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WTF Losing my job due to restructuring a few weeks after I got hired

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DrawninwarD

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Government job :D

Actually I'm just a co-op student. Exactly two weeks from now, I'll be sitting in class taking notes. But I still want to mention that co-op students from universities are also getting screwed. A lot of companies are thinking that they can do without a co-op student for the next couple of years.
 

Gibson486

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Yup...Deval is retarded. He has no idea what he doing. I swear...teh guy does want to be re-elected.

Yes...let cut down on jobs on the pike to fix the budget and have everybody not use the pike anymore because now it takes 1 hour to do 40 minutes worth of traveling.
 

Koing

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Thats brutal man :( I hope have better look at your next place mate.

Koing
 

MrMatt

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Originally posted by: Koing
Thats brutal man :( I hope have better look at your next place mate.

Koing

thanks man...crap like this really ruins all other aspects of my life. It invades my thoughts at the gym, or when I'm out with friends, or trying to hang out with my gf. This job I'm at, instead of being something on my career path, has turned into just a glorified dead end temp job where I'll be kicked aside in a couple months. :(


Originally posted by: Gibson486
Yup...Deval is retarded. He has no idea what he doing. I swear...teh guy does want to be re-elected.

Yes...let cut down on jobs on the pike to fix the budget and have everybody not use the pike anymore because now it takes 1 hour to do 40 minutes worth of traveling.

Yeah seriously, To get by exit 14 it now takes over an hour and a half to get from 1 mile away from the plaza to the actual toll plaza. Really deval? That's your budget solution? Save 15,000/yr by laying that guy off and ruining everyone's commute?
 

JS80

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Any other accountants out there notice how they lay off July 1 so they can extend the severance expense in to July?
 

malbojah

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Look at it this way MrMatt, you won't get stuck on the Pike for the 4th of July traffic nightmare that they've already admitted they're going to cause
 

alkalinetaupehat

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Finalnight
Originally posted by: xSauronx
iirc there was a story recently about an asian company that held a fiire drill, and when everyone was outside, announced that there were layoffs and that if your entry code for the building still worked, thats how you knew you still had a job.

I hope that is fake. Otherwise that company should be nuked...from orbit.

It is. Although if you read through the snopes article, there have been a couple of frighteningly similar incidents that did occur.

I lived in Mission Viejo when this happened. Trying to remember bits of it but I wasn't too old then.
 

ChaoZ

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
some chick that works for an affiliate spent $8k to move out of state for a new position (she was asked by the company)...2 weeks later they let her know they wouldn't need her anymore.

She's in a mess now.

I don't get how a company couldn't know that the position may dry up in only days.

Did the company pay or did she? If it's the latter that's royally fucked up.
 

CorCentral

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All I can say is sorry for your loss. My family is fealing it too.

For anyone reading this........... Restructruring means hiring the same people for less money, Plain and Simple!

Sucks ass!



I'm not going to say a thing (read my mind).
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
All I can say is sorry for your loss. My family is fealing it too.

For anyone reading this........... Restructruring means hiring the same people for less money, Plain and Simple!

Sucks ass!



I'm not going to say a thing (read my mind).

I worked in an Insolvency/Restructuring office for two months, and never really understood the restructuring part. As far as I knew, they still filed for creditors protection, but the government or trustee guaranteed payment to certain creditors for providing services/goods during the process. Meanwhile, they cut staff, get someone to buy them out, or change their business model.

I mainly dealt with the insolvency part though. Hearing the insider information was fun.
 

Chronoshock

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PC corporate speak like that letter pisses me off, who starts off a "you lost your job" letter with a sentence containing "pleased"?

I'd love to see a letter that's to the point "Your job is fucking GONE. Sorry."

Best of luck OP, are you getting any severance?
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: Nik
A company down the street from my place, where someone I know was working, got a phone call one morning and everyone in the entire building, including upper management, was given a surprise "you have 1 hour to get your personal things and clear the building" notice. Nobody knew it was coming. One hour.



They can be sued for that kind of crap. (Google the WARN Act )
YOUR RIGHTS UNDER WARN You must receive a written notice 60 days before the date of a mass layoff or plant closing if you meet the conditions discussed in this brochure. If your employer does not give you the required notice, you may be able to seek damages for back pay and benefits for up to 60 days, depending on how many days? notice you actually received.
 

Lazy8s

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Damn dude. I am surprised you aren't protected under a new hire program. This is why I said no to any job that didn't pay for relocation...
 

MrMatt

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Originally posted by: malbojah
Look at it this way MrMatt, you won't get stuck on the Pike for the 4th of July traffic nightmare that they've already admitted they're going to cause

:)



Originally posted by: JS80
Any other accountants out there notice how they lay off July 1 so they can extend the severance expense in to July?

hadn't even thought of that! Good point
 

MrMatt

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UPDATE: So the division director came in yesterday. Apparently he wasn't originally but since my program was at near riot status (even people not losing their jobs are pissed) he decided to come in and explain everything. I sat and listened: They're trying to streamline the program and make it so that many different departments have input into the behavioral/treatment plan for clients. That doesn't sound too bad up to that point. Then he explains that the actual therapists/counselors don't have as much (I think that actually means ANY) input into the treatment plan they're implementing with clients. Odd. He also then explains that since our program has both in-house and outreach clients (some of our clients live in the residence I work at, others in the surrounding community) it is being split into two completely different programs. Seems like that just creates a shitload of unnecessary overhead to me.

Then we get to the juicy part. I ask him point-blank: Why were we (me and other coworker at program) hired when there was the possiblity our jobs would evaporate. He says, "well we didn't know what the state would accept as far our restructuring plan, etc.".

Me: "Right, ok....one other thing, what was the timeline for all this?"

Him: "Well we started planning this in December and submitted a final proposal in early February"

Me: "So the plan you submitted in February had these two jobs being eliminated."

Him: "Unfortunately yes"

Me: So why was there a job ad for this position which I answered in late February. You were interviewing and hiring for a job you knew would be eliminated in a few months. On top of that I was pitched on how stable this job would be and how steady it is"

Him: Well that is unfortunate it might be a thing where one hand doesn't know what the other was doing. H.R. was supposed to tell you guys that there was recontracting and that it could effect jobs.

Me: I was told nothing, nor was my coworker, the only thing we heard about recontracting was that it wouldn't effect us. I turned down several other job offers to come here, entrance into a master's program, and left another temp job that ironically would've lasted past my last day here. Now one month in I already know the day I''m being laid off

Him: Well you're not being laid off, nobody is losing their jobs. There's other jobs being created.

Me: I have a job here as a mental health counselor. This is the job I applied for and wanted, and received. This job is evaporating. If I wasn't losing my job you wouldn't have mailed out 'how to find work at outside agencies' as part of my lay-off packet. I am losing my job. You can't just say no one's losing their job because other jobs are being created; I'm not even qualified for half of them, and most of the others are over 40 miles away from me. There's not even a guarantee I would get any of them even if I applied. When someone applies for a job it's usually because the parameters of that job meet what they're looking for. You're taking that job away, creating other jobs that don't match those parameters and claiming it's a wash.

Him: Well....yeah.

At that point the conversation was pretty much over, he got up & left, and basically the entire staff except one person said they're probably leaving before July 1st anyway, so maybe there will still be a job for me lol.
 

mugs

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I'm usually the last person to say something like this, but that just has to warrant a lawsuit. They lied to you, and it could potentially have a huge negative impact on you financially.
 

MrMatt

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Originally posted by: mugs
I'm usually the last person to say something like this, but that just has to warrant a lawsuit. They lied to you, and it could potentially have a huge negative impact on you financially.

You know I was actually thinking of that. i'm going to call the lawyer referral service in MA. today.
 

Modelworks

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This is a totally stupid thing to do.
Mental health services in every state is already bad enough. Here in NC they cut the psych beds back so far that people are having to travel from Charlotte to the coast to get into a treatment program . Then your company pulls something like what they did.

The politicians better wake up. With people losing jobs, homes and families, they need to increase mental health spending not decrease it. I guess they still don't get it that things like the mass shootings are a direct result of people not having anywhere to turn to.
 

MrMatt

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
This is a totally stupid thing to do.
Mental health services in every state is already bad enough. Here in NC they cut the psych beds back so far that people are having to travel from Charlotte to the coast to get into a treatment program . Then your company pulls something like what they did.

The politicians better wake up. With people losing jobs, homes and families, they need to increase mental health spending not decrease it. I guess they still don't get it that things like the mass shootings are a direct result of people not having anywhere to turn to.

Amen. Completely agree. This is the time to INCREASE that stuff, not decrease it.
 

Genx87

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Classic, just classic. Hire people knowing full well the job is already eliminated. Unfortunately for you, you are back out on the street starting the process over.
 

DayLaPaul

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You said all that to the regional manager? Are you sure you didn't just wish you said it?
 

imported_Imp

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Looks like you got lost in the corporate chain. Good luck finding something else.

At least the Director came down to talk. Chances are he only came to minimize the lawsuits that are about to hit.