Well, "meaningful crypto profits" in this scenario, would be on the order of cents, not dollars, but yeah, unless the coin in question was worth a quite a bit, a few minutes of CPU mining might not amount to much. (Though, for the website operator, if they did pool-mining with all of their visitors, maybe it would amount to something tangible?)The problem is that you can't really get a meaningful amount of crypto profits with just CPU mining, and GPU mining from a browser is likely going to cause problems for people with outdated video drivers.
I was like, what the hell is Coinbase Pro? Then I searched and found that's the rebranded GDAX. Yeah, I'd agree.If it isn't Coinbase Pro, Binance, or maybe Poloniex, I don't touch them.
The problem is that you can't really get a meaningful amount of crypto profits with just CPU mining, and GPU mining from a browser is likely going to cause problems for people with outdated video drivers.
Binance I feel is legit, but I'm not 100% on the security.
One to add: Gemini
So, in a near-future world out there, where the "entry-level" CPU is a Ryzen-family 6C/12T or i5-8400/9400(F), then CPU-mining might still be worth-while, if web-site operators had that option. I wasn't so wrong.Stuff like XMR is CPU-mineable. Rome would be an XMR beast. Heck 16c Zen2 would be beastly.
whats this???Crypto is bad enough for the environment when mined on asics and gpus. Just imagine when people mindlessly click an opt in to allow it from their browser, or worse.
mindlessly click an opt in to allow it from their browserwhat are you asking about?
mindlessly click an opt in to allow it from their browser
That's why I proposed using the Netscape Plug-In API to map certain "crypto URLs" to plug-ins, and then the mining could happen in native code. (Yes, I know the eventual goal is to eliminate most plug-ins, due to security risk issues, but for now, it would work.)Mining using something like Javascript in the browser is super inefficient, too. The Nimiq guys tried it, and found that it only mines crypto about 1/4th as quickly as a dedicated mining software program.
Sadly, most sites wouldn't even bother offering an opt-in. They would just start the mining engine in the background automatically.
Mining using something like Javascript in the browser is super inefficient, too. The Nimiq guys tried it, and found that it only mines crypto about 1/4th as quickly as a dedicated mining software program.
would an antivirus program catch it and/or stop that?Sadly, most sites wouldn't even bother offering an opt-in. They would just start the mining engine in the background automatically.
Mining using something like Javascript in the browser is super inefficient, too. The Nimiq guys tried it, and found that it only mines crypto about 1/4th as quickly as a dedicated mining software program.
Netscape Plug-In API
would an antivirus program catch it and/or stop that?
I'm not so sure about them sometimes. I found them to be a pain in the arse to use. With GDAX/Coinbase Pro being out there, I didn't much see the point. Some folks like them, some folks don't.
I'm also not sure if I want to give the Winklevoss twins even more money than they already have. They already made enough from suing Facebook, no?
would an antivirus program catch it and/or stop that?
You can be absolutely sure of getting a guaranteed profit and full return on your investment.
Yeah, yeah, sure buddy. No legitimate investment opportunity would say that you are "sure" of "guaranteed profit", that I know of, anyways. Pretty-much any investment that I know of, involves SOME sort of risk, and no legitimate investment offering, would fail to mention that in a disclaimer.They are trusted and legit. I have made a lot of bitcoin from them.
I hate the fact that browsers even allow sites to just run arbitrary code like that. If they can mine crypto and have full access to your GPU(s) imagine what else they could do if they really wanted to. Actually I'm surprised the malicious crypto ones don't just load a Windows service on your machine so it keeps mining even once you get off the site.
That said, I could see some neat applications for web based mining if done with consent.
All javascript is "arbitrary code", and always has been. Browser sandboxing has been a thing for a long time. No, "arbitrary code" is not going to install a windows service.
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Clearly the sandboxing can be bypassed if they can access your GPU(s) to run code on it.
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Sounds like you have much bigger problems than browser js.Kind of like when you land on a bad site and it starts loading crap in your machine and you get extra icons on your desktop.