WTF I had no idea we landed on Venus back in '82.

[JEDIYoda]

No, it's true. Srsly

No it`s not true.....you are lumping all Christian households together...I really do want to like you...really...but I have a lot of issues with idiots...

 

[Craig234]

We established a colony on Venus in the mid-80's...but global thermonuclear war ended that experiment.

Everyone knows this.

Yet another Reagan bad policy.

 

[BUTCH1]

Yeah...but the Mars rovers lasted a tiny bit longer. (Years, rather than minutes or hours.)


And I don't think the US ever landed on Venus, at least not anything functional.



Oh, and Curiosity is a big mobile thing, with the ability to ablate small sections of rock, drill into it, and then deliver the powdered remains into an onboard laboratory - also a pretty impressive feat.

There's a reason the Venus probe didn't last long, because of the thick Venusian atmosphere the pressure is 92 times ours, around 1400 PSI at the surface, the average mean temperature is around 820 degrees and has clouds consisting mostly of sulfuric acid. Not a friendly place, even for a machine, it was quite an accomplishment for the USSR with early 1970's technology..

 

[JulesMaximus]

No it`s not true.....you are lumping all Christian households together...I really do want to like you...really...but I have a lot of issues with idiots...

You might want to check the batteries in your sarcasm meter...

 

[Tweak155]

I didn't know this either (I'm not one for history - yeah not alive in 82) but that photo is cool as hell. Amazing how a planet's surface can be so hot that far away from the sun. Those are some serious gases!

 

[vi edit]

Well, at least when we land a rover, we know how to make a lasting impression.

https://hen6qa.blu.livefilestore.co...4AFt36Vhgf0qTS-HtkJhzDVt/IMG959766.jpg?psid=1

 

[dave_the_nerd]

The Soviets landed a probe in the US in 1977. If it were not for one man's heroism, y'all would be dead.

Was it an anal probe? Because I think I saw that movie.

 

[SunnyD]

Be forewarned... there are probes enroute to land on Uranus. :sneaky:

 

[Krazy4Real]

Pluto isn't a planet anymore, just a head up

Pluto will always be a planet to me dammit!

 

[SagaLore]

I think we should put more effort into sending rovers to Venus that can survive the planet. It would give us a technological boost.

We should also send atmosphere balloons there to analyze the environment and send data back.

 

[gorcorps]

No it`s not true.....you are lumping all Christian households together...I really do want to like you...really...but I have a lot of issues with idiots...

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/ellipsis.htm

 

[dud]

I thought this was common knowledge, outside of christian households anyway.

You are right about the first part ... wrong about the last.

 

[Jeff7]

There's a reason the Venus probe didn't last long, because of the thick Venusian atmosphere the pressure is 92 times ours, around 1400 PSI at the surface, the average mean temperature is around 820 degrees and has clouds consisting mostly of sulfuric acid. Not a friendly place, even for a machine, it was quite an accomplishment for the USSR with early 1970's technology..

Precisely.


The Mars rovers are impressive in their own way. The Venus landers...that's a hell of an environment for any of our technology.

Though at that temperature, maybe it could fix an Xbox's red ring of death problem.
(And warp the casing into something really stylish, before melting it completely.)

 

[Nemesis13]

We also landed on Saturn's moon Titan

beat me to it

 

[Vdubchaos]

Most American's don't know that Russia won just about every single race/record in space PRIOR to US moon landing.

The most incredible thing is HOW they did it.

US had 150k people and BILLIONS of dollars on the space program. While Russia had 1500 and almost NO BUDGET. Their engineers lived in unheated housing and had cardboard and pencils to draw on.

What they have accomplished is simply incredible given the conditions/budget.

It was overshadowed by the Moon landing. That's when they cancelled everything. When they went to destroy all of the equipment people say Russians could've made it to the moon and back # of times with the stuff they had.

Also, there is many skeptics about the entire moon landing......due to the coincidence. Imagine 90s Chicago Bulls or Miami Heat winning every single game during the season only to lose the final.....

Personally I believe US made it to the moon, but I'm not sure I believe they did it when they say they did. Sounds too good to be true based on their prior accomplishments in space.

:Flame suit on:

 

[JulesMaximus]

Most American's don't know that Russia won just about every single race/record in space PRIOR to US moon landing.

The most incredible thing is HOW they did it.

US had 150k people and BILLIONS of dollars on the space program. While Russia had 1500 and almost NO BUDGET. Their engineers lived in unheated housing and had cardboard and pencils to draw on.

What they have accomplished is simply incredible given the conditions/budget.

It was overshadowed by the Moon landing. That's when they cancelled everything. When they went to destroy all of the equipment people say Russians could've made it to the moon and back # of times with the stuff they had.

Also, there is many skeptics about the entire moon landing......due to the coincidence. Imagine 90s Chicago Bulls or Miami Heat winning every single game during the season only to lose the final.....

Personally I believe US made it to the moon, but I'm not sure I believe they did it when they say they did. Sounds too good to be true based on their prior accomplishments in space.

:Flame suit on:

They're idiots. The moon landing conspiracies have been debunked as, well... complete bunk.

 

[BoomerD]

They're idiots. The moon landing conspiracies have been debunked as, well... complete bunk.

Nah...it was all staged. IIRC, in a warehouse in Arizona...it has to be the truth...I read it on the internet.

 

[KeithTalent]

Yeah, on the spaceship Bananarama. Good times!

KT

 

[Vdubchaos]

They're idiots. The moon landing conspiracies have been debunked as, well... complete bunk.

Yes, I'm saying I believe either side (to be honest). Consipracy theorist OR our government.

Moon landing was WAY too good to be true (based on prior US space race accomplishments) and came at a "convenient" time in the entire space race when Russia had EVERY record.

But I'm not saying we didn't end up on the moon (at some point).

 

[ichy]

Most American's don't know that Russia won just about every single race/record in space PRIOR to US moon landing.
:

Not really. It was during the Gemini program that NASA really pulled ahead of the soviets. Orbital rendezvous and how to perform real work during EVAs (I know that Alexei Leonov did the first spacewalk but that was a stunt that almost killed him) were the two biggies. Gemini and Skylab were overshadowed by Apollo but both programs were pretty amazing in their own right.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Not really. It was during the Gemini program that NASA really pulled ahead of the soviets. Orbital rendezvous and how to perform real work during EVAs (I know that Alexei Leonov did the first spacewalk but that was a stunt that almost killed him) were the two biggies. Gemini and Skylab were overshadowed by Apollo but both programs were pretty amazing in their own right.

Here you go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_exploration_milestones,_1957%E2%80%931969

US accomplishments mostly included unmanned missions.....

>They went from "didn't even manage to get a man in space" to "moon landing" in one mission.< I take that back (see below for explanation)

Do I think it's possible? Sure

Do I think it's too good to be true? Yes

 

[ichy]

What are you talking about? The US had the entire Mercury and Gemini programs as well as numerous Apollo test flights before we landed anyone on the moon.

 

[Vdubchaos]

What are you talking about? The US had the entire Mercury and Gemini programs as well as numerous Apollo test flights before we landed anyone on the moon.

Sorry I take that back. I meant, Russians were first to beat them in every "manned" race. And US all of the sudden get the biggest one of them all.

Regardless, it's simply incredible what Russians have accomplished with 1/100th of man power, very little resource, no money, severe conditions and hardly any food hehe.

 

[umbrella39]

I thought this was common knowledge, outside of christian households anyway.

Pretty much this... I'll even raise you that even while going to a Catholic high school and being in and out of church all week long we knew this info back then, too.

 

[ichy]

Agree 100% about the Russians deserving respect for what they did with limited resources. A lot of their "firsts" were PR stunts though. The first time they launched three people into space they did it in a jury-rigged capsule that was so cramped they couldn't wear pressure suits. Their first EVA was a stunt that almost ended in disaster.

You also need to look at the significance of what the US achieved duri g the Gemini program. The rendezvous of Gemini 6 and 7 was an incredible achievement that was vital to making lunar orbit rendezvous work. Same with all the Agena dockings that later Gemini missions did. These may not have been as "sexy" as some of the firsts that the Russians achieved but we couldn't have made it to the moon otherwise.