Have you tried the Type Cover? I had both at one point and the Type Cover is probably the best keyboard I have ever used. Touch Cover is nice, but I always had problems hitting the spacebar.
Hi all, just an update for the Origin authentication issue.
It looks like there is an Surface Only build that was released.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/30/9291803.page#27275007
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It looks like people already tried BF3 on the Surface and mokenoface played a bit of Sim City on it.
It looks like there is an Surface Only build that was released.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/30/9291803.page#27275007
Scroll down to EA_mikenoface at 02/21/2013 18:20:04
It looks like people already tried BF3 on the Surface and mokenoface played a bit of Sim City on it.
I just picked up an adapter to be able to connect my monitor to my surface via DVI, however I can't get the resolution for the external display to go above 1280x800.
Anybody have any ideas why that might be?
Anybody have any ideas why that might be?
Well, according to some reading, it looks like the Dell 3007WFP-HC will only go to 1280x800 when not connected via a dual-link DVI cable. It looks like the cheapo adapter I bought that listed dual-link, is in fact, not.
Ouch, that happened to me with a normal DVI cable. It was advertised as a dual link, had connectors of a dual link but the cabling itself was single link.
lopri
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If anyone's getting either Surface, avoid the touch covers. Go to nearby Bestbuy or Staples and try typing a sentence on a touch cover and you will see for yourself. It is dismaying that MS is bundling.. no, selling this garbage w/ their flagship products that need to set the example to impress consumers.
It is also astonishing how so many reviews gave pass to this abysmal product. "You will quickly get used to it," "It's not that bad," "Could have been better but not a deal breaker," .. whatever. Just try it out yourself.
Get a type cover.
It is also astonishing how so many reviews gave pass to this abysmal product. "You will quickly get used to it," "It's not that bad," "Could have been better but not a deal breaker," .. whatever. Just try it out yourself.
Get a type cover.
I was actually surprised by how much I didn't mind the touch cover. I felt like I could type at 75% of my normal speed.
That said, I did indeed go with the Type cover because of my usage profile, but I could more than deal with the touch cover for light browsing/emails.
That said, I did indeed go with the Type cover because of my usage profile, but I could more than deal with the touch cover for light browsing/emails.
destrekor
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I keep thinking about that damn Touch cover.
I like my Type cover... save for the fact that it'll appear to just randomly stop accepting keystrokes for a moment (it needs a breather!) and then it'll continue as if nothing happened. Every now and then it just doesn't recognize a keystroke, but it seemed the more common (or, perhaps, just more frustrating) moment was when it just stopped accepting keystrokes for a second or two.
Taking it back and getting a Touch Cover isn't about saving money, it'd be about making the device that much thinner when using a cover.
But really, it all depends on when Microsoft, or someone, will release that darn keyboard+battery dock. If I can get that, I'll be very happy.
I just wish it was out now. If I had a true dock keyboard like that, I'd definitely rather have the Touch Cover for when I wasn't using the true keyboard.
I fear I'll be "stuck with" a less workable "smart cover" when I grab the eventual keyboard dock.
Stone Rain
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The Surface is a nice product by itself, but MS has tripped over its feet hilariously while trying to sell it. The proper way to distribute it would have been to put it in every electronics and retail store they can get their claws into. Not this "unavailable" elitist silliness.
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I was kind of disappointed actually when I took a tip into pcworld and couldn't play with an RT before Christmas. My sister might have ended up with one instead of a tablet but without being able to play with it or heck even buy it anywhere but online I just didn't consider it further.
I want to have a play to see how well it performs in practice, how it feels, how laggy touch and scrolling is etc. My tablet is fine but its not really snappy quick.
I want to have a play to see how well it performs in practice, how it feels, how laggy touch and scrolling is etc. My tablet is fine but its not really snappy quick.
podspi
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It really depends on how serious they are about the brand. By limiting distribution it send a message to the other OEMs that Microsoft is not actually trying to compete with them, just showing them the way.
However recently it looks like Microsoft is actually trying to seriously move these things, which I think is crazy just because they're going to lose a lot of friends.
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Kaido
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I played with a Surface RT this week. I thought it was pretty dang cool. My only real complaint was the non-adjustable kickstand. I'm a huge Mac fan and don't like Windows 8 at all, but it was a really nice experience on a Surface RT, surprisingly. The gesture system worked really nicely, the plug-in keyboard was nice, good size & screen on the tablet. I was honestly surprised, I thought it'd be a piece of junk.
All I think it really needs is a better kickstand so you can adjust the screen angle if you want to set it down on a flat surface.
All I think it really needs is a better kickstand so you can adjust the screen angle if you want to set it down on a flat surface.
Kaido
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The one I played with as pretty much instant. The animations were really nice and snazzy, and the off-screen swipe-in gestures really added to the experience. The GUI actually looks pretty futuristic when you're watching someone play with it. As a die-hard Mac fan, I was prepared to rail on it, but the only thing I could really find wrong was the fixed-angle kickstand, which isn't that bad.
Deeko
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I have a touch cover because it came with mine. If I were paying $100+ for it I'd definitely get the type cover. That said - it really isn't that bad, relatively speaking. I hate all touch typing, including on a touch screen phone. I can do it, and reasonably fast/accurate...I just don't really like to.
So basically, if you really favor portability, thinness, and durability - go with the touch cover. You really can use it (even if you don't necessarily like it). if you plan on using it in "laptop mode" on a table a lot, and do a lot of heavy typing, get a type cover.
If anyone wants to disable the trackpad on the covers, there is a hidden app in the MS Store that is only visible via a Windows Update.
Here were the steps that I too to see the app.
1. Update the Surface via the metro version of the updater
"Charms -> Settings -> Change PC Settings -> Windows Update"
2. Click/Touch the No important update are scheduled to be installed link then the Get more info link
3. This will bring up the desktop version of Windows Update
4. Click/Touch the optional updates link
5. Select and install Touchpad Settings
6. Once that is done, proceed into the Windows Store
7. Search for Trackpad Settings
8. Install the Metro App
9. Have fun
Here were the steps that I too to see the app.
1. Update the Surface via the metro version of the updater
"Charms -> Settings -> Change PC Settings -> Windows Update"
2. Click/Touch the No important update are scheduled to be installed link then the Get more info link
3. This will bring up the desktop version of Windows Update
4. Click/Touch the optional updates link
5. Select and install Touchpad Settings
6. Once that is done, proceed into the Windows Store
7. Search for Trackpad Settings
8. Install the Metro App
9. Have fun
destrekor
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Back when I was having problems getting the cover to function, I had installed the Touchpad Settings Win8 app without doing anything else. At the time it did nothing for me, as the system wasn't recognizing the type cover at all.
destrekor
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They say you get used to it because, gasp, you actually do.
Once you adjust (typing without feedback but requiring a fair activation force? it's completely confusing and a jolt to what we've always known), it won't allow you to match a full proper keyboard, but it gets the job done.
If you want the benefits it offers over the Type cover, and know you won't be typing business letters and a ton of lengthy emails and whatnot throughout the entire day, every day, then it's a great keyboard replacement.
And it's probably the best option for anyone who plans to utilize any kind of docking-style setup, using BT keyboard/mouse and connecting to a monitor. That way you have something that "does the trick" when away from the desk, but gets out of the way and is unobtrusive whenever you don't want it.
You can flip it back and forget about it. You can't do that with the Type Cover - you have to be a little more mindful, pay attention to when you connect/disconnect it, connect it backwards if you want to flip it back (or else you get keys under your fingers in tablet mode), and a list of other worries.
Looks like with the special Origin build, surface pro users in the latest beta were able to use the pen.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/19ds3l/simcity_beta_3_running_on_microsoft_surface_pro/
http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/19ds3l/simcity_beta_3_running_on_microsoft_surface_pro/
While second hand info isn't as good as first hand experience, I can at least say that It doesn't feel laggy at all. Scrolling etc is snappy quick. My Surface Pro is faster than my work PC in all aspects. It is easily comparable to any ultrabook out there.
Just don't make the mistake of thinking that the surface pro is a competitor for tablets. While it may be a tablet, it's really a laptop/ultrabook replacement that happens to be a decent tablet as well. Most of the time I use mine as a laptop and then as a tablet when I need to take notes or just want to do some casual surfing or movie watching.
SKORPI0
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I think iFixit was a bit hasty taking off the screen. John566 in the other thread was able to swap the SSD without destroying anything.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2302455
Still not easy to do, but it is doable.
New score 2-3/10?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2302455
Still not easy to do, but it is doable.
New score 2-3/10?
SKORPI0
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I think iFixit was a bit hasty taking off the screen. John566 in the other thread was able to swap the SSD without destroying anything.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2302455
Still not easy to do, but it is doable.
New score 2-3/10?
Read the post, Touchscreen functionally was damaged beyond repair. :hmm:
Not sure what you mean by "without destroying anything."
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