Wow, neighbors Corolla stolen last night!

[BUTCH1]

TIL cars are really easy to Hotwire.

What does "TIL" mean?.

 

[zerocool84]

Possibly, but it was facing forward with the doors locked and in park, of course there are dolly's that can swing a car around but that takes time and even more noise. I highly doubt my neighbor would call me and ask if I heard/saw anything last night if it was a repo.

It doesn't have to be a repo to be towed. Cars get stolen by being towed all the time.

 

[Ns1]

What does "TIL" mean?.

Today I learned

 

[waffleironhead]

An atoter who actually talks with one of their neighbors? You expect me to believe that? Yeah, nice try.

 

[Brovane]

Back in 1996 my 84 Buick Regal got stolen. Got the insurance money and moved on with my life. :thumbsup:

 

[pcgeek11]

I didn't mention "engine immobilizer" I was referring to the BCM allowing the vehicle to start. I'm rather surprised that your '12 has no protection when it has been available for 20+ years.

You didn't have to mention the Engine Immobilizer System. That is what the Chipped Key does Via the Transponder key Amplifier which is tied to the Transponder Key ECU which enables or disables the ignition system via signals ( IMO and IMI ) to the Engine Control Module. For a Toyota all of this = Engine Immobilizer System. Now you know.

I am glad my 2012 doesn't have this system. Makes for expensive key replacement and can cause other issues which I would rather not deal with. A chipped car can still be stolen, it is just a little harder than non-chipped.

 

[BUTCH1]

You didn't have to mention the Engine Immobilizer System. That is what the Chipped Key does Via the Transponder key Amplifier which is tied to the Transponder Key ECU which enables or disables the ignition system via signals ( IMO and IMI ) to the Engine Control Module. For a Toyota all of this = Engine Immobilizer System. Now you know.

I am glad my 2012 doesn't have this system. Makes for expensive key replacement and can cause other issues which I would rather not deal with. A chipped car can still be stolen, it is just a little harder than non-chipped.

Yea, I already knew that, there are different systems in place for different manufacturers. For GM the key has no "microchip" per se, just a resistance value the ignition switch is expecting to see when a key is inserted and it wirelessly communicates with the BCM (body control module) which allows a start to happen, from there the PCM (powertrain control module) takes care of all things related to engine and transmission once it's started. I'm curious as to what make of vehicle you are driving that does not use any anti-theft technology. IMPO it all comes down to a vehicle's desirability, if it's high, someone will find a way to hack it.

 

[Captante]

there are dolly's that can EASILY swing a car around AND that takes MAYBE 30 SECONDS and MAKES VERY LITTLE noise.

FTFY.


Any skilled tow-driver can pick up 95% of parked cars with a dolly faster and quieter then you would think possible, never mind if there was room for a flatbed to get in close to the front of the car. (which there most likely was)

Add the fact that Corolla's are one of the most stolen cars (for parts) and this is really no surprise. Really sucks though.

 

[pcgeek11]

Yea, I already knew that, there are different systems in place for different manufacturers. For GM the key has no "microchip" per se, just a resistance value the ignition switch is expecting to see when a key is inserted and it wirelessly communicates with the BCM (body control module) which allows a start to happen, from there the PCM (powertrain control module) takes care of all things related to engine and transmission once it's started. I'm curious as to what make of vehicle you are driving that does not use any anti-theft technology. IMPO it all comes down to a vehicle's desirability, if it's high, someone will find a way to hack it.

2012 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner SR5 with the I4, 2.7 liter engine. AFAIK all of the Tacoma V6 4.0 liter engines do have the engine immobilizer standard.

 

[BUTCH1]

FTFY.


Any skilled tow-driver can pick up 95% of parked cars with a dolly faster and quieter then you would think possible, never mind if there was room for a flatbed to get in close to the front of the car. (which there most likely was)

Add the fact that Corolla's are one of the most stolen cars (for parts) and this is really no surprise. Really sucks though.

Well, I learned something new today. There was not enough room though as she pulls up to within 3-4 ft of the house and houses in FL tend to be very close together so I "think" I would have heard a tow-tuck as I usually stay up late posting here or watching something on YT since I can sleep in in the AM.

 

[BUTCH1]

2012 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner SR5

OK, now I'm confused, why would Toyota NOT have a transponder key for your vehicle and have one for a much less expensive Corolla?

 

[pcgeek11]

OK, now I'm confused, why would Toyota NOT have a transponder key for your vehicle and have one for a much less expensive Corolla?

Good question. Are you sure the Corolla had a chipped key? Most people assume all Tacoma's have chipped keys also, but obviously they do not even today the inline 4 bangers do not come standard with a chipped key.

 

[BUTCH1]

2012 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner SR5 with the I4, 2.7 liter engine. AFAIK all of the Tacoma V6 4.0 liter engines do have the engine immobilizer standard.

Looks like your correct, link

 

[BUTCH1]

Good question. Are you sure the Corolla had a chipped key? Most people assume all Tacoma's have chipped keys also, but obviously they do not even today the inline 4 bangers do not come standard with a chipped key.

I'm not sure, my mom has an '12 so I'll check hers. I'm sure the fucking crooks are totally up to date with what the easy to steal models are.

 

[pcgeek11]

I got curious and looked up the Corolla Chipped Key Information:


Toyota Corolla key replacement

Toyota has changed the keys for the Toyota Corolla five times. What type of key your Toyota Corolla requires depends on what year your car was made. Below we will list the type of the keys for the Toyota Corolla by the year:

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, or, 2004, then your car requires just a regular simple key. This key has no features and does not need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2005, 2006, 2007, or 2008, then your car requires a transponder chip key. This key has a hidden electronic chip inside, and besides cutting the key, the key needs to be programmed to the car’s immobilizer.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the year 2009, then you can have either type of the keys, a transponder chip key or a remote key combo. Both of these types of keys will need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2010 or 2011, then you can have one of three types of keys. You can have a transponder chip key, a remote key combo, or a Toyota G chip key. All of these keys will need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2012 or 2013, then you can have one of two keys. You can have a letter G chip key or a Smart key. Both of these key types will need to be programmed to your car.

To be sure what type of a key your Toyota requires, you can find out more information by providing your car’s VIN number to a Toyota dealership.

 

[Bock]

There are tools to easily bypass all of that shit. How do i know? Lost my car keys and called an auto locksmith. For $200, I got a brand new key that started my previous corolla{with the chipped key}.

 

[Red Squirrel]

There are tools to easily bypass all of that shit. How do i know? Lost my car keys and called an auto locksmith. For $200, I got a brand new key that started my previous corolla{with the chipped key}.

Yeah I would not expect any of that stuff to be too secure TBH. When Home Depot's CEO was approached about the credit card breach, his answer was "we sell hammers". Basically he was saying don't expect security from a company that does not specialize in it. I'm sure some of the newer security features in cars are decent but experienced car thieves probably know most systems. Of course they probably don't really care what kind of car they're about to steal so any security is probably better than none as they'll target cars that are easier to steal.

 

[bradley]

This thread proves how naive I truly am. Never even heard of chipped keys. Glad I ditched my car for an electric bicycle. And I made sure to buy a stealth high performance bike that almost looks like junk to a prospective thief.

 

[BUTCH1]

This thread proves how naive I truly am. Never even heard of chipped keys. Glad I ditched my car for an electric bicycle. And I made sure to buy a stealth high performance bike that almost looks like junk to a prospective thief.

Some cars will almost never get stolen because their parts are not in high demand or they are not popular to turn into ricers.

 

[The Day Dreamer]

Apparently, these so called super-savvy smart security systems aren't secure after all?

 

[CZroe]

I didn't mention "engine immobilizer" I was referring to the BCM allowing the vehicle to start. I'm rather surprised that your '12 has no protection when it has been available for 20+ years.

It's optional.

Yea, I already knew that, there are different systems in place for different manufacturers. For GM the key has no "microchip" per se, just a resistance value the ignition switch is expecting to see when a key is inserted and it wirelessly communicates with the BCM (body control module) which allows a start to happen, from there the PCM (powertrain control module) takes care of all things related to engine and transmission once it's started. I'm curious as to what make of vehicle you are driving that does not use any anti-theft technology. IMPO it all comes down to a vehicle's desirability, if it's high, someone will find a way to hack it.

I don't consider the resistance thing related at all. Even a Ninja 250 that was $2,999 new has that.

Good question. Are you sure the Corolla had a chipped key? Most people assume all Tacoma's have chipped keys also, but obviously they do not even today the inline 4 bangers do not come standard with a chipped key.

Bingo. I took my 2011 Corolla key to Home Depot the day after buying it and they told me that it wasn't a chip key.

I got curious and looked up the Corolla Chipped Key Information:


Toyota Corolla key replacement

Toyota has changed the keys for the Toyota Corolla five times. What type of key your Toyota Corolla requires depends on what year your car was made. Below we will list the type of the keys for the Toyota Corolla by the year:

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, or, 2004, then your car requires just a regular simple key. This key has no features and does not need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2005, 2006, 2007, or 2008, then your car requires a transponder chip key. This key has a hidden electronic chip inside, and besides cutting the key, the key needs to be programmed to the car’s immobilizer.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the year 2009, then you can have either type of the keys, a transponder chip key or a remote key combo. Both of these types of keys will need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2010 or 2011, then you can have one of three types of keys. You can have a transponder chip key, a remote key combo, or a Toyota G chip key. All of these keys will need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2012 or 2013, then you can have one of two keys. You can have a letter G chip key or a Smart key. Both of these key types will need to be programmed to your car.

To be sure what type of a key your Toyota requires, you can find out more information by providing your car’s VIN number to a Toyota dealership.

I don't thinks that's correct. I got the cheapest 2011 Corolla you could get (manual locks, manual windows, manual transmission) and mine appears to have no chip/transponder/remote. I got two standard keys and a valet key. The valet key can't open the trunk because it doesn't have enough teeth (trunk uses more than ignition/doors).

 

[slayer202]

Wow!

 

[highland145]

No, she lives with her mom who would have helped with the payments if needed. I have heard of some scumbag loan Co.s that will initiate a repo even after only a week goes by without the payment being made but they called the police who checked on that and no repo was made on the car.

So? Landlords start the eviction process after the same time period. Do you know why?

 

[Eug]

Some cars will almost never get stolen because their parts are not in high demand or they are not popular to turn into ricers.

Apparently my Priuses are the least desirable cars for thieves. Should I be insulted?

http://jalopnik.com/5962833/dont-want-your-car-stolen-buy-a-prius-and-youre-good-to-go

Thankfully, there is now a car that is practically un-stealable: the 2008 through 2010 Toyota Prius. Not because of some advanced anti-theft technology, you see, but because thieves don't want it.

According to this report in Bloomberg, one in 606 Priuses from the years 2008 through 2010 as of late June, compared with one in 78 of all vehicles for those model years. Here's why:

"It's a one-model car; the parts on it won't fit anything else but a Prius," John Abounader, executive director of the International Association of Auto Theft Investigators, said in a phone interview. "If you use a Camry, for instance, the engine might fit in another car. On a Prius, the engine is so different because they're hybrid."

More good news: the recovery rate for a stolen Prius is 96.7 percent, according to the National Insurance Crime Bureau report cited by Bloomberg. Maybe the Prius isn't so bad after all.

My grandson moved out to CA about six months or so ago. He's 21 but has yet to understand the sometimes brutal nature of the world around him. If he's a chip off the old block, he may never. But I digress.

His car was in front of the home where he was renting a room. Being a trusting soul, he left his laptop, tablet and his wallet in the car overnight. (I imagine he had his weed right in front of him though. A guy has got to have priorities after all.) So, his car gets stolen. They used the spare key he had in a magnetic key holder in an easily accessible place on the car. Yeah, he's a sharp one.

Anyway, the cops recovered it. The car had been detailed and was being offered for sale on craigslist. Not sure who's dumber, the owner of the thieves.

The good news though is he got free detailing for his troubles!

However, I'd say the thieves in this case are much more stupid. Craigslist, really?!? How did they expect the buyers to register the car?

 

[bononos]

........
If your Toyota Corolla was made in the year 2009, then you can have either type of the keys, a transponder chip key or a remote key combo. Both of these types of keys will need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2010 or 2011, then you can have one of three types of keys. You can have a transponder chip key, a remote key combo, or a Toyota G chip key. All of these keys will need to be programed to your car.

If your Toyota Corolla was made in the years 2012 or 2013, then you can have one of two keys. You can have a letter G chip key or a Smart key. Both of these key types will need to be programmed to your car.

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Whats the diff btwn transponder chip key, remote key combo, G chip, smart key?