Wow....390hp, 390 lb/ft of torque, 2003 Mustang Cobra!

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BadNewsBears

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High 11? That sux. I lived by some dude n his SHelby gt500 did LOW 9. Everything was replaced, cams heads,shafts, rods.
 



<< High 11? That sux. I lived by some dude n his SHelby gt500 did LOW 9. Everything was replaced, cams heads,shafts, rods. >>


It's a stock car you gimp.
 

SyahM

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Nice!! but since I'm asian, I would prefer an S4 ... why? well, because of it AWD ... Mustang is a nice car, but i think the old design looks better.
 

Renob

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WE have a 88 Ford Mustang and I cant wait to get rid of it. I've been pestering my dad to get my Mom a nice SLK

your dad has the greenbacks for a SLK but yet your mama drives around in a 88 mustang, that is very strange.


BTW I think the new mustang is very cool
 

Blades

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the new mach1 is supposed to be posistioned between the GT and the cobra. They also delayed it till like 05.. you got a long wait buddy.
[sarcasm]Hah. yeah high 11s suck, i do that in my 4dr F-150 for kicks[/sarcasm]..

What does being asian have to do with getting an S4?!?! Oh and guess what, the new S4 is going to have 340 hp.. impressive.
 

geno

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<< Oh and the SVT Focus gets .91g's on the skidpad, same as the M3. >>


Skidpad figs don't mean too much, a McLaren gets something to the tune of .88g on the skidpad, same as my 89 Shelby. Tell me if they corner alike?



<< It's 4 cylinder N/A was co-developed with cosworth technology >>


Oh, so I guess the 170HP it puts out is that much more amazing then? :p I just think it's funny when a company puts out a "specialty" car that's weaker than their competition's standard models. Look at the sentra SE-R VSpec, a dull 175HP, yes it can corner, but at least make it fast, it IS a special edition of that model :disgust: My point is, there's many other cars in the price range that are faster, and previous generations of cars that are as fast (I'm sure an Integra GSR could keep up with one of these). So in conclusion, the "SVT" focus is a joke compared to SVT's other offerings, but I commend Ford on at least trying.
 

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<< Nice!! but since I'm asian, I would prefer an S4 ... why? well, because of it AWD ... Mustang is a nice car, but i think the old design looks better. >>


RWD is a true handling layout. AWD may give you better feel and more control, but compared to RWD, it's much more forgiving and understeers more than a RWD setup does. If you live in a snowy area, you have your reasons, but for people who say AWD handles better, I say *nyah* :p



<< I lived by some dude n his SHelby gt500 did LOW 9. >>


I sincerely hope he didn't trash a GT500 just to make a drag car :|
 

Blades

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The ford focus (17k base price) is not a 55k cobra R, or a 30k cobra, or a ~35k lightning... compare it to the successor of a svt countor and they did a great job. The car has a 6 speed and is very fun to drive (read this, not experience yet) and the only thing i see equaling it for the price is the new Hyudnai Tiburon. The Mclaren was a boat compared to your shelby which is why the skidpads are about the same but that is no reason you should say that skidpads dont matter.
 

geno

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<< The Mclaren was a boat compared to your shelby which is why the skidpads are about the same but that is no reason you should say that skidpads dont matter. >>


WHAT?? The McLaren weighs 400 lbs LESS than my tiny car, it's not a boat. And I never said they didn't matter, you should read more carefully. I said they don't mean much, they only dictate the roadholding ability of a car, not it's handling characteristics.
 

Ramses

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I just cant talk myself into spending that kinda money on a late model car. I can build any number of cars from years ago to perform as well or better and have all the creature comforts, and most importantly NOT have such agrivating to work on systems on it. I guess if you just plain old want one for the looks or something that's fine, but geez.
 

bozack

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I agree that the New 2003 cobra with the IRS and the Supercharger will be a nice car...

I think that the Mach ! mustang will fill the gap left by the Bullit mustang which was a very popular model for ford, but they chose to offer it in limited numbers.

In regards to the Foci SVT I also think it is a great car for the under 20k pricetag they are asking, but not really something I would consider as a current owner of a Contour SVT and not overly thrilled with its performance...

However from what I have read I believe the CSVT will run a better 1/4 mile than the Foci but the Foci will corner like crazy compaired to other cars in the same price bracket and compaired to the Contour SVT.

There was a review/shootout done of the Focus to two other cars in the same price bracket and the Focus beat both of them out...cannot remember where it was though
 

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<< For a laugh check out the 2002 SVT Focus >>



Looks sweet.. one of the only Fords I think I'd buy... The Mustang?? No...
 

IshmaelLeaver

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I seem to remember Ford recalling ALL of the SVT Mustangs not to long ago because they lied about its true performance.

Anyway, a SVT Focus and SVT Mustang are not a fair comparison. Try a WRC Focus vs. a SVT Mustang.

Look at the sentra SE-R VSpec, a dull 175HP, yes it can corner, but at least make it fast, it IS a special edition of that model

$17k-$18k for a 175 hp car (WITHOUT mods - the original 140hp SE-R gets over 200hp EASY with a few mods) that will last you at the very least 250k miles with minimal problems, and you have a problem with that?
You think people will buy a $28k ~250hp Sentra?
 

geno

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<< You think people will buy a $28k ~250hp Sentra? >>


Nope, because that's ridiculously overpriced. I think a 20k 200-210HP Sentra would be fair though.
 

Mill

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<< I seem to remember Ford recalling ALL of the SVT Mustangs not to long ago because they lied about its true performance. >>



Yes the 'Cobra was recalled because of lack of performance. People were having their cars dynoed and they were 10-20 hp below what ford stated. This was not entirely Ford's fault. The company that supplies the intake manifold for the SVT cobra messed up the casting of the intake and it didn't flow as well. The thing Ford did mess up was trying to reduce the size of the cat to fit exactly under the car without scraping on the road. This led to an increase in backpressure and a loss of horsepower and torque. Main reason this happened is because Team Mustang was in control of the SVT Cobra that year. Thank God it is going back to SVE.



<< the original 140hp SE-R gets over 200hp >>



What mods give you 60 hp? Different heads, cams?
 

BooneRebel

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<< the original 140hp SE-R gets over 200hp >>



What mods give you 60 hp? Different heads, cams?
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(sigh). We've gone over this so many times before. Engine mods won't give you a 60 hp increase. Adding the 'Type R' sticker to it will (and a coffee can exhaust tip will bring you up to a cool 100 hp gain!)
 

TheBullGod

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<< A souped up roller skate? hahahahahahah i happened to take this picture at a car show in conneticut. But still, you should go to hell (joking dont get all emotional).. sometimes all people can afford is a "souped up roller skate" and this thing is a damn good one, lots of engineering.. And some people actualy like it for its *gasp* looks.. Yeah thats me (compared to all the imports i see on the race scene).

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I know a friend who did that!! Said he got up to 40mph on it.
 

geno

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<< What mods give you 60 hp? Different heads, cams? >>


Heh, don't you mean differend head and a different cam? :D This is an I4 we're talking about hehe

Anyways, to get 60HP out of an N/A 4 cyl would require more than a "few" (as you put it) mods, unless those few mods include boring out the engine, porting/polishing the head and increasing the compression ($$$$) which would ridiculous to do for 60hp.
 

KokomoGST

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<< Oh and the SVT Focus gets .91g's on the skidpad, same as the M3. It's 4 cylinder N/A was co-developed with cosworth technology, which is also the tuner for the RS4 and RS6 in europe.. (The 380hp S4 and 450 hp S6), its nice 85hp/per litre N/A is great. and at 17k base price its a bargain. I want them both. >>



Cosworth? Nono... I think that's the Ford Focus RS... something us 'Muricans will never see. SVT did the tuning for the Focus stateside... dammit... a stock turbo Focus would indeed be sweet, even if it cost a few grand more than the N/A SVT.
 

BadNewsBears

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Im not a gimp. Jeepers. Im not ripping on the car. Its a very ice looking car. But I would expect more from saleen
 

Eli

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Impressive; But I wouldn't ever buy a Ford-anything. :)
 

Blades

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Opps. my reply got messed up some how. Well, i didn't mean the mclaren was a boat in terms of weight, i just mean its much bigger then a daytona. I dont want to argue about the mclaren, its a great car. But i will say that this Cobra kicks ass.. if you doubt me on that.. bring it. :p