WTF happened in London?! ***EDIT: multiple coordinated terrorist bomb attacks***

[pepo]

all this are speculations. nothing for sire now.

it will be at least 24h before we get real numbers

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: Josh
apparently at least 40 confirmed dead is what cnn is saying...wait for everyone to die down for the official statistics...

Fixed.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Amused
I have a fscking clue, Conjur. You, unfortunately, do not.

Well, you've just proven you don't

We are in the Middle East because that's where the terrorists are.

No, there were NO terrorists in Iraq before we invaded. The terrorists were in the places I mentioned earlier. Why didn't we invade those countries if this was about fighting terrorists? You have sucked up the propaganda and swallowed it whole, never once questioning the validity of the BS spewed from the Propagandist's mouth and his PNAC henchmen.

No, the Iraq war was about one thing, and one thing only (and the WMDs were just the falsified excuse to get us in there):

Spreading the new colonialism: capitalism.

The US foreign policy is repeating the mistakes of 1980s actions in Central America.

Wake up and stop watching FAUX News and read some books on the history of our foreign policy and how it's purpose has been to bolster American corporations since the American market is a saturated beast. Why do think this administration is vilifying Chavez in Venezuela?

 

[purbeast0]

this desserves a sticky.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf

Originally posted by: RichPLS
I wonder if this attack is not related to the G-8 Summit, but rather to the awarding of the Olympics. This possibility would mean, of course, that had the Olympics gone to one of the other four cities, that bombs would have been detonated there.

And that means that there is the capability to attack almost any city within 24 hours notice. Just some of my paranoid thoughts emerging on this somber AM.

There is no way this attack could have been put together in one day. 7 coordinated bombings across the city? I'd bet it was being planned for months. This has zero to do with the olympics.

Why couldn't the attacks have been planned for months for the announcment? Get things in place for each city with a chance to win and, when the announcement is made, move in. Quite possible.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
The TTC (Toronto Transit Commission) is now on high alert, including TTC constables making sure order is maintained.

France is now on its 2nd highest alert.

Canada is on middle alert.

Oil is now down $4 US a barrel.

Uhh...not anymore:

Oil bounces from losses after UK attacks
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArtic..._RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-MARKETS-OIL-DC.XML

LONDON (Reuters) - Oil prices bounced back from a heavy drop on Thursday in reaction to a coordinated series of terror attacks on central London's public transport system.

U.S. crude fell to a low of $57.20 as it became clear the blasts were deliberate, but recovered by 1235 GMT to $60.50 a barrel, down 78 cents on the day.

Brent crude in London fell to a low of $55.55 before recovering to $59.23 a barrel, down 61 cents on the day.

I never said it was permanent.

Oil goes up and down like a yo-yo.

 

[pepo]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: MoobyTheGoldenCalf

Originally posted by: RichPLS
I wonder if this attack is not related to the G-8 Summit, but rather to the awarding of the Olympics. This possibility would mean, of course, that had the Olympics gone to one of the other four cities, that bombs would have been detonated there.

And that means that there is the capability to attack almost any city within 24 hours notice. Just some of my paranoid thoughts emerging on this somber AM.

There is no way this attack could have been put together in one day. 7 coordinated bombings across the city? I'd bet it was being planned for months. This has zero to do with the olympics.

Why couldn't the attacks have been planned for months for the announcment? Get things in place for each city with a chance to win and, when the announcement is made, move in. Quite possible.

in my view this has nothing to do with the olympics.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: RichPLS
This is a World War, but not between the civilized world and Iraq. The enemy is a group of radical Islamic terrorists. They have no country.

I wonder when some people here will realize this?

Iraq is just one theater of the war much like Belguim was.

And yes, the terrorists' had a country. They were in Afganistan for one. And yes they move from country to country. Indonesia, Phillipians, Iraq, Iran..... the list goes on.

:thumbsup:

*nod* Wherever poverty and lawlessness is more the rule than the exception, where the uneducated can be rallied to hate others by a leader seeking to make a statement to the world, terrorism will need to be fought.

Good luck to those I know and don't in the U.K., our thoughts are with you today.

 

[conjur]

Ayup...and oil will go up even more once Dennis hits the Gulf

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
this desserves a sticky.

I already asked for one in Forum Issues.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: conjur


What is clear, though, is that the fvcking BS rhetoric from this admin that "America and the world are safer" is now completely and utterly without basis. Attacks like this will continue no matter what countries are invaded and no matter what sanctions are imposed upon others. There will always be a fringe element seeking to cause death and destruction.

Better security at home at ports, chemical plants, transportation hubs, trucking industry, etc. is what we need, not more bombs and bullets.

Oh yeah. THAT'S gonna work! :roll:

Crime? Screw going after the criminals! Hide in your homes and barricade your doors!

Bees stinging you when you walk outside your door? Screw finding the hives and destroying them, better to wear a bee suit every time you leave your house!

Your answer to terrorism warms the hearts of terrorists all over the world, Conjur. You're exactly the kind of pussy they hope all westerners are.

Your plan is exactly what they want us to do: Run away with our tails between our legs and hide.

Yes, it will work. Extra security at places like that would minimize, at the least, any damage done as they wouldn't be able to board trains, planes, ships, etc.

What's Blair going to do now? Bomb Iraq again? Invading Iraq has created MORE terrorism in the world.

Get a fvcking clue.

I have a fscking clue, Conjur. You, unfortunately, do not.

We are in the Middle East because that's where the terrorists are.

You don't fight the bees where they're stinging you, you go to the nest and kill them. You don't hide in your home from criminals, you hunt them down and jail them.

You don't hide in your country from terrorists, you go where they originate (or as close as you can get) and deal with them there. Iraq and Afghanistan were the only two ME countries we could legally invade and remove terrorist friendly regimes.

Doing so did stir up the bees, but MOST of the attacks have been THERE. It will be messy before it's better. But in the long run it beats hiding at home and becoming their bitches like you would have us do. Slowly but surely we will democratize the ME and negate religious fanaticism in the region. (Just as we did fascism in Europe) To fail to do so now would only make it far worse in the long run.

Cliffs: Grow some balls.

Right-on! It's time to silence the bed-wetting Libs who would love to see America become subordinate to terrorist regimes, the UN, France, etc.

 

[conjur]

Oh, look. GTAudiophile comes to troll here in this thread after having his partisan ass handed to him in P&N

 

[Mayfriday0529]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
What's Bush doing, running for his life again, or falling off his tricycle? :roll:

I don't see a point on why we have to bash bush at this moment...

 

[pepo]

Originally posted by: Jnetty99

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
What's Bush doing, running for his life again, or falling off his tricycle? :roll:

I don't see a point on why we have to bash bush at this moment...

I don'r believe that bush is in any way responsible for this mess. come on get real.

 

[Iron Woode]

Would the P&N regulars please keep the flames to a minimum.

Thank you.

 

[iamme]

i left the PC for a moment with the death toll at 2. now it's at 40

(according to cnn.com)

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Jnetty99

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
What's Bush doing, running for his life again, or falling off his tricycle? :roll:

I don't see a point on why we have to bash bush at this moment...

Because they are as obsessed with Bush as the tinfoil hat wearers were with Clinton. Every single event in their lives is seen through the prism of their hatred of Bush.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Would the P&N regulars please keep the flames to a minimum.

Thank you.

:thumbsup:

 

[imported_alp]

also a rumour of a would-be suicide bomber being shot?

 

[spherrod]

Originally posted by: alp
also a rumour of a would-be suicide bomber being shot?

I've heard that rumour on local London news, apparently at Canary Wharf but can't find any mention of it anywhere online

 

[pepo]

Originally posted by: spherrod

Originally posted by: alp
also a rumour of a would-be suicide bomber being shot?

I've heard that rumour on local London news, apparently at Canary Wharf but can't find any mention of it anywhere online

speculations

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: spherrod

Originally posted by: alp
also a rumour of a would-be suicide bomber being shot?

I've heard that rumour on local London news, apparently at Canary Wharf but can't find any mention of it anywhere online

Sure would be a great lead for the investigation.

 

[spherrod]

Originally posted by: pepo

Originally posted by: spherrod

Originally posted by: alp
also a rumour of a would-be suicide bomber being shot?

I've heard that rumour on local London news, apparently at Canary Wharf but can't find any mention of it anywhere online

speculations

absolutely - but it's interesting that it is being reported on local news yet no main news source has even touched on it yet. I don't think anyone has said it's fact

 

[Iron Woode]

OK, the subway footage was a cell phone video recorded by a passenger.

I managed to capture it.

Anyone want a copy?

 

[RichPLS]

Now over 35 dead...

I suspect these bombings will be traced to Iran.