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Nor should it to anyone. It's your opinion of said food, just like anyone elses. Since you don't know what it takes to make, how can you appreciate it fully?
From almost all the different kinds of soups I've had, I will agree stock is the most important thing. I can't do it right ;|
Food is a drug, the body needs it or else you feel hungry and sick.
/DUH
chefs can make shitty food.
how do you know food is shitty unless you've tasted better?
since I've tasted a lot, I know what tastes good and what tastes bad.
just imo
wrt your example, a chef can make his 1 shitty dish whereas I've tasted 15 different variants of said dish. thus, I know that chef's version sucks.
after watching a few seasons of kitchen nightmares you wonder how some people call themselves chefs.
I agree. I will never forget the relatively simple bowl of ramen I had at Miyake Noodle Bar in Portland, Maine. It was cooked with pork stock and served with a couple slices of belly. The stock was incredible - I haven't had that kind of richness in stock since.
Yeah you can tell if you visit a place enough as well when it changes too. This pho place I like sometimes the stock isn't as good, other times it's absolutely amazing.
See for me this is where your logic doesnt make sense. Youd trust the opinion of a chef who could make shitty pho vs a foodie whos tasted bowls of pho from 50+ places? I cant make a bowl of pho but I damn well know every attribute that makes a GREAT bowl of pho (and MSG isnt one of them)
<damn that sounded snobby. oh well>
Oh I don't think this place is the best, but they're one of the better places I can get to for lunch that I enjoy. Occasionally it seems like they rushed the stock and mostly that's because the lunch crowd was HUGE that day. I would definitely trust your opinion on food Ns1, you seem to visit the good placesI'm just saying the snobbieness of some foodies turns me off and I guess like another said those aren't foodies they are food snobs. So I might be directing it towards the wrong "crowd".
it turns me off occasionally too. i hate myself sometimes haha
btw that ramen place i linked to is near your neck of the woods
http://www.yelp.com/biz/mottainai-ramen-gardena
From almost all the different kinds of soups I've had, I will agree stock is the most important thing. I can't do it right ;|
I think its more referencing someone to appreciates good food. Not necessarily that they like to eat.
The most important ingredient for nomnom stock is.....time. Four hours is a *bare* minimum for halfway decent stock, and when I do mine I let it simmer for 15 hours or so (overnight, obviously) but it's dead simple:
2lb turkey wings (cut up and break the bones)
2-3 pounds soup bones (you might have to ask at the meat counter)
couple largish onions, rough chopped with the skin on
couple stalks celery, rough chopped
8 or so cloves of garlic smashed with the side of a knife with skin
some sprigs of fresh thyme and/or rosemary and/or sage (whatever you got)
dump all that in a pot and add enough water to cover (will need a *big* pot, commonly called a stock pot) put over medium heat til it comes to a boil (might want to stir to make sure the meat doesn't stick to the bottom). As it boils, skim the froth that rises to the top. After about 20-30 minutes of boiling, bring it down to a really low simmer (need to make sure that it's still bubbling a little) and leave it for 12-15 hours.
Next morning strain out all the solid matter (I keep the veggies and add to the dogs bowls as a treat) and separate into containers. It will keep 3-4 months in the freezer.
I use it for any recipe that calls for stock or broth for some extra nom factor.
HTH.
The most important ingredient for nomnom stock is.....time. Four hours is a *bare* minimum for halfway decent stock, and when I do mine I let it simmer for 15 hours or so (overnight, obviously) but it's dead simple:
2lb turkey wings (cut up and break the bones)
2-3 pounds soup bones (you might have to ask at the meat counter)
couple largish onions, rough chopped with the skin on
couple stalks celery, rough chopped
8 or so cloves of garlic smashed with the side of a knife with skin
some sprigs of fresh thyme and/or rosemary and/or sage (whatever you got)
dump all that in a pot and add enough water to cover (will need a *big* pot, commonly called a stock pot) put over medium heat til it comes to a boil (might want to stir to make sure the meat doesn't stick to the bottom). As it boils, skim the froth that rises to the top. After about 20-30 minutes of boiling, bring it down to a really low simmer (need to make sure that it's still bubbling a little) and leave it for 12-15 hours.
Next morning strain out all the solid matter (I keep the veggies and add to the dogs bowls as a treat) and separate into containers. It will keep 3-4 months in the freezer.
I use it for any recipe that calls for stock or broth for some extra nom factor.
HTH.
I've heard anything less than 10 hours is a waste, I've never done it correctly because I don't have a big enough pot. I need to buy one so I can make some.
edit- thanks for the recipe btw
As Ns1 said way above, it's about quality, not quantity.
Sure thing. I heard chefs say six hours as the minimum for a seafood stock (which is quicker...and I've heard of good recipes that take less time) but for a meat/poultry stock, time is your friend. If I need some quickly and don't have any on hand, there's one you can get in the freezer case at a decent grocer that's pretty decent, though I'm spacing on the name right now.
I use the stock from the recipe I quoted when I make paella and it's omg delicious, if I do say so myself.![]()
Food is a drug, the body needs it or else you feel hungry and sick.
/DUH
The most important ingredient for nomnom stock is.....time. Four hours is a *bare* minimum for halfway decent stock, and when I do mine I let it simmer for 15 hours or so (overnight, obviously) but it's dead simple:
2lb turkey wings (cut up and break the bones)
2-3 pounds soup bones (you might have to ask at the meat counter)
couple largish onions, rough chopped with the skin on
couple stalks celery, rough chopped
8 or so cloves of garlic smashed with the side of a knife with skin
some sprigs of fresh thyme and/or rosemary and/or sage (whatever you got)
dump all that in a pot and add enough water to cover (will need a *big* pot, commonly called a stock pot) put over medium heat til it comes to a boil (might want to stir to make sure the meat doesn't stick to the bottom). As it boils, skim the froth that rises to the top. After about 20-30 minutes of boiling, bring it down to a really low simmer (need to make sure that it's still bubbling a little) and leave it for 12-15 hours.
Next morning strain out all the solid matter (I keep the veggies and add to the dogs bowls as a treat) and separate into containers. It will keep 3-4 months in the freezer.
I use it for any recipe that calls for stock or broth for some extra nom factor.
HTH.
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