Wouldnt a well placed bullet in the head work better?

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
It all comes down to the pansy attitude of not hurting the person that you can KILLING.

THe only reason they are being killed is because they did something so heinous that it was decided they have forfeited their right to live. Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not. I'm sure the people they killed or raped or whatever didn't have a painless time with them. I say to kill them in whatever is the cheapest way to get them off the books and not costing the taxpayers any more money.

If it takes them longer to die, too bad. They should have though of that before they did whatever they did to get sentences to death in the first place.

Guillotine works great in my book. Firing squad. Bullet to the forehead or up through the chin. If they live, then shoot them again. Bullets are cheap.

Or hell, give them a thrill while they die. Throw them out of a plane with no parachute. Then if they live through it, have someone waiting on the ground with a shotgun.

"Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not."

Because two wrongs don't make a right? Jesus Christ. There is a difference between dying and dying a painful death.

You guys are confusing emotion and vengeance with justice.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I'm a big fan of just putting them all in a pen with baseball bats with nails in them and let them all go at it. Televise it and put it on pay per view. Not only do you take care of the criminals, but you also make money to help pay for schools.

I'm seeing "Running Man" clips in my head.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: Flyback

"Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not."

Because two wrongs don't make a right? Jesus Christ. There is a difference between dying and dying a painful death.

You guys are confusing emotion and vengeance with justice.

As far as I'm concerned, where murder is concerned, Vengeance and Justice are the same thing. I know for a fact that peacefully putting somebody to sleep for killing a family member or other person close to me would not be enough. That SOB would need to suffer at least as much as my loved one suffered for me to have closure.

But maybe I'm just a spiteful @ss.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Flyback
You should instead ask whether or not it's constitutional for the state to take the life of a falsely accused piece of garbage that doesnt think twice about taking the life of another person..

fixed.

re-fixed

...b/c it happens
Not saying it is the majority of the cases...and as far as those on Death Row go, probably very minimum of occurences...but when one innocent person is put to death, the whole system becomes questionable.

Nothing humane about killing someone.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
...there truly isn't a humane way of killing someone.

rocketship into the sun? :sun:

 

[AMCRambler]

Couldn't we just get Chuck Norris to round house kick each one?

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: leftyman
why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

but its cruel and unusual

how?

A severed head 'injury' leaves the victim conscious for up to 2 minutes. That falls under cruel and unusual.

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: Flyback

"Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not."

Because two wrongs don't make a right? Jesus Christ. There is a difference between dying and dying a painful death.

You guys are confusing emotion and vengeance with justice.

As far as I'm concerned, where murder is concerned, Vengeance and Justice are the same thing. I know for a fact that peacefully putting somebody to sleep for killing a family member or other person close to me would not be enough. That SOB would need to suffer at least as much as my loved one suffered for me to have closure.

But maybe I'm just a spiteful @ss.

You won't find "closure" in the execution, anyone can tell you that much.

Yes you are justified to be very angry and "emo" as a family member. The state, however, should never have the capacity to extinguish the life of one of its citizens.

 

[Zolty]

We should go the running man route.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: leftyman
why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

I was going to suggest that.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Flyback

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: Flyback

"Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not."

Because two wrongs don't make a right? Jesus Christ. There is a difference between dying and dying a painful death.

You guys are confusing emotion and vengeance with justice.

As far as I'm concerned, where murder is concerned, Vengeance and Justice are the same thing. I know for a fact that peacefully putting somebody to sleep for killing a family member or other person close to me would not be enough. That SOB would need to suffer at least as much as my loved one suffered for me to have closure.

But maybe I'm just a spiteful @ss.

You won't find "closure" in the execution, anyone can tell you that much.

Yes you are justified to be very angry and "emo" as a family member. The state, however, should never have the capacity to extinguish the life of one of its citizens.

Want to bet?

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: Flyback

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
It all comes down to the pansy attitude of not hurting the person that you can KILLING.

THe only reason they are being killed is because they did something so heinous that it was decided they have forfeited their right to live. Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not. I'm sure the people they killed or raped or whatever didn't have a painless time with them. I say to kill them in whatever is the cheapest way to get them off the books and not costing the taxpayers any more money.

If it takes them longer to die, too bad. They should have though of that before they did whatever they did to get sentences to death in the first place.

Guillotine works great in my book. Firing squad. Bullet to the forehead or up through the chin. If they live, then shoot them again. Bullets are cheap.

Or hell, give them a thrill while they die. Throw them out of a plane with no parachute. Then if they live through it, have someone waiting on the ground with a shotgun.

"Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not."

Because two wrongs don't make a right? Jesus Christ. There is a difference between dying and dying a painful death.

You guys are confusing emotion and vengeance with justice.

No, they're not. I don't believe that we should cause these people unnecessary pain, but if it's unavoidable, I'm not going to waste any time feeling sorry for them. They earned it.

If there is a more humane way to end their lives, then let's use it. Until then, there are more important things for us to focus on. Like their victims.

 

[Sunner]

Couldn't you just lay them down on the ground and drop a big ass concrete slab on them or something?
Sorta messy I guess, but it would certainly be quick, just make the slab big enough to properly crush them

Could get expensive though, I bet most people would ask for a pretty serious increase in salary to clean up afterwards...

 

[MercenaryForHire]

While I don't debate that a single gunshot (ie, the type DeathBUA and vi_edit's wife have seen) can cause severe brain trauma without "clinical death." That's like a gang-banger/rapper/drive-by shooting - a shot to the head.

However, a three-round burst directly to the base of the brainstem is going to terminate vital functions pretty much instantly. That's where you go when you're trying to end a hostage situation - the perp is "clinically dead" before even hitting the ground, never mind having the time to pull a trigger.

- M4H

 

[dennilfloss]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

But whatever...there truly isn't a humane way of killing someone.

How about the way we kill Raven Rapax in Wizardry 8?

Chamber with 50-500ton quick release hydraulic press. Sedate them to sleep beforehand. Carry to the chamber. Let pressure plate slam down. Hose the spaghetti sauce down the drain to rinse and repeat.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: leftyman
why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

but its cruel and unusual

how?

Brain is still oxygenated.

 

[DarkThinker]

Decapitation FTW! All you members crying out cruel made me laugh my ass of, first it's one of the most painless methods of execution, it's almost instantaneous, and it sends a message out, plus last time I checked it's an execution it's supposed to be cruel in one way or another, man up people!

 

[mugs]

I have no problem with the death penalty - if the person is guilty. But considering how many people are exonerated after being wrongly convicted, it is a certainty that we have executed an innocent person at some point. If you think the life of one innocent person is a reasonable price to pay for vengeance, that's unfortunate.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Decapitation FTW! All you members crying out cruel made me laugh my ass of, first it's one of the most painless methods of execution, it's almost instantaneous, and it sends a message out, plus last time I checked it's an execution it's supposed to be cruel in one way or another, man up people!

i'm not sayign its cruel because i think its a cruel way to execute someone, i'm just saying it because thats what the government will say, which is probably the same reason everyone is else is saying it as well.

i don't see how its possible to kill someone that isn't cruel.

 

[DarkThinker]

Originally posted by: mugs
I have no problem with the death penalty - if the person is guilty. But considering how many people are exonerated after being wrongly convicted, it is a certainty that we have executed an innocent person at some point. If you think the life of one innocent person is a reasonable price to pay for vengeance, that's unfortunate.

I see, but what is the alternative? Jail for life? Is that supposed to make him feel better?

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: DarkThinker

Originally posted by: mugs
I have no problem with the death penalty - if the person is guilty. But considering how many people are exonerated after being wrongly convicted, it is a certainty that we have executed an innocent person at some point. If you think the life of one innocent person is a reasonable price to pay for vengeance, that's unfortunate.

I see, but what is the alternative? Jail for life? Is that supposed to make him feel better?

To have the possibility of later exoneration? Absolutely. How can you not agree?

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: pontifex
i don't see how its possible to kill someone that isn't cruel.

The veterinary profession does it daily. Simply falling asleep is bar none the easiest way to die, animals have the added benefit of not seeing it coming. It's a shame modern medicine hasn't embraced it's usage as well, one would think it would be popular in a death & violence based culture such as ours.

 

[JS80]

Public hangings > *

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
While I don't debate that a single gunshot (ie, the type DeathBUA and vi_edit's wife have seen) can cause severe brain trauma without "clinical death." That's like a gang-banger/rapper/drive-by shooting - a shot to the head.

However, a three-round burst directly to the base of the brainstem is going to terminate vital functions pretty much instantly. That's where you go when you're trying to end a hostage situation - the perp is "clinically dead" before even hitting the ground, never mind having the time to pull a trigger.

- M4H

This much is true concerning the brain stem but again...I've seen someone with MASSIVE brain stem damage(as in his brain stem is coming out the back of his head/neck region) and still have vital signs...the human body sucks in it's resistance to death sometimes unfortunately.

 

[911paramedic]

Sorry it took so long, was varnishing a painting.

Yes, they suffocate with heroin OD...but they have no clue. The usual response I get is "what are you doing here?" or "man, you just ruined a great high". This is after bagging them and giving narcan. With heroin their opiate receptors are so overloaded they are higher than a kite, but it also depresses (stops in some cases) their normal respiratory drive...so they suffocate.

Give a con on death row a choice and I bet they take the heroin. Quick and painless, initial bolus and keep it dripping...