Wow, neighbors Corolla stolen last night!

[Thump553]

TIL=Truth In Lending, a form required in most loans.

Eug: you made my day! I generally leave my Prius key in my sports coat pocket. The other day I changed coats, left the old one lying on the back seat with the key in pocket nearly all day-including a half dozen stops in restaurants, shopping malls, etc. and no one stole my Prius.

Hopefully I never lose that damn key though, from what I've heard it's a several hundred dollar part to replace.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Got a call from my next door neighbor, her daughter's 2013 Corolla was stolen last night, it was parked out front in a well lit area. I thought with the evolution of "chipped" keys newer cars should be difficult to steal. I told my neighbor to ask her daughter if she ever let any of her friends or ex-boyfriends borrow the car and possibly had a spare key made.

Learn to drive a piece of shit on wheels. No one wants it. No one suspects there is anything valueable in it, etc...

Just another perk of getting an old ass Japanese car (Honda/Toyota).

 

[smackababy]

here's the AMA btw

http://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycles/comments/t5shp/ex_thief_chopshop_operator_ama

I read that awhile ago and I simply don't believe it. The poster might have stolen a motorcycle once, but beyond that his story is simply a farce (like quite a few of the "real stories" told on Reddit. The sexual encounter stories are laughably fabricated).

So? Landlords start the eviction process after the same time period. Do you know why?

I never got the idea that lenders who initiate some form of repossession or eviction are bad. You have quite a long period of time on nearly every loan and lease to either come up with the money or communicate to the other party you don't have the ability to pay on time.

 

[Mark R]

There are tools to easily bypass all of that shit. How do i know? Lost my car keys and called an auto locksmith. For $200, I got a brand new key that started my previous corolla{with the chipped key}.

It depends on what type of car you have as to how easily it can be bypassed - it also varies from location to location, depending on local regulations.

For example, in Europe, any car first registered after 1 January 1998 must have a factory fit electronic immobilisers with specific security features (such as anti code-grabbing or rolling code type systems) so stuff like "resistor keys" are not legal in Europe.

There is quite a big market for replacing lost keys, etc. and the factory fit systems tend to make replacing keys very expensive - and replacing all keys exceedingly expensive (as most systems require that you already have a coded key present before you can code a new one).

As a result, a number of companies have found security vulnerabilities in the immobiliser systems, and sell exploit units which allow locksmiths and other technicians to reprogram keys and immobilisers in ways that the manufacturer had not intended.

As an anecdotal, my brother had a 2006 Audi A3. He accidentally lost one key down a drain, and then lost the other key on a night out. He called the audi stealership who quoted about $3k to have the car towed, to get a locksmith to break it, and then the ECU and immobiliser module would have to be replaced, before a new key could be supplied. My brother ended up taking the train to work, and called a "security specialist". He gave the security guy his home address and arranged to meet at 6pm with $400. He turns up at 6pm, and the security guy is just chilling. "Oh. I wanted to get off early, so I didn't wait for you to turn up. I've already reprogrammed the car. Here are your 2 new keys" - and that was that. We don't know what the security guy actually did, but we did notice that some of the normal "safety features" and "anti-lockout" features didn't work properly (e.g. if you left a key in the trunk, normally the trunk should normally refuse to shut, unless you first lock the car using a different key) - so I reckon the guy used some sort of vulnerability to flash a cracked firmware onto the immobiliser unit.

 

[CZroe]

I read that awhile ago and I simply don't believe it. The poster might have stolen a motorcycle once, but beyond that his story is simply a farce (like quite a few of the "real stories" told on Reddit. The sexual encounter stories are laughably fabricated).

I believe every word. I know enough about motorcycles to understand the things he points out. Only a pro bike thief would think about most of those things, like dropping a brake rotor to defeat a disc lock or carrying a spare ECU to start a fancy sport bike. It makes perfect sense. I've seen enough videos on YouTube to know that steering locks are useless and thieves EXPECT to be able to break them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsPtfiQKT5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMVtKYBt5Q0

The advice about taking your clutch lever with you is pretty good.

As easy as it is for three guys to lift it into a truck/van, professional bike thieves usually ride them off.

 

[highland145]

I never got the idea that lenders who initiate some form of repossession or eviction are bad. You have quite a long period of time on nearly every loan and lease to either come up with the money or communicate to the other party you don't have the ability to pay on time.

Personal responsibility, ftw.

Here, on a repo, you have to send a 20 day notice (Right to Cure). Assuming they pay, in the future, you can pick it up any time they're more than 10 days past due. They still have 10 more days to catch it up. Landlords put the notice in the contract so they can start the eviction after the 10 days.

Butch is correct. There are some companies that would rather repo and resell for more $$. But from what I've seen, companies are trying to protect themselves. Once a person is behind on a big payment, it is very difficult for them to get caught up. So the lender/landlord are the ones that lose.

 

[Eug]

TIL=Truth In Lending, a form required in most loans.

Eug: you made my day! I generally leave my Prius key in my sports coat pocket. The other day I changed coats, left the old one lying on the back seat with the key in pocket nearly all day-including a half dozen stops in restaurants, shopping malls, etc. and no one stole my Prius.

Hopefully I never lose that damn key though, from what I've heard it's a several hundred dollar part to replace.

Do you have the auto-sensing smart key option enabled? Or do you just press the buttons on the fob? I have that auto-sensing feature enabled, and I have support for that on both my front doors as well as the hatch, so I never use the buttons on my key fob. I just leave it in my pocket all the time.

BTW, my Toyota dealer charges CAD$450 for a new key fob with programming, for the current model Prius. A third party key fob guy (that's all he does) quoted me $225 for the same thing, with OEM parts. I suspect in some large US cities, you could find it for say US$175. If you DIY, it's even cheaper, but from my readings, it's not always that easy, and the unprogrammed fobs are still pricey.

However, when I bought my used Prius Plug-in it turned out it had two fobs, so I didn't have to spend the extra cash after all.

 

[master_shake_]

easy to tell if it does have a chipped key


get some tinfoil and wrap it tight around the head of the key if it starts then you don't have one if it doesn't you do.

 

[rstrohkirch]

I believe every word. I know enough about motorcycles to understand the things he points out. Only a pro bike thief would think about most of those things, like dropping a brake rotor to defeat a disc lock or carrying a spare ECU to start a fancy sport bike. It makes perfect sense. I've seen enough videos on YouTube to know that steering locks are useless and thieves EXPECT to be able to break them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsPtfiQKT5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMVtKYBt5Q0

The advice about taking your clutch lever with you is pretty good.

As easy as it is for three guys to lift it into a truck/van, professional bike thieves usually ride them off.

The clutch lever never made sense to me. I've never hand an issue clutchless shifting any bike I've owned. This includes 1st to 2nd gear. If someone removed their shift lever then it would be a bit more annoying. Either way if you repeated the process then someone would just order a replacement and bring it with them the next time they decided to strike. My only idea for a drive off would be to hide a very small switch that cuts the coil ground. The thief would have to take the tank off and look around which would be a long process.

 

[CZroe]

The clutch lever never made sense to me. I've never hand an issue clutchless shifting any bike I've owned. This includes 1st to 2nd gear. If someone removed their shift lever then it would be a bit more annoying. Either way if you repeated the process then someone would just order a replacement and bring it with them the next time they decided to strike.

It doesn't prevent stake-out-and-plan thefts, it reduces thefts of opportunity when you go somewhere and park publicly.

I have no problem with clutchless shifting either, but I am familiar with my bike and not running. Twice I've had my clutch cable broke and twice I had to finish riding home without it.

Someone unfamiliar with your particular bike is not going to want to deal with it. They have no idea what amount of throttle it'll take to start from 1st without stalling because there is no slip/friction zone. Getting in and out of neutral will present a problem. They can't safely run when riding like that. While it will not be a problem for you or me, it WILL be a problem for them.

I reversed my rear axle like he suggested to prevent easily removing my rear brake disc. He's got plenty of good advice.

 

[rstrohkirch]

I mainly ride converted supermotos and have 0 security. If someone wanted it they could just kick it and ride away. I've always just carried good insurance. I may think about the clutch lever thing.

 

[smackababy]

I believe every word. I know enough about motorcycles to understand the things he points out. Only a pro bike thief would think about most of those things, like dropping a brake rotor to defeat a disc lock or carrying a spare ECU to start a fancy sport bike. It makes perfect sense. I've seen enough videos on YouTube to know that steering locks are useless and thieves EXPECT to be able to break them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsPtfiQKT5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMVtKYBt5Q0

The advice about taking your clutch lever with you is pretty good.

As easy as it is for three guys to lift it into a truck/van, professional bike thieves usually ride them off.

Knowing about things and writing about how you lived a life of crime, never got caught, and made thousands of dollars over the coarse of your life running a chop shop are completely different things. I could write you a nice novel about how I got away with killing hobos / transients for 20 years, but that doesn't make it any more true. I don't doubt any of his advice, it all sounds good. I just doubt that he was some kind of criminal mastermind.

 

[BUTCH1]

Learn to drive a piece of shit on wheels. No one wants it. No one suspects there is anything valueable in it, etc...

Just another perk of getting an old ass Japanese car (Honda/Toyota).

Hate to break the bad news to 'ya but an "old ass Japanese car" is one of the most frequently stolen types. This was before better security was in place and what ricer would not want a '92 Integra/Civic/Corolla, if I owned one of these I would consider the ignition fuse with the toggle switch deal or another type of means to disable it. The insurance Co's are not going to give you anywhere near the true value of the car if it gets jacked.

 

[Eug]

The top two stolen cars in the US in 2013 were the Honda Accord and the Honda Civic. And yes, it's mostly the old ass versions, not the latest ones, because the old ones are easy to steal and the parts are in high demand.

 

[ultimatebob]

Don't forget that there are also universal remotes available for door lock and remote car start remote controls. We had a car thief break into an entire row of cars in my neighborhood with one of those.

 

[BUTCH1]

Don't forget that there are also universal remotes available for door lock and remote car start remote controls. We had a car thief break into an entire row of cars in my neighborhood with one of those.

What kills me is the NSA spends ungodly amounts of $$ to filter through everyone's email's and Google searches so you would think someone trying to buy/build one of these remotes would get flagged. Anyway my GM car has the remote start feature but you can't drive it until you enter the car and put the key in the ignition, nothing will work, throttle, steering, shifter are all inoperable while it is in remote mode. My concern sometimes when I use it is someone might think it's an aftermarket one and smash out the window thinking they will be able to hop in and drive off.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The top two stolen cars in the US in 2013 were the Honda Accord and the Honda Civic. And yes, it's mostly the old ass versions, not the latest ones, because the old ones are easy to steal and the parts are in high demand.

Define "old ass".

2008 isn't old ass, yet most people think they are from the stone-age

 

[SKORPI0]

ATOT must be slow. Pics of "neighbors daughter" or shens....

Updates if/when they find the car.

 

[BUTCH1]

ATOT must be slow. Pics of "neighbors daughter" or shens....

Updates if/when they find the car.

Meh, she's 6/10 and we've been neighbors for 20 years, it would be kinda creepy for me to take pics of her since I've known the family when she was 3-4 years old.

 

[Ichinisan]

Crazy, does that make you think about moving?

One night not long after moving into this house, my wife went out to her car only to find crap all over the place. Someone opened the glove box, console, etc and threw it all over the place. Nothing was stolen (change was still there, etc) it was just a few mins to pick all the stuff up.

After talking to the neighbors, we found other neighbors with similar experiences. They also had a good idea which neighborhood kid was doing it and when we confronted him, he pretended like his mom was a "victim" too, but you could tell he was kinda covering himself.

But up until we found out who it was, we were like where did we move to??

Why did she have feces in her glove box?

Seriously, though, did the kid seem like a prescription pill addict?

 

[CZroe]

What kills me is the NSA spends ungodly amounts of $$ to filter through everyone's email's and Google searches so you would think someone trying to buy/build one of these remotes would get flagged. Anyway my GM car has the remote start feature but you can't drive it until you enter the car and put the key in the ignition, nothing will work, throttle, steering, shifter are all inoperable while it is in remote mode. My concern sometimes when I use it is someone might think it's an aftermarket one and smash out the window thinking they will be able to hop in and drive off.

Flagged... and then what? They aren't supposed to be spying on their own citizens and their whole justification is that the meta data and such on every American is only "incidental." They couldn't claim that if they actually did anything with it that led to prosecution (though they supposedly have tipped of the DEA about things and told them to say that they got the info from elsewhere).

Anyway, you can't complain that they have it and then complain that they didn't use it. They can't be allowed to use it or else we are no longer protected from unreasonable search and seizure.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Don't forget that there are also universal remotes available for door lock and remote car start remote controls. We had a car thief break into an entire row of cars in my neighborhood with one of those.

LOL yeah I believe it. One time I was just sitting in my car with the windows down and it turned off, just waiting for a poutine at a chip stand. Randomly the lights inside the car turn on and the doors lock or unlock (did not notice I just heard the solonoid). I was like "that's weird" then realized it was probably someone's key unlock fob that happened to match my car. I imagine the newer cars probably use a bit more security like some kind of two way encryption/challenge kinda thing so you can't just sweep a bunch of signals till all the cars unlock.

That car got "broke" into twice, I either forgot to lock the door or it was someone who used this same technique. Freaking druggies will do anything for a couple quarters in your cup holder. I sometimes wonder if I'm better off just leaving it unlocked anyway, but then some thieves are too lazy to bother breaking a window so at least it stops those ones.

 

[AdamK47]

If anything is recovered it's going to be a shell. All parts worth selling will be taken off of it.