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Wow, someone brain farted with this ad

Bateluer

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http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...trol-board-pulls-controversial-ad/?hpt=us_bn4

The advertisement shows a woman’s legs, what appears to be on a bathroom floor with her underwear around her ankles with the words — “She didn’t want to do it, but she couldn’t say no.”

Normally, I think people get too up in arms over some ads, but yeesh, the marketing people behind this need to be slapped.

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destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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I'm sorry, in real life, rape victims who were assaulted while black out drunk must share at least a small amount of blame.

If they were drugged, or raped under other circumstances, I would not dare suggest that.
But if you trash yourself, you have to understand the possible outcomes (reality, not dreamworld "everything will be just peachy for the rest of my life!").

I'm not saying such victims should be blamed entirely, but they likely put themselves in that situation (too much to drink), or let themselves get led that direction.

If you don't want to get raped at a party, don't get black out drunk at a party.
That's a terrific place to start. ;)

Mind you: I dare not say the attacker becomes less "guilty" in such a situation, but the victims are not perfectly innocent. They aren't giving a green light, which is why the attacker should serve the same amount of time regardless... but I hope ya understand the point I'm attempting to make.

Of course, the PC and feminist-types are probably drooling and hoping to tear me to shreds right about now.. fuck em, because they over-biased and not thinking realistically and rationally.

Just sayin', is all. ;)
 

lothar

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Jan 5, 2000
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I'm sorry, in real life, rape victims who were assaulted while black out drunk must share at least a small amount of blame.

If they were drugged, or raped under other circumstances, I would not dare suggest that.
But if you trash yourself, you have to understand the possible outcomes (reality, not dreamworld "everything will be just peachy for the rest of my life!").

I'm not saying such victims should be blamed entirely, but they likely put themselves in that situation (too much to drink), or let themselves get led that direction.

If you don't want to get raped at a party, don't get black out drunk at a party.
That's a terrific place to start. ;)

Mind you: I dare not say the attacker becomes less "guilty" in such a situation, but the victims are not perfectly innocent. They aren't giving a green light, which is why the attacker should serve the same amount of time regardless... but I hope ya understand the point I'm attempting to make.

Of course, the PC and feminist-types are probably drooling and hoping to tear me to shreds right about now.. fuck em, because they over-biased and not thinking realistically and rationally.

Just sayin', is all. ;)
Do you believe females that wear "short" shorts deserve to be raped and/or deserve some of the blame? :hmm:
 

lothar

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OP failed us by not linking to commercial itself.
Surely it's somewhere on the internet even if the board responsible has pulled the ad.
 

destrekor

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Do you believe females that wear "short" shorts deserve to be raped and/or deserve some of the blame? :hmm:

No, because they aren't detracting from their own ability to actually change the situation.


If you fall asleep with your front-door unlocked in a less-than-fantastic neighborhood, and have no pets who are actually worth their weight (read: can defend you/property), and someone comes in and robs you and/or kills you... do you think you should be 100% without blame?


You are not a blameless victim if you created the opportunity for an opportunistic criminal.


Point being: if you feel like getting black out drunk, and can't surround yourself with people who actually care about you enough to personally care for your motionless body (ignoring harmless markers, dress-up, poses, etc etc), then you must accept there is at least a slight risk.

It's called reality: don't go out of your way to create opportunity.

I'm not saying such a person is solely to blame for what happened to them, I'm saying it rightfully does belong on their conscience in such a case. Harsh lesson too, but it's a wakeup call to stop being so damned naive thinking the world is full of respectful caring creatures.

And regardless of the situation, a rapist should be sterilized, burned, slashed, housed in a cage viewable and accessible to the public, and then hung in public.
At the very least, definitely receive the max civil punishment.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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No, because they aren't detracting from their own ability to actually change the situation.


If you fall asleep with your front-door unlocked in a less-than-fantastic neighborhood, and have no pets who are actually worth their weight (read: can defend you/property), and someone comes in and robs you and/or kills you... do you think you should be 100% without blame?


You are not a blameless victim if you created the opportunity for an opportunistic criminal.

Ah, I get it. It's my fault that criminals exist and want to steal my stuff. Never the victim of crime, always the enabler.
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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Ah, I get it. It's my fault that criminals exist and want to steal my stuff. Never the victim of crime, always the enabler.

never said victims of crime weren't victims at all.
Nor did I ever say that technically it's the victims fault for opportunity crimes.
I did, however, imply that it should weigh on your mind if you "enabled" an opportunistic criminal.


However, I was also in a human-hating mood last night. I generally am after driving on the highway for hours at a time. So many goddamned stupid people out there ignorant of basic vehicular etiquette.



But
How about this one... if YOU get blackout drunk but end up at the point you are still active and loose control, and commit some kind of crime, would you put some blame on the alcohol?
 

feralkid

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Jan 28, 2002
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never said victims of crime weren't victims at all.
Nor did I ever say that technically it's the victims fault for opportunity crimes.
I did, however, imply that it should weigh on your mind if you "enabled" an opportunistic criminal.


However, I was also in a human-hating mood last night. I generally am after driving on the highway for hours at a time. So many goddamned stupid people out there ignorant of basic vehicular etiquette.



But
How about this one... if YOU get blackout drunk but end up at the point you are still active and loose control, and commit some kind of crime, would you put some blame on the alcohol?

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waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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the victim of rape is NEVER at fault. no matter how idiots want to spin it. that's just silly to place the blame on the victim when someone else did the act.
 

zinfamous

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But
How about this one... if YOU get blackout drunk but end up at the point you are still active and loose control, and commit some kind of crime, would you put some blame on the alcohol?

I don't think so.

I'd mostly feel ashamed for being such an idiot. Fortunately for me, the two times in my life that i have blacked-out, I've only ever injured myself and harmed no one or nothing else.

Honestly, I'm not sure how anyone can really do anything while blacked out. walking is hard enough as it is.