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Schadenfroh

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Priest is the best for 1v1 PvP if played correctly, but it is the hardest class to play, IMO.
 

chowmein

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as a L35 Hunter my DPS is among, if not the best, of all the classes of my level. On normal attacks w/ pet i can deal 70-80 DPS. My crit strike is maxed out so I can reach 90+.

PvP i'm terrible but, i have killed shamans, druids, locks and even a warriors that are 4-5 lvls above me.
 

fs5

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Priest is the best for 1v1 PvP if played correctly, but it is the hardest class to play, IMO.

not against an equally skilled shaman. Earthshock and grounding totem own any priest.
 

Concillian

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Originally posted by: torpid
Seems to me that priests are somewhat lacking in soloability and over abundant in groups.

I dunno what priest you're talking about, but my so far only Holy tree priests do pretty well soloing two or three yellow mobs at a time if they need to. Definitely have an easier time soloing sub 30 than my warrior does for instance. They don't kill FAST like my rogue, but do pretty well at handling tough situations. Once you get 2 points into improved flash heal, you are virtually unkillable in most solo PvE situations.

(horde priest is 2 bubbles from level 30, alliance priest is half way though level 28)

I can understand if you're comparing him to a hunter, who is like THE solo PvE class. But solo PvE is pretty easy with any class. At least sub-30 (I have 8 characters of various classes that are level 30 or less and only one above 30... I like variety)
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Concillian
Originally posted by: torpid
Seems to me that priests are somewhat lacking in soloability and over abundant in groups.

I dunno what priest you're talking about, but my so far only Holy tree priests do pretty well soloing two or three yellow mobs at a time if they need to. Definitely have an easier time soloing sub 30 than my warrior does for instance. They don't kill FAST like my rogue, but do pretty well at handling tough situations. Once you get 2 points into improved flash heal, you are virtually unkillable in most solo PvE situations.

(horde priest is 2 bubbles from level 30, alliance priest is half way though level 28)

I can understand if you're comparing him to a hunter, who is like THE solo PvE class. But solo PvE is pretty easy with any class. At least sub-30 (I have 8 characters of various classes that are level 30 or less and only one above 30... I like variety)

I haven't played warrior, but I have played paladin to 43, rogue to 20, hunter to 55, mage to 25, druid to 20, and priest to 27. Priest is by far the most difficult PvE. Druid was tough from 10-12, though.

Which is to say that at some levels in some zones, all is fine. But in some situations the priest has an extremely difficult time. The only tough time for mage was up to level 10, which was equally difficult for a priest. But as a mage of the same level, I can blink, mana shield, polymorph, and frost nova, all of which can help me to escape. Not to mention conjure food and water, which are a lot better than spirit tap. The priest has only the fear type spell and power word: shield. And shackle unead, if you want to count that (which is pretty useful in darkshire, BTW).
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Priest is the best for 1v1 PvP if played correctly, but it is the hardest class to play, IMO.

not against an equally skilled shaman. Earthshock and grounding totem own any priest.

Mana burn and silence cannot correct this?

EDIT: I have never fought a shaman, im Horde.
 

ggnl

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I voted mage, they are great in pvp and essential in endgame groups.

Priests come in second for the same reasons, but mages win because its more fun to nuke than heal. :p
 

MrYAK

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I picked shaman. have you seen on thottbot what spells a shaman does and what not? i hate PvPing agaist them with my lvl 56 mage. rogues are really only good for PvPing. If you wear cloth and dont get the jump on a rogue, consider yerself dead. Pallies got the nerf, but if you set up yer talents points right, you can do the same amount of damage before nerf. i would think being a warrior would be boring. i think preist is one of the most usefull chars in the game in any circumstance. druids are underrated, they can tank, heal, rez, and use 2H weapons(ie mace)

point is, everyone has there place. it just depends on what you want to do in the game.
 

fs5

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Priest is the best for 1v1 PvP if played correctly, but it is the hardest class to play, IMO.

not against an equally skilled shaman. Earthshock and grounding totem own any priest.

Mana burn and silence cannot correct this?

EDIT: I have never fought a shaman, im Horde.

Mana burn costs a 3 seconds (2.5 seconds with talents) and can be made immune with grounding totem. Earthshock also interupts spell casting with a 6 second cooldown. You're better off trying to get off a mindblast (1.5 second cast).

Silence is 45 second cooldown, so no.

Not to mention fear can be made immune by grounding totem.

Try dueling a GOOD shaman if you're horde. I can easily beat shaman who don't know how to play their class, but a good shaman I have to get very lucky. (lvl60 shadow priest.)
 

Concillian

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Originally posted by: torpid
The priest has only the fear type spell and power word: shield. And shackle unead, if you want to count that (which is pretty useful in darkshire, BTW).

I almost never use fear. And PW:S is basically only used when I'm running away. Sometimes mana is a problem, but my combat style is to only cast in the first burst, then refresh my renews and SW:p, using melee and wand in between. I usually finish a 1 on 1 PvE battle with 85+% mana and life.

As a holy priest I rely heavily on my wand and a quick 1H weapon (preferrably dagger with equal weapon speed to whatever wand I'm using, but daggers tend to be expensive, generally a 2.0 or less speed mace is more reasonable). If you're using a staff to solo with a priest you're gimping yourself. wand then melee during the cooldown will get you far more dps, and during that time your mana can regenerate while renew is keeping your health up and SW:p is also doing significant damage. For the wand use, try firing the INSTANT you start your melee animation. You won't see the melee number scroll over the head of the mob, but it will have done its damage. Once you get the timing down wand + melee gives quite a bit more damage than either one does alone.

Generally the only direct damage spell I cast in solo PvE is Mind blast, and that's only on the initial pull. If they're a runner, depending on the severity I may cast it just before they break away and start running (most mobs ditch at 15% which is generally low enough that MB will kill them)

Any time I would use PW:S, flash heal is a better choice. It's far more mana efficient for the damage mitigated and With 2 points in Imp Flash heal I don't have a problem getting them off because of mobs hitting me. Getting to level 10 is somewhat a chore, but once you start getting points to put into renew, and then spiritual healing things get a LOT easier. Then once you get past subtlety and get to Imp. Flash Heal you begin to approach paladin levels of not dying without being quite so boring to play (I only got my paladin before 13 before I realized how boring it was going to be and giving up)

I can see a shadow priest having significantly more mana problems at lower level, but I imagine once you start getting into the bottom of the shadow tree you'll get significantly more efficient. With the higher level shadow talents, you up the efficiency of one of your damage dealing skills dramatically. I can also see why you might be so dependent on PW:S. That would suck too, PW:S is such a mana-hog.
 

CrowDog

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Clearly with the varied responses you can see that there isnt a "best" class....theres just not. Any class can be mastered...and if you fight someone that has masterd thier class...lookout.

I enjoy my dwarf hunter, I can solo very well. And Im no pushover when it comes to PVP either, the hunters ability to slow and stun targets is very nice:)