WTC mosque - would they allow women to pray next to men

[nobodyknows]

Of course it is.

Again, if this is discrimination, are men allowed to pray next to women?

If not, it's not discrimination, it's equality.

If their are women who want to pray next to the men and the men who want to pray next to the women but neither are not allowed to, then what is that called? It sure as hell isn't freedom of religion.

 

[Sclamoz]

If their are women who want to pray next to the men and the men who want to pray next to the women but neither are not allowed to, then what is that called? It sure as hell isn't freedom of religion.

They would have to start their own religion & mosque to and excersise their freedom of religion. If anyone stopped them then it would violate their rights.

AFAIK men and women are separated in synagogues as well. Doesn't seem to concern anyone.

 

[nobodyknows]

They would have to start their own religion & mosque to and excersise their freedom of religion. If anyone stopped them then it would violate their rights.

AFAIK men and women are separated in synagogues as well. Doesn't seem to concern anyone.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/33604/kagan-had-synagogue%E2%80%99s-first-bat-mitzvah/

Kagan Had Synagogue’s First Bat Mitzvah

High Court nominee was at modern Orthodox shul

Couldn’t make it up. As a 13-year-old girl, Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan demanded and received the first bat mitzvah at her Upper West Side modern Orthodox synagogue.

The notion of gender equality had been making great strides in most denominations by the time the early ‘70s rolled around, the New York Times notes. Though modern Orthodox and led by a modern Orthodox rabbi, Kagan’s shul—Lincoln Square Synagogue, still active on Amsterdam Avenue at around 69th Street on Manhattan’s Upper West Side—had been started by Conservative Jews.

On May 18, 1973—a Friday night—Kagan read from the Book of Ruth (and gave a little midrash on it, too). So not a traditional bat mitzvah, but still the first one of its kind there.

The Jewish Theological Seminary’s Shuly Rubin Schwartz puts the whole thing in context:

In terms of timing, this was the period when young women coming of age, who had those kinds of expectations for equality and taking leadership positions in the secular world, began to question: Why can’t I do this in the Jewish world? What is unusual is that she asked it in an Orthodox institution where that was an unheard-of question at that point.

Apparently they are fighting for the right and I'm sure many Muslim women want equality also.

 

[Sclamoz]

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/33604/kagan-had-synagogue%E2%80%99s-first-bat-mitzvah/

Kagan Had Synagogue’s First Bat Mitzvah

High Court nominee was at modern Orthodox shul



Apparently they are fighting for the right and I'm sure many Muslim women want equality also.

Good for Kagan. Just another example of a progressive leftist fighting for women's rights.

It doesn't change the fact that most Synagogues separate men and women like mosques do. Until people stop choosing to go to these places willingly and accepting these stupid polices their right to freedom of religion isn't being violated.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Have any of you right-wing morons even *read* the Constitution?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If their are women who want to pray next to the men and the men who want to pray next to the women but neither are not allowed to, then what is that called? It sure as hell isn't freedom of religion.

I'm fairly sure there are neither women who want to pray next to men or men who want to pray next to wome, this has been my experience in European, Asian and Middle Eastern congregations of Muslims.

Perhaps you should shut the FUCK UP and let them handle it?

Nah, it wouldn't be free unless YOU get to decide for them, right?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Have any of you right-wing morons even *read* the Constitution?

Half of the Nazis are left wingers who just hate Arabs, brown people and some black people, they are all equally fucked up in their skull though.

Take classy, he hates Muslims, gays, most white people and he doesn't have a clue about the constitution.

I think he's pretty much representative of this whole group of tea baggin twats.

 

[Vonkhan]

from ... http://www.pbs.org/engage/blog/ask-mosque-morgantown%E2%80%99s-asra-nomani

Journalist Asra Nomani witnessed Islamic extremism when her friend and colleague Daniel Pearl was killed in 2002. When she returned to her hometown of Morgantown, West Virginia to raise her son, she perceived her local mosque to be moving towards extremism. When she attempted to enter the mosque through the front door, Nomani was told that women could not pray alongside men and that she would have to use the back door.

Must be the water in west virginia, makes everyone there retarded regardless of color of skin and/or religion

 

[Pens1566]

Must be the water in west virginia, makes everyone there retarded regardless of color of skin and/or religion

🙁

Morgantown is a white collar university town that better fits in with new england than your preconceived ideas.

 

[Vonkhan]

🙁

Morgantown is a white collar university town that better fits in with new england than your preconceived ideas.

thanks for telling me about my college town ...

and there's nothing white collared about it

it's a little better than say, boone or logan county, but the entire state is like the freakin armpit of america. i've been all over the US, but wv was the most ignorant backward state of the lot

 

[Pens1566]

thanks for telling me about my college town ...

and there's nothing white collared about it

it's a little better than say, boone or logan county, but the entire state is like the freakin armpit of america. i've been all over the US, but wv was the most ignorant backward state of the lot

Something tells me I know more about it than you do ...

 

[nobodyknows]

I'm fairly sure there are neither women who want to pray next to men or men who want to pray next to wome, this has been my experience in European, Asian and Middle Eastern congregations of Muslims.

Perhaps you should shut the FUCK UP and let them handle it?

Nah, it wouldn't be free unless YOU get to decide for them, right?

Oh fuck you. This is a free country and I can give my opinion and there isn't a fucking thing an arrogant ass like you can do about it, kapeesh?

Perhaps you should get the hell out the middle east and let them handle it? Nah, can't do that until we have our puppets in place.

 

[nobodyknows]

Good for Kagan. Just another example of a progressive leftist fighting for women's rights.

It doesn't change the fact that most Synagogues separate men and women like mosques do. Until people stop choosing to go to these places willingly and accepting these stupid polices their right to freedom of religion isn't being violated.

They were raised that way and it's hard to go against the prevailing "wisdom". That doesn't mean they wouldn't want to if they had the chance.

My Grandmother was raised catholic and married a protestant. They excomunicated her from the church and half her family wouldn't have anything to do with her after that. She said that when she was a young girl that people believed that a priest could give you an "evil eye", LOL!!