wow! Fundamentalist Islamic Forums

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: etech
Looks like some interesting discussion might be had there.

One caveat though, most of the Arab forums I have been on banned anyone that had a dissenting view rather quickly.

I was and still am a member at one that you were banned on and you know my stance. You have to be diplomatic in your replies on the forum, especially considering 100% of the mods and 95% of the users are against you. You have to keep in mind that they live under regimes that endorse hateful lies as well.

In my brief stay my eyes were opened on the living conditions that the Palestinians were subjected to and I opened a few eyes on "real" history not the lies that they were taught in school. A large majority of these people have been indoctrinated into hatred of any Western idea or person as well as freedom. The US, being the example of Western idealogy and freedom, is the perfect target for their hatred. All you have to do is listen to them and allow them to listen to you. You can't call their prophet a pedophile even if he really was . You can ask why the "Greatest" prophet the world has ever known married a 12 y/o, stole the wife of a cousin and married 14 women considering that the scripture he was preaching said that you could only have a couple. My thesis paper in my religion class was to explain the contradictions of Mohammed and his religion. One of the class members was a Muslim and I even opened up his eyes on things that he was kept in the dark about.

 

[Czar]

Nitemare,
you talking about that egyptsoccer forum?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: etech
Looks like some interesting discussion might be had there.

One caveat though, most of the Arab forums I have been on banned anyone that had a dissenting view rather quickly.

I was and still am a member at one that you were banned on and you know my stance. You have to be diplomatic in your replies on the forum, especially considering 100% of the mods and 95% of the users are against you. You have to keep in mind that they live under regimes that endorse hateful lies as well.

In my brief stay my eyes were opened on the living conditions that the Palestinians were subjected to and I opened a few eyes on "real" history not the lies that they were taught in school. A large majority of these people have been indoctrinated into hatred of any Western idea or person as well as freedom. The US, being the example of Western idealogy and freedom, is the perfect target for their hatred. All you have to do is listen to them and allow them to listen to you. You can't call their prophet a pedophile even if he really was . You can ask why the "Greatest" prophet the world has ever known married a 12 y/o, stole the wife of a cousin and married 14 women considering that the scripture he was preaching said that you could only have a couple. My thesis paper in my religion class was to explain the contradictions of Mohammed and his religion. One of the class members was a Muslim and I even opened up his eyes on things that he was kept in the dark about.

So, are you saying that etech isn't diplomatic?

 

[BeauJangles]

My personal favorite was the thread about how the US military sucks because it took us 5 hours and a "50:1" ratio to kill Uday and Qusay and his son. First off, there were more people in the building than that and secondly, why rush it? We had them surrounded, why run into a building a fight a close quarters battle where the defenders have the advantage when we can try and destroy them from the outside. Needless to say the people on those boards are idiots.

 

[BOBDN]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
My personal favorite was the thread about how the US military sucks because it took us 5 hours and a "50:1" ratio to kill Uday and Qusay and his son. First off, there were more people in the building than that and secondly, why rush it? We had them surrounded, why run into a building a fight a close quarters battle where the defenders have the advantage when we can try and destroy them from the outside. Needless to say the people on those boards are idiots.

I don't remember anyone posting that. Link?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Czar
Nitemare,
you talking about that egyptsoccer forum?

yup

 

[Moonbeam]

You should have seen the idiots supporting the 50 to 1 ratio and the killing here on Anandtech. It was equally sad.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Czar
Nitemare,
you talking about that egyptsoccer forum?

yup

ok, a rather good forum actually, waaaaaaaay better than the forum being discussed here:Q

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Czar
Nitemare,
you talking about that egyptsoccer forum?

yup

ok, a rather good forum actually, waaaaaaaay better than the forum being discussed here:Q

Sad thing about it is that some of them on egyptian soccer are just as bad as the other forum. Overall though ES posters are alot more intelligent and open to other views, just not being slammed.

 

[Sarcasticor]

Originally posted by: elzmaddy
Another thread: is masturbation ok?

bahahahha

Search ATOT and find out.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Czar
Nitemare,
you talking about that egyptsoccer forum?

yup

ok, a rather good forum actually, waaaaaaaay better than the forum being discussed here:Q

ES, that's the one where one of the mods got a hair up his ass and starting changing all of my posts to what he wanted me to be saying instead of what I had actually said. His racism and ignorance in the way he changed my posts was obvious and glaring.

There are a few people there that I would like to discuss events with on that forum but the outright hate that ES mod displayed keeps me off.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
My personal favorite was the thread about how the US military sucks because it took us 5 hours and a "50:1" ratio to kill Uday and Qusay and his son. First off, there were more people in the building than that and secondly, why rush it? We had them surrounded, why run into a building a fight a close quarters battle where the defenders have the advantage when we can try and destroy them from the outside. Needless to say the people on those boards are idiots.

Well I for one would have supported the why rush it scenario. Wait em out. Why be in a hurry? Why destroy it and them? We should have just let them shoot themselves... not a Muslim good thing to do... or come out and surrender. Then we'd have witnesses to lots of stuff in the higher up decision making levels..

 

[Sarcasticor]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Czar
Nitemare,
you talking about that egyptsoccer forum?

yup

ok, a rather good forum actually, waaaaaaaay better than the forum being discussed here:Q

ES, that's the one where one of the mods got a hair up his ass and starting changing all of my posts to what he wanted me to be saying instead of what I had actually said. His racism and ignorance in the way he changed my posts was obvious and glaring.

There are a few people there that I would like to discuss events with on that forum but the outright hate that ES mod displayed keeps me off.

Like you need anyone to change your posts to make a fool out of yourself?

 

[OutHouse]

Very interesting reading. Thanks for the links.

 

[elzmaddy]

From the thread 'Why did God allow this?":

democaracy is a joke and a fools ambition!
democracy is nothing but an illusion of freedom........
Al Gore got more votes in the past election yet he lost. thats democracy?
democracy is set up to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, thats the reality......
i vote some one into office because of the things he promised to do, he lied and went against his word now hes free to vote as he likes and he votes oppiste of what he said he would. he didnt get into office by merit he got there by how well he spoke, how much money he had, and the lies he said.
democracy is all lies just like when usa says they do things for peace and freedom. lies lies lies!

and

democracy failed in south america and its on its last leg in the usa
america fails to educate the people, crime is horrible high, addiction to drugs and alcohol are at epidemic levels, suicide is very high, the seperation between the rich and the poor is ever growing, criminals have more rights than innocent civilains ect ect....

Wow!

 

[BeauJangles]

First in response to BOBDN, this is the thread about our "incapable" military:
http://host44.ipowerweb.com/~trustisl/studiobb/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=1831&s=28c8fe185cf7961ed077ff78a6f7009e


I also have to address this thread: http://host44.ipowerweb.com/~trustisl/studiobb/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=216&s=28c8fe185cf7961ed077ff78a6f7009e

Is there really that much ignorance in the world? That people deny the Holocaust (as some do in that thread). What I don't understand as well is the hate of Jews. In traditional Islam Jews and Christians were to be respected, because they saw "part" of the whole truth (ie, by not recognizing Mohammed as another prophet they hadn't accepted full truth). I just can't believe that people would still have such hate for Jews...

 

[BeauJangles]

They hate the West for hating them. I just can't believe how much they hate Jews and blindingly hate the West. I don't blame them in many ways, they have been treated poorly, but "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind." I wish people could just lay down their guns and, for one day, speak truthfully and respectfully with others. I don;t think the world's problems would be solved, but it would help out many of them..

 

[SnowyEnigma]

Originally posted by: LocutusX

Originally posted by: SnowyEnigma
A little thought I'd like to share with them.

Why waste your time? It's clear they have more pressing matters on their mind... such as converting the entire populace of Earth to Islam.

I just do it for fun

 

[AnImuS]

Originally posted by: Brie

Originally posted by: AnImuS
my favorite statement:

pakmuslim: "When we nuke your ass then maybe you will think differnet......U Coward vultures only attack the people u weaken by sanctions then like a vulture attack the dying carcass....u happy u won against Iraq and Afgahnistan.....We have a Good Navy.....Modern Jets....and Nuclear Missiles.....America will think 20 times before attacking us...

we have our ally China with us......Take North Korea's example the *beep* coward United Snakes doesn;t attack anyone who can fight back.....America has had military sanctions on Pakistan since I dunno how long and we still have Nuclear Bombs.....Medium Range missiles....Modern Jet Fighters...Our own Jet Fighter whose development is almost complete....a good Navy..
In your face America. Your sanctions only make us stronger more determined and self reliant ! "

can you feel the love!

Ok ill bite...How is this any different than our forum. The only thing that they understimate is our military strength and resolve. I do also believe that another superpower once placed sanctions on us which only made us (America) stronger. We also nuked Japan and they felt differently about us. Whats your point...we have warhawks also... Although, AnImuS, the second post does make a very convincing case for our war in Iraq. The poster claims what I have been arguing for a long time. America has a strong military which could defeat *probably* any nation on earth. What we need is a real CONSISTANT policy in the Middle East. In 200X what is going to happen when we reverse our policy in the Middle East. What are we the military to do...all of the bombs in the world wont solve the problem since we do not understand the problem to begin with.

There is no differenece alot of these people(on both sides) are blind by religion. I just find it very pathetic people can be this close minded on topics. thats about it.

 

[Brie]

Originally posted by: elzmaddy
From the thread 'Why did God allow this?":

democaracy is a joke and a fools ambition!
democracy is nothing but an illusion of freedom........
Al Gore got more votes in the past election yet he lost. thats democracy? yes only fanatics would claim this
democracy is set up to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, thats the reality......Are you denying the income gap?!?
i vote some one into office because of the things he promised to do, he lied and went against his word now hes free to vote as he likes and he votes oppiste of what he said he would. he didnt get into office by merit he got there by how well he spoke, how much money he had, and the lies he said. WOW that just never happens...these people are just so insame for making these remarks

democracy is all lies just like when usa says they do things for peace and freedom. lies lies lies! When you consider our shifting policies in the Middle East this isnt that hard to assume

and

democracy failed in south america It hasnt?!? We have such a wonderful record down there i dont understand how this poster can state that and its on its last leg in the usa
america fails to educate the people, crime is horrible high, addiction to drugs and alcohol are at epidemic levels, suicide is very high, the seperation between the rich and the poor is ever growing, criminals have more rights than innocent civilains ect ect....Again...all of these things are rehashed every day in this forum...I should call the FBI and alert them to the fantic posters in our own forum

Wow!

What are you somehow shocked?!?...I bet half of America has stated one or more of those comments...

 

[optoman]

I just found this thread and went over to the other site to read a little and I am truely disturbed.

In addition, France, with a Muslim minority equal to 10% of its population, is shrinking in population due to the low fertility rate of French women. However Muslim women in france have a very high fertility rate. As a result, France is likely to have a Muslim majority by 2060 or 2070.

Since when did French women has a low fertility rate? I need to join up over there and have a word with these people.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: optoman
I just found this thread and went over to the other site to read a little and I am truely disturbed.

In addition, France, with a Muslim minority equal to 10% of its population, is shrinking in population due to the low fertility rate of French women. However Muslim women in france have a very high fertility rate. As a result, France is likely to have a Muslim majority by 2060 or 2070.

Since when did French women has a low fertility rate? I need to join up over there and have a word with these people.

If you do join up and post, be polite. There's already a couple people over there that only shout insults.

 

[magomago]

What is think is important to note is the fact that it seems in their comments repeatedly its a "All or nothing" deal - as if there is no dealing with "the west" and its seen in comments such as that with France. Why do they say this - that is what we need to find out because until then we will have "our side" backing Grahm in his efforts to convert the world and we'll have "their side" doing the same thing but with a different religion.


And why should the religous composition of a country shift matter THAT much? If its democracy...its democracy, no? I could care less what the dominat religion in the USA is...

 

[LocutusX]

Here's another one:

http://www.obm.clara.net/jihad.html

From this page:

3. The preparation of the people to embrace Islam or to accept the Islamic way of life
4. The preparation of themselves to be the front line of the coming Khilafah i.e. to become strong and united in order to become the fifth column which is able to put pressure on the enemies of Islam and to be able to support the Muslim Ummah world-wide.

2. Bonding the Muslim community in the West with the Muslims globally in order to create an unbeatable bond within the Ummah and for them to be part of the preparation for the world-wide Islamic revolution

Interesting times, these are.

 

[DaiShan]

salaam

as promised by Allah the eventual victors will be the Muslims and Islam will prosper.
our losses in countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan should not make us weak, instead they should motivate us and strengthen our faith so we may help our brothers and sisters. the kafir actions nowadays are helping the muslims to come back to their religion and there is no more choice of being inbetween good and bad. Inshallah the khilafah will come back soon because muslims are beginning to realise what happens to them when they beg down to the kuffar.

May Allah help the muslims establish the Khilafah during our lifetime
May Allah make us help the Muslims to establish the Khilafah
May Allah strengthen the bond between muslims to make the Khilafah a great success and everlasting

I took a history of the middle east course, and one of the things we learned was that in much of arabic history, when what we consider wars are lost or won, they would consider it only like one round in a whole scheme. So they would see us as having one the first two times, but they have another 10 rounds left before it is over.