wtf? Arizona does NOT observed Daylight Saving?

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IronWing

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Just a note to my northern brethren:

Arizona is hot in the Summer. DST would shift folks' schedules so they could be out enjoying the 115 degree heat instead of being stuck in an air conditioned office. For Arizona, DST would likely cost more in energy than standard time as folks cracked up the A/C an hour earlier and an hour hotter each day.
 

ja1484

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Actually, it does provide useful benefits. You just needed to research the subject.



No, it really doesn't. All that stuff about "energy savings" is a nice hollow victory that people tend to point at, but it's such a miniscule portion of our daily usage it might as well be nothing at all.

Now, time zones are a different story...
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Just a note to my northern brethren:

Arizona is hot in the Summer. DST would shift folks' schedules so they could be out enjoying the 115 degree heat instead of being stuck in an air conditioned office. For Arizona, DST would likely cost more in energy than standard time as folks cracked up the A/C an hour earlier and an hour hotter each day.

Since Arizona is the only state where it gets hot in the summer, this makes perfect sense.

:roll:

MotionMan
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Actually, it does provide useful benefits. You just needed to research the subject.



No, it really doesn't. All that stuff about "energy savings" is a nice hollow victory that people tend to point at, but it's such a miniscule portion of our daily usage it might as well be nothing at all.

Now, time zones are a different story...

Like I said, do some more research.

Reduced auto-accidents, reduced crime, the promotion of health, increased retail sales and I could go on. Thanks for playing.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: ironwing
Just a note to my northern brethren:

Arizona is hot in the Summer. DST would shift folks' schedules so they could be out enjoying the 115 degree heat instead of being stuck in an air conditioned office. For Arizona, DST would likely cost more in energy than standard time as folks cracked up the A/C an hour earlier and an hour hotter each day.

Since Arizona is the only state where it gets hot in the summer, this makes perfect sense.

:roll:

MotionMan

Okay, I lied. Arizona refuses to adopt DST because, secretly, we want to be more like California so we adopt your time zone for several months each year.
 

ericlp

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DST does suck... I don't like setting all the clocks, yeah I have a few that auto set tho, wish the cars all auto set... no..........

Gaining an hour isn't bad but losing an hour in the fall sucks!!! Takes a good week to adjust to it... at least for me...

For all your DST lovers... I'll be burning a bulb 24/7 to make up the additional savings....

 

Leros

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Why don't we just do DST all year round? I love having light in the evenings.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: MotionMan
I was an hour late to a deposition in Kingman, AZ because of the AZ-no-DST-thing once.

I flew into Vegas and, as I drove over Hoover Dam, I saw the NV time and AZ time clocks on the towers. There was not a lot I could do about it then - no cell service between Hoover and Kingman.

MotionMan

Ever watch the West Wing? There was an episode about that, but it was a missed plane in Indiana when Indiana had three separate areas with different combinations of time zone (eastern/central) and DST (DST/no DST).

I can't help but enjoy saying this: Indiana fails. :p

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mugs

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Originally posted by: ericlp
DST does suck... I don't like setting all the clocks, yeah I have a few that auto set tho, wish the cars all auto set... no..........

Gaining an hour isn't bad but losing an hour in the fall sucks!!! Takes a good week to adjust to it... at least for me...

For all your DST lovers... I'll be burning a bulb 24/7 to make up the additional savings....

I don't think very many DST lovers care about the supposed energy savings.
 

Exterous

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Is having to re-set all of the clocks really that big of a deal? How long does that take really? A couple of minutes? Seems like a trivial complaint to me. Hell, I don't even bother to reset my car's - I just remember that its an hour off

 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: Exterous
Is having to re-set all of the clocks really that big of a deal? How long does that take really? A couple of minutes? Seems like a trivial complaint to me. Hell, I don't even bother to reset my car's - I just remember that its an hour off

Yeah, because that is a REAL bitch to do.

:roll:

MotionMan
 

Exterous

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Exterous
Is having to re-set all of the clocks really that big of a deal? How long does that take really? A couple of minutes? Seems like a trivial complaint to me. Hell, I don't even bother to reset my car's - I just remember that its an hour off

Yeah, because that is a REAL bitch to do.

:roll:

MotionMan

Actually - it is since the Hour and Min button don't work on my dash. When my battery died last winter I had to take the cover off around my radio, which is no easy feat on a 98 torus. Took me about 1 hour to reset the time. I could probably do it faster this time around since I know how to take the dash apart though (But still not something I want to do outside in the snow)

Thanks for playing!
 

AntiFreze

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Platypus
What school did you go to mugs?

<-purdue alum

Not Purdue. :)

Good for you Mugs.

Bad for you Platypus!


IU FTW!!!

And *I* get crap for reviving days old threads for no good reason?!?

MotionMan

hehe, got bored, so started going through threads I posted on :)
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Platypus
What school did you go to mugs?

<-purdue alum

Not Purdue. :)

Good for you Mugs.

Bad for you Platypus!


IU FTW!!!

And *I* get crap for reviving days old threads for no good reason?!?

MotionMan

hehe, got bored, so started going through threads I posted on :)

I have been known to search for terms that I am interested in, find months old threads and post a "QFT". :evil:

MotionMan
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Leros
Why don't we just do DST all year round? I love having light in the evenings.

Agreed, I enjoy having the extra hour of sunlight in the evenings and don't appreciate having that hour essentially stolen from me in the fall.

This is actually my first time living outside of Arizona (I'm in Cali now) and I hate this idea of changing all of your clocks twice a year. What's the point?

Some people are saying that it's not any work to do it, so why don't we just have daylight savings time every other day? How about on Tuesdays we go forward 2 hours, on Wednesdays go back an hour from Tuesday, etc... Yeah, I know the original point was essentially to save candlewax (ie electricity today), but there was a study recently the added the numbers up and found that it has actually been costing us money to implement DST.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: v1001
I didn't know that a state could do that. Thats awesome. DST is totally lame. Should be done away with forever.

AZ gets away with it with the entirely reasonable argument that DST jacks their AC bills. When its 110 out, you don't want the sunset to be at 10pm.

I don't get it...Care to explain?
If my house is hot inside whether it's 10pm or 9pm doesn't(or shouldn't) make a difference in whether I turn on the AC.

This isn't to say that I'm in support (or against) DST.
I just don't understand the idea that DST saves (or wastes) energy, leads to more(or less) playtime, gives you more(or less) time to do things in daylight, etc...
 

IGBT

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Good for them. I wish my state would tell them to stick it with this DST crap as well.


...just leave it one way or another.