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WTF Losing my job due to restructuring a few weeks after I got hired

MrMatt

Banned
So the last several months I go through this long draining soul-crushing job search, and finally land a job at this organization, as a Mental Health Counselor. I started on March 16th. It pays good, the benefits are great, the paid trainings are nice, and the work atmosphere is great. It's easily my favorite job I've had.

Now, I live in MA and our governor is a flaming retard. Our state has somehow managed to go almost as broke as California. As such there's been state budgets cuts, etc. 2 weeks ago we have an office meeting, and find out we lost contracts with the department of mental health for covering a different part of the state. Our boss says not to worry, that our jobs are pretty much safe, and that our division may even be expanding to pick up the slack. Everyone breathes a sigh of relief.

Fast forward to yesterday, I get a letter in the mail saying that I'm out of a job as of July 1st. The other new worker got this letter to. So did the assistant program director. Now I'm just curious...who hires people when they're shearing the company in half?? There's even still jobs posted on their website. They say that the position they are most in need of is....Mental Health Counselor. WTF? No it's not. you're letting half of them go.

And why did they bother with all this training I got if they're just going to dump me? I also feel bad for the people I work with, they're mentally ill and most have abandonment / trust / attachment issues. They just got transferred from other counselors to me, so they're still uneasy...and now they're going to have to do it again in a month or two. This blows. I thought for once something was working out for me in my career field. 🙁




Epilogue:

For giggles, here's the beginning of the letter, I love how they worded it.


As you are aware, [Business Name] recently participated in the DMH reprocurement process and we are please that we have been awarded the contract to continue operating the services where your program is located. As part of the reprocurement, DMH made a number of changes to the mental health residential services model. These changes will have a significant impact on our services and staffing. Therefore, your position will be significantly changed effective July 1, 2009. You will need to apply for and transfer to a new position to continue your employment at [Business Name. We want you to understand that this outcome is in no way reflective of the quality and importance of the program and your valuable contribution


I love the 'significant changes on July 1st'. Yeah there are changes. The job's evaporating. I can put in for a transfer to another branch, but who the heck knows if A) I could get a job close by, this branch I'm at is the only one remotely close to where I live B) I could even GET one of these other open jobs and C) If that job wouldn't evaporate either.


Not good times.



UPDATE: So the division director came in yesterday. Apparently he wasn't originally but since my program was at near riot status (even people not losing their jobs are pissed) he decided to come in and explain everything. I sat and listened: They're trying to streamline the program and make it so that many different departments have input into the behavioral/treatment plan for clients. That doesn't sound too bad up to that point. Then he explains that the actual therapists/counselors don't have as much (I think that actually means ANY) input into the treatment plan they're implementing with clients. Odd. He also then explains that since our program has both in-house and outreach clients (some of our clients live in the residence I work at, others in the surrounding community) it is being split into two completely different programs. Seems like that just creates a shitload of unnecessary overhead to me.

Then we get to the juicy part. I ask him point-blank: Why were we (me and other coworker at program) hired when there was the possiblity our jobs would evaporate. He says, "well we didn't know what the state would accept as far our restructuring plan, etc.".

Me: "Right, ok....one other thing, what was the timeline for all this?"

Him: "Well we started planning this in December and submitted a final proposal in early February"

Me: "So the plan you submitted in February had these two jobs being eliminated."

Him: "Unfortunately yes"

Me: So why was there a job ad for this position which I answered in late February. You were interviewing and hiring for a job you knew would be eliminated in a few months. On top of that I was pitched on how stable this job would be and how steady it is"

Him: Well that is unfortunate it might be a thing where one hand doesn't know what the other was doing. H.R. was supposed to tell you guys that there was recontracting and that it could effect jobs.

Me: I was told nothing, nor was my coworker, the only thing we heard about recontracting was that it wouldn't effect us. I turned down several other job offers to come here, entrance into a master's program, and left another temp job that ironically would've lasted past my last day here. Now one month in I already know the day I''m being laid off

Him: Well you're not being laid off, nobody is losing their jobs. There's other jobs being created.

Me: I have a job here as a mental health counselor. This is the job I applied for and wanted, and received. This job is evaporating. If I wasn't losing my job you wouldn't have mailed out 'how to find work at outside agencies' as part of my lay-off packet. I am losing my job. You can't just say no one's losing their job because other jobs are being created; I'm not even qualified for half of them, and most of the others are over 40 miles away from me. There's not even a guarantee I would get any of them even if I applied. When someone applies for a job it's usually because the parameters of that job meet what they're looking for. You're taking that job away, creating other jobs that don't match those parameters and claiming it's a wash.

Him: Well....yeah.

At that point the conversation was pretty much over, he got up & left, and basically the entire staff except one person said they're probably leaving before July 1st anyway, so maybe there will still be a job for me lol.
 
Wow that really sucks. I feel sorry for anyone without a job these days. It's next to impossible to get in anywhere with all these budget cuts, hire freezes, etc.
 
Sorry man I'm in a similar situation but not so bad yet. I just started after a long job search and after a little over a month the company is being sold. I hope I find out after next week if I still have a job. I am the most expendeble out of everyone in the company.

Then again my pay is shit and benefits are nil so I'm looking forward to the chance of more responsibility, up to now I have not had a boss or anyone who really gave a shit about my work since the owner never shows up.
 
Originally posted by: Farang
Sorry man I'm in a similar situation but not so bad yet. I just started after a long job search and after a little over a month the company is being sold. I hope I find out after next week if I still have a job. I am the most expendeble out of everyone in the company.

Then again my pay is shit and benefits are nil so I'm looking forward to the chance of more responsibility, up to now I have not had a boss or anyone who really gave a shit about my work since the owner never shows up.

wow....


Not knowing is awful isn't it
 
I'm in a similar situation at my new position Matt. I hired on in Sept. of 2008 and received a major relocation package to get to NY from TX. Now they are cutting 4 heads and mine could be the first to go if 4 others don't voluntarily choose to leave. Management has offered lucrative voluntary severance packages that should allow for as many 6 or 7 older employees to retire early. I can only hope at least 4 choose to do so.
 
So are you gonna counsel yourself now?


I kid. I kid!

That's too bad man. I hope you land another one soon. I know how it feels to land one after a painfully long wait but now how it feels when you lose it right after. You can either let it be a serious blow to your self-esteem or pick yourself up and go at it again.
 
That sucks. Well, at least you have a 2 month warning.

Any chance you can start your own counselling place, or volunteer/very low pay with a non-profit?
 
Last to hire, first to fire. 🙁

Bummer dude, g'luck in the transfer/looking for a new job. Shitty situation.


Typo! 🙁
 
Sounds liek they are giving you and others a chance to "transfer to a new job". What they are saying is "we are demoting a bunch of people" in order to keep everyone employed if possible.
 
A company down the street from my place, where someone I know was working, got a phone call one morning and everyone in the entire building, including upper management, was given a surprise "you have 1 hour to get your personal things and clear the building" notice. Nobody knew it was coming. One hour.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
A company down the street from my place, where someone I know was working, got a phone call one morning and everyone in the entire building, including upper management, was given a surprise "you have 1 hour to get your personal things and clear the building" notice. Nobody knew it was coming. One hour.

iirc there was a story recently about an asian company that held a fiire drill, and when everyone was outside, announced that there were layoffs and that if your entry code for the building still worked, thats how you knew you still had a job.

 
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Nik
A company down the street from my place, where someone I know was working, got a phone call one morning and everyone in the entire building, including upper management, was given a surprise "you have 1 hour to get your personal things and clear the building" notice. Nobody knew it was coming. One hour.

iirc there was a story recently about an asian company that held a fiire drill, and when everyone was outside, announced that there were layoffs and that if your entry code for the building still worked, thats how you knew you still had a job.

Dayum.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
A company down the street from my place, where someone I know was working, got a phone call one morning and everyone in the entire building, including upper management, was given a surprise "you have 1 hour to get your personal things and clear the building" notice. Nobody knew it was coming. One hour.

What if they don't all leave before the one hour is up? Have upper management kick people out?

I'd steal the stapler at the very least if I had to experience that.
 
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Nik
A company down the street from my place, where someone I know was working, got a phone call one morning and everyone in the entire building, including upper management, was given a surprise "you have 1 hour to get your personal things and clear the building" notice. Nobody knew it was coming. One hour.

iirc there was a story recently about an asian company that held a fiire drill, and when everyone was outside, announced that there were layoffs and that if your entry code for the building still worked, thats how you knew you still had a job.

I hope that is fake. Otherwise that company should be nuked...from orbit.
 
some chick that works for an affiliate spent $8k to move out of state for a new position (she was asked by the company)...2 weeks later they let her know they wouldn't need her anymore.

She's in a mess now.

I don't get how a company couldn't know that the position may dry up in only days.
 
Originally posted by: Finalnight
Originally posted by: xSauronx
iirc there was a story recently about an asian company that held a fiire drill, and when everyone was outside, announced that there were layoffs and that if your entry code for the building still worked, thats how you knew you still had a job.

I hope that is fake. Otherwise that company should be nuked...from orbit.

It is. Although if you read through the snopes article, there have been a couple of frighteningly similar incidents that did occur.

 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
some chick that works for an affiliate spent $8k to move out of state for a new position (she was asked by the company)...2 weeks later they let her know they wouldn't need her anymore.

She's in a mess now.

I don't get how a company couldn't know that the position may dry up in only days.

Pretty easy really. Companies that have too many eggs in one basket or that otherwise have a single company representing a substantial portion of their revenue (say > 20%) are subject to this. The client decides to cut work and people have to go.
 
I sort of worry thats about to happen to the new guys here. We were hiring for along time and everyone was working 60hr weeks, then suddenly there cut the overtime and there is a hiring freeze, and talk of cutting staff 10%, and several people actually QUIT good jobs elsewhere to come here and now might lose their job after a month.

This is why I have been playing it cheap recently, trying to save money in case were end up losing our jobs, and working extra unpaid to try to avoid being the one to go. It REALLY sux thouhg for people who work in businesses where merit isn't retarded as much and you can lose your job no matter how good you are doing. At least where I work even if the job dies they will send the best people somewhere else.
 
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: alkemyst
some chick that works for an affiliate spent $8k to move out of state for a new position (she was asked by the company)...2 weeks later they let her know they wouldn't need her anymore.

She's in a mess now.

I don't get how a company couldn't know that the position may dry up in only days.

Pretty easy really. Companies that have too many eggs in one basket or that otherwise have a single company representing a substantial portion of their revenue (say > 20%) are subject to this. The client decides to cut work and people have to go.

It was more of they simply decided to close that office. Really can't go into much more detail.
 
I like how they worded it: "In order to keep working with us you'll have to find a new job somewhere else in the company."
 
Originally posted by: arcenite
I do not understand what the problem is. Apply for a transfer.

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Sounds liek they are giving you and others a chance to "transfer to a new job". What they are saying is "we are demoting a bunch of people" in order to keep everyone employed if possible.

Pretty much. The thing is if they're cutting people, how are they going to hire me for another one of these positions? I mean if there's one close enough by, I'll try to transfer...but how do I know this doesn't happen again?
 


Originally posted by: silverpig
I like how they worded it: "In order to keep working with us you'll have to find a new job somewhere else in the company."

LOL i know, isn't that ALWAYS true? Barring the company shutting down.
 
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