WTF is wrong with PETA?

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy
How did they get the blood ?

:evil:

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
While it isn't great that the chickens are mistreated...we're the top of the food chain and the Human race wouldn't be where it is today without meat.

Humans evolved as hunter gathers whose main food source was meat...the large amount of calories that meat afforded us, coupled with the brain size needed to be a successful predator allowed us to evolve into the most intelligent species on earth. Thats why I eat meat. Because I'm suppose too.

And its delicious.

Wow. You don't get it. The meat industry isn't like what it used to be. Yeah, back then man had to hunt down his meat, work for it, and on top of that, the animal was free, and not raised for the purpose of slaughter. Now, that aside, the meat was also much lower in fat. The same goes for deer, elk, moose, and the other wild game. It is much better for you.

 

[Sid59]

PETA = free publicity. no one really cares about PETA.

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Why is it wrong to hand out buckets of blood? Can't your kids handle the truth or do you want them to believe that chicken nuggets grows on vines?

Whats wrong with eating chickens? can't you handle that humans are omnivores?

I eat chickens. Free range ones primarily. This campaign isn't about eating meat. It's about cruelty to the animals. Why is it that I'm not allowed to throw puppies on the sidewalk but cows and chickens can wallow in their own waste?

why is it that when you fly a plane into a building americans don't just throw their arms up and say "You are right we are infadels"

They want to make a point, pull out the PEN.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: michaelh20
It doesn't take too much to realize that most chickens are raised in some pretty horrible circumstances. If peta is wild and outlandish for pointing that out to you then there isn't much to be said.

I'll be over to throw a bucket of dead field mice and rabbit blood at your house shortly. Don't worry - it's just my way of demonstrating the horrid deaths that befall these animals during vegetable harvest season. If that offends you, then there isn't much left to be said.

- M4H

Do you know any numbers, or are you gonna continue using that BS argument like every other ignorant meat eater?

So now every meat eater is ignorant? Oh please shut up before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

Yeah, thats exactly what I said. You suck at comprehension, stay out of this thread.

Many meat eaters have made such an argument, and they are wrong. That is all. Certainly not every meat eater is ignorant, many know the truth, yet they continue to eat meat, and that is fine. However, to say that the animals killed in the harvest of food is anywhere near the magnitude of the animals slaughtered for meat is nothing short of blashphemy.

It's not that I'm "ignorant", it's that it simply doesn't matter to me. I do not care under what circumstances chicken live their lives, so long as the food I eat is free of bacteria and whatnot. I have more important things to worry about in my life.

I never said you were. You admit to not caring, and that is fine. Your opinion is very smiliar to the most popular one held in america. People have so many other things to worry about. Why should they care, right? They just want to be able to pick up 6 chicken breasts for whatever cheap price it is, and move on with their lives. I find it sad, because kids, most of them at least, don't know the truth. If kids saw slaughterhouses, I bet a lot of them would stop eating meat. It almost seems like kids are raised to think the world is such a wonderful place, when in reality, society and civilization in general is quite horrible.

I just wish everyone knew where their meat came from and in what condition the animals were in. Does it matter that pigs are smarter than dogs? No, because people grew up eating ham, why would they stop now?

It is sad.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: PingSpike
While it isn't great that the chickens are mistreated...we're the top of the food chain and the Human race wouldn't be where it is today without meat.

Humans evolved as hunter gathers whose main food source was meat...the large amount of calories that meat afforded us, coupled with the brain size needed to be a successful predator allowed us to evolve into the most intelligent species on earth. Thats why I eat meat. Because I'm suppose too.

And its delicious.

Wow. You don't get it. The meat industry isn't like what it used to be. Yeah, back then man had to hunt down his meat, work for it, and on top of that, the animal was free, and not raised for the purpose of slaughter. Now, that aside, the meat was also much lower in fat. The same goes for deer, elk, moose, and the other wild game. It is much better for you.

No you don't get it! Meat is delicious. (j/k)

I'm well aware that its pretty terrible...I guess I'm from the 'who cares?' camp. I've got a lot of things to worry about...KFC isn't one of them.

Aside from the fact that people just do not have time to hunt for every meal anymore, its pretty much illegal to do so since you can only take a certain number of deer a year. Wild game is good though, bear meat is good. Venison is good. I've eaten enough of it lately I might consider taking up hunting.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: amdfanboy
How did they get the blood ?

:evil:

They just sound so hipocrtical. That or stupid.

 

[Legendary]

Man I want to go up there and take their buckets, then throw that sh!t at them.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: PingSpike
While it isn't great that the chickens are mistreated...we're the top of the food chain and the Human race wouldn't be where it is today without meat.

Humans evolved as hunter gathers whose main food source was meat...the large amount of calories that meat afforded us, coupled with the brain size needed to be a successful predator allowed us to evolve into the most intelligent species on earth. Thats why I eat meat. Because I'm suppose too.

And its delicious.

Wow. You don't get it. The meat industry isn't like what it used to be. Yeah, back then man had to hunt down his meat, work for it, and on top of that, the animal was free, and not raised for the purpose of slaughter. Now, that aside, the meat was also much lower in fat. The same goes for deer, elk, moose, and the other wild game. It is much better for you.

No you don't get it! Meat is delicious. (j/k)

I'm well aware that its pretty terrible...I guess I'm from the 'who cares?' camp. I've got a lot of things to worry about...KFC isn't one of them.

Aside from the fact that people just do not have time to hunt for every meal anymore, its pretty much illegal to do so since you can only take a certain number of deer a year. Wild game is good though, bear meat is good. Venison is good. I've eaten enough of it lately I might consider taking up hunting.

Yeah, the "who cares?" camp is quite large, I almost wish I was still a part of it.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Why doesn't PETA protest zoos? I mean, they have all these meat-eating predators in there.

 

[So]

If I were running KFC, I'd make an offer to give like $.50 off for each of these turned in (Limit one per customer). Seriously, the plastic Colonel Charicature must be expensive, peta couldn't afford to keep that up for long.

 

[tcsenter]

Yeah, true. Animals shouldn't be mistreated. But there isn't anything wrong with killing a chicken for dinner tonight. PETA wants us to go all vegan.

Exactly. If chickens were given private rooms, personal masseuses, and a health spa, it would still constitute animal cruelty in the eyes of PETA because the chickens aren't roaming free in the wild [loaded with parasites, being pounced on by 'natural' predators, dying from injuries, and occassionally starving or freezing to death]. A former PETA director stated on the Dennis Prager Show that predation by all species is morally reprehensible and if it were possible to 'convert' all predator species to vegans, they would support it.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with cruelty to animals and has everything to do with PETA's whackenhut ideological opposition to the human utilization of animals in any way, shape, or form.

 

[Gooberlx2]

PETA = free publicity. no one really cares about PETA.

That's a good point. If anything I only see more people eating at KFC as a result than there normally would be.

The problem with PETA and why this still isn't going to get anyone to listen is that it doesn't really educate or motivate the average Joe into action....it just pisses him off. When someone hands a bucket full of fake blood and guts to someone, my kids no less, that happen to have some fact cards in them....I don't give a flying fvck about the fact cards. I'm taking that bucket away as fast as I can and throwing it back in their moral-elitest faces and possibly b!tch-slapping them....all long before I probably even realized there were "educational" fact cards in the bucket to being with.

 

[StinkyPinky]

As long as the meat is disease free I don't care where it came from. Sucks to be below us in the food chain but that's mother nature for you.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

The problem is PETA's die hard vegetarian stance. Because of that crap, they lose support for preventing cruelty to animals and get comments like this:

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
As long as the meat is disease free I don't care where it came from. Sucks to be below us in the food chain but that's mother nature for you.

 

[Leetman]

The meat and dairy industries today are much more screwed up than PETA is for handing out these buckets. Animals are treated downright horrible. I am a firm believer in what PETA stands for, and while this may seem extreme it really isnt. Children should not be raised to think that eating animals and animal products is right, because in my opinion it isnt, and is a personal choice, not one that should be forced upon children.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but the people saying "now im going to eat KFC all next week" or whatever, are childish and foolish. Some people enjoy animal products, some do not, there is no need to be a dumb@ass about it.

Just realize these animals are treated absolutely terrible before they are slaughtered or drained of all of their energy by some sort of milking machine.

To answer the threads question: It's not whats wrong with PETA, it's whats wrong with the intolerable conditions in the meat and dairy industry today.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
The problem is PETA's die hard vegetarian stance. Because of that crap, they lose support for preventing cruelty to animals and get comments like this:

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
As long as the meat is disease free I don't care where it came from. Sucks to be below us in the food chain but that's mother nature for you.

I have more important things to worry about than a bunch of chickens. I doubt other carnivore animals sit around all day worrying about if their food had a good life or not. If other people find the treatment of chickens unacceptable and want to change it, then I don't care. More power to them. But for me this isn't a priority. I see it as an efficient way of getting meat to the people at a cheap price which is affordable for most families.

 

[clamum]

It amazes me that people can care so little for a living animal... chicken, cattle, cat, dog, all the same. They're more concerned about the goddamn price of the McNuggets. Really sad.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: clamum
It amazes me that people can care so little for a living animal... chicken, cattle, cat, dog, all the same. They're more concerned about the goddamn price of the McNuggets. Really sad.

Nah, what's sad is that human beings would rather buy a $100 pair of Nike shoes than pay an extra $20 to make sure the 3rd world workers get a real wage and live a decent life. Now that's sad to me. Like I said, we all have different priorites in life. If the treatment of fowl bother you, then do something about it.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: clamum
It amazes me that people can care so little for a living animal... chicken, cattle, cat, dog, all the same. They're more concerned about the goddamn price of the McNuggets. Really sad.

Nah, what's sad is that human beings would rather buy a $100 pair of Nike shoes than pay an extra $20 to make sure the 3rd world workers get a real wage and live a decent life. Now that's sad to me. Like I said, we all have different priorites in life. If the treatment of fowl bother you, then do something about it.

I know I would. And I don't even like Nike products.

 

[tcsenter]

The problem is PETA's die hard vegetarian stance. Because of that crap, they lose support for preventing cruelty to animals and get comments like this:

The problem with PETA isn't being hardcore vegetarians. The problem with PETA is its ideology which holds that you have no more right to exist or live than the common shrew and that the common shrew is your equal in every sense. The common shrew has all of the privileges, immunities, and rights that you have and no less.

A chicken farm in the eyes of PETA is morally, ethically, and philosophically equal to what occurred inside of Nazi concentration camps; a 'holocaust every day occurs in restaurants and homes throughout America.' Those who kill chickens are committing a murderous act that is morally, ethically, and philosophically equal to those committed by Nazi executioners and torturers. That is PETA's problem.

Although PETA's ideology is extra-planetary in its sheer lunacy and extremism, I have to give PETA credit where credit is due: they do not hesitate to admit it. While PETA is very careful not to 'project' this extremist ideology in any of its public awareness campaigns, because a fair amount of PETA's support comes from people who would be horrified to learn what PETA is truly about, it will readily admit its beliefs when pressed on the issue.

In fact, PETA has battled internally from time to time between two camps; one that wants to preserve the integrity of PETA's extremist ideology even if it hurts the organization and another who wants to 'soften' PETA's public image to boost its credibility. It is important to understand that these two 'camps' are one and the same. The latter camp doesn't want PETA to be different, it merely wants PETA to ostensibly appear different.

Nevertheless, the purist camp has always won out, at least thus far, preferring to uphold PETA's mission whatever the cost. Its not often that an advocacy group motivated by a brand of extremism that 99.9% of the public would find appalling - and there are many - prefers to have you know exactly what they stand for instead of trying to blow smoke up your ass. For that, I give PETA credit.

BTW, some of those people who wanted PETA to ostensibly appear different, but not actually be different, became frustrated at the intransigence of their colleagues who were zealously willing uphold PETA's integrity at any cost left PETA to form an organization that would be fashioned in the more 'public friendly' image they envisioned for PETA.

The organization they formed was the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). Looks different on the outside, same people and extremism on the inside.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
The problem is PETA's die hard vegetarian stance. Because of that crap, they lose support for preventing cruelty to animals and get comments like this:

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
As long as the meat is disease free I don't care where it came from. Sucks to be below us in the food chain but that's mother nature for you.

I have more important things to worry about than a bunch of chickens. I doubt other carnivore animals sit around all day worrying about if their food had a good life or not. If other people find the treatment of chickens unacceptable and want to change it, then I don't care. More power to them. But for me this isn't a priority. I see it as an efficient way of getting meat to the people at a cheap price which is affordable for most families.

Why do you think this whole argument began? Because there has been such an increase in demand for meat, and lower prices of meat, in the past 100 years (maybe more, less, I dunno), true factory farming as we know it today, was started. How else can 14,000 chickens be killed a minute in the US?

Over 10 billion animals are slaughtered each year, in the US. That is ONLY the US, not counting every other country. Can any of you realize such a scale?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
The problem is PETA's die hard vegetarian stance. Because of that crap, they lose support for preventing cruelty to animals and get comments like this:

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
As long as the meat is disease free I don't care where it came from. Sucks to be below us in the food chain but that's mother nature for you.

I have more important things to worry about than a bunch of chickens. I doubt other carnivore animals sit around all day worrying about if their food had a good life or not. If other people find the treatment of chickens unacceptable and want to change it, then I don't care. More power to them. But for me this isn't a priority. I see it as an efficient way of getting meat to the people at a cheap price which is affordable for most families.

Why do you think this whole argument began? Because there has been such an increase in demand for meat, and lower prices of meat, in the past 100 years (maybe more, less, I dunno), true factory farming as we know it today, was started. How else can 14,000 chickens be killed a minute in the US?

Over 10 billion animals are slaughtered each year, in the US. That is ONLY the US, not counting every other country. Can any of you realize such a scale?

Amazing isn't it.

It's truly impressive that we can feed so many people so cheaply and efficiently.

As I once heard, isn't it a wonderful thing to live in a nation where the poor people are FAT.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
The problem is PETA's die hard vegetarian stance. Because of that crap, they lose support for preventing cruelty to animals and get comments like this:

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
As long as the meat is disease free I don't care where it came from. Sucks to be below us in the food chain but that's mother nature for you.

I have more important things to worry about than a bunch of chickens. I doubt other carnivore animals sit around all day worrying about if their food had a good life or not. If other people find the treatment of chickens unacceptable and want to change it, then I don't care. More power to them. But for me this isn't a priority. I see it as an efficient way of getting meat to the people at a cheap price which is affordable for most families.

Why do you think this whole argument began? Because there has been such an increase in demand for meat, and lower prices of meat, in the past 100 years (maybe more, less, I dunno), true factory farming as we know it today, was started. How else can 14,000 chickens be killed a minute in the US?

Over 10 billion animals are slaughtered each year, in the US. That is ONLY the US, not counting every other country. Can any of you realize such a scale?

Amazing isn't it.

It's truly impressive that we can feed so many people so cheaply and efficiently.

As I once heard, isn't it a wonderful thing to live in a nation where the poor people are FAT.

Both impressive and sickening.

 

[So]

Of course it's a shame, but it is still impressive that in this day and age, we can feed ourselves so easily. Think, just 300 years ago something like 95% of the population were subsistance farmers.