservatives. As for the amount of crap they load on top, Chef John from Food Wishes once said, pizza is a practice of restraint.

I admit though, pizza ingredients are dirt cheap, but the gas/electricity it would cost to preheat & bake a pie for 25-30 minutes at 500 degrees (longer if you want a crispier crust) makes homemade pizza less appealing.

I don't know what the gig is with your McDs, but I've asked for Mac sauce at a few locations in the middle of Manhattan, and the standard charge is 19 or 29 cents. It's still free at a lot of other locations, the 3 near my house all are.

Actually making a good pizza, the ingredients are not cheap.
 

JS80

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Kraft cheese is hardly quality, and my local joints use locally bought mozzarella made fresh daily, meaning (however slightly) less processing and fewer preservatives. As for the amount of crap they load on top, Chef John from Food Wishes once said, pizza is a practice of restraint.

I admit though, pizza ingredients are dirt cheap, but the gas/electricity it would cost to preheat & bake a pie for 25-30 minutes at 500 degrees (longer if you want a crispier crust) makes homemade pizza less appealing.

I don't know what the gig is with your McDs, but I've asked for Mac sauce at a few locations in the middle of Manhattan, and the standard charge is 19 or 29 cents. It's still free at a lot of other locations, the 3 near my house all are.

lol...do you also enjoy the labor you put into the pizza, the subpar crap that comes out with the shitty ingredients and oven you used, and cleaning up the ginormous mess it leaves? Well worth the dinky $10 you pay a pizza shop.
 

Joseph F

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I never knew it but pizza is the biggest rip off known to man. My wife has been making homemade pizza lately and it's crazy how cheap it is to make. We make huge pizzas with like 6 toppings of quality cheeses and meats for almost nothing. A single pizza like what we make would cost you $15 at least and I know they aren't using Kraft cheese and 93% lean beef and not nearly as much either. It probably costs us a few dollars at most. Then I start to think about how thin the crust is and how sparse the toppings are at the local pizza place and it's insane. It wouldn't surprise me if it costs them $1 to make a pizza they'd sell for $10.

Implying that Kraft cheese is of quality. ROFL
 

sjwaste

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Actually making a good pizza, the ingredients are not cheap.

Yeah they are, relatively speaking. Even if you're using imported caputo flour (or King Arthur organic), san marzano tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella, it's still pretty cheap to do at home. $5-7 in ingredients.

Pizza gets expensive when you decide to build the oven :)
 

waggy

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I love makeing pizza at home. though i need to get a good deep dish pizza pan. yes its a mess and it cost almost as much as a restaurant. but its fun to make with the kids.
 

Fern

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I never knew it but pizza is the biggest rip off known to man. My wife has been making homemade pizza lately and it's crazy how cheap it is to make. We make huge pizzas with like 6 toppings of quality cheeses and meats for almost nothing. A single pizza like what we make would cost you $15 at least and I know they aren't using Kraft cheese and 93% lean beef and not nearly as much either. It probably costs us a few dollars at most. Then I start to think about how thin the crust is and how sparse the toppings are at the local pizza place and it's insane. It wouldn't surprise me if it costs them $1 to make a pizza they'd sell for $10.

Close. Probably closer to $1.50-$1.80.

Cost of Goods Sold (an accounting term for the cost of materials in the product) or food costs for Pizza and subs is about 15-18%. (Gross) profit margin is about 85%. Pasta dishes are similar.

On average food costs for restaurants is about 28-35%. 35% is definitely on the high side and many would have no profit or go out of business.

OTOH, restaurants get their ingredients cheaper than most of us because they buy in large quantities that are bulk packaged.

Edit: The 15-18% number are pizza franchises.

Fern
 
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alkemyst

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I love makeing pizza at home. though i need to get a good deep dish pizza pan. yes its a mess and it cost almost as much as a restaurant. but its fun to make with the kids.

head up to WalMart bro, pizza pan profit!
 

Howard

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lol

Isn't it basically a slightly tweaked (if at all) Thousand Island dressing?

or some such.

I don't do big macs. I'd remove half the shit and then it wouldn't be worth the price. :p

I hate shit on my hamburgers. Cheese, ketchup, sometimes mayo, and that's it. The cheese can vary, bleu cheese is the best on most occasions. :D

Don't go throwing some leafy shit and various garden products on my slab of dead animal on a bun. Ruins the best part of the sandwich (dead cow flavor).
Well that, and I can't stand the taste of lettuce and tomatoes and onions and pickles.
http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2011/05/the-burger-lab-building-a-better-big-mac.html
 

alkemyst

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Yeah they are, relatively speaking. Even if you're using imported caputo flour (or King Arthur organic), san marzano tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella, it's still pretty cheap to do at home. $5-7 in ingredients.

Pizza gets expensive when you decide to build the oven :)

You can only use that $5-7 dollars if you are making pizza regularly.

For most out there many of the ingredients will go bad.

How much would your order cost you making just a single pizza out of it then throwing the ingredients away?
 

Fern

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They're not stupid. What you are doing IS turning into Big Mac. It's same patties and buns.

Yeah.

Might as well order a small coke and ask them to put it in a large cup.

Fern
 

sjwaste

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You can only use that $5-7 dollars if you are making pizza regularly.

For most out there many of the ingredients will go bad.

How much would your order cost you making just a single pizza out of it then throwing the ingredients away?

The same, as a practical matter. The flour is obviously going to hold up for a while. Buffalo mozzarella usually comes in small quantities to begin with, and San Marzano tomatoes come in a can or a jar - you can always vac 'em back up.

The bigger question is, who wastes such good ingredients? The cheese is good on its own, and the tomatoes would be great for pasta. Anyone buying that stuff and letting it go bad shouldn't be buying it in the first place. If you care at all about food, that's excellent stuff.

But if you want a literal answer, closer to $10.
 

Joseph F

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Kraft makes decent cheese. It's a good store brand. Some people don't want to spend the money on boutique cheese for a pizza.

The only Kraft cheese I've ever had was total and utter shit.
I prefer even the local "Shur Fine" American cheese to Kraft's.
 

lxskllr

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The only Kraft cheese I've ever had was total and utter shit.
I prefer even the local "Shur Fine" American cheese to Kraft's.

If you're talking about singles, then I agree. American singles of any brand can barely be called cheese. They're just an ersatz cheddar made for convenience, and not flavor.