Would you still tip if you knew your waiter made $10 an hour?

[rudeguy]

the better question is...when will the OP stop trolling?

Also...his actiing skills sucks.

 

[child of wonder]

Too many restaurants have waiters and waitresses.

Do I really need someone to take my order and ask me how things are going before I even take a bite, followed by the manager usually roaming around later asking me how things are?

Places like Applebees, Perkins, etc. should simply have a small computer terminal at each table. You slide your CC, order your food, and someone brings it to you -- no tips needed.

Now for a classy restaurant a waiter becomes useful. They can recommend dishes, explain things, and so forth. They actually add something to the experience and deserve a tip. When I'm just dining out with my wife and kids I'd rather save the $4-$8 I spend on the tip.

 

[BoomerD]

Yep. Here in California, waiters get paid the state minimum wage or more...($8.25/hr) Food prices are about the same as they are anywhere in the nation. Visit the national chains, and there's very little variation in prices...and when there is, it could be attributed more to other costs such as real estate than to labor costs.
I still tip at about 15%.

 

[AlienCraft]

I'll tip you 5 bucks to never make another tip thread.

Also, this space for lease.

:thumbsup:

 

[cherrytwist]

In my youth I was a banquet waiter for a mid-size country club. We were paid over $10/hr and often got decent tips for private parties. The best tip I received was from a thoracic surgeon (he hosted the party) that performed an aortic valve replacement on my father.

 

[Nebor]

Too many restaurants have waiters and waitresses.

Do I really need someone to take my order and ask me how things are going before I even take a bite, followed by the manager usually roaming around later asking me how things are?

Places like Applebees, Perkins, etc. should simply have a small computer terminal at each table. You slide your CC, order your food, and someone brings it to you -- no tips needed.

Now for a classy restaurant a waiter becomes useful. They can recommend dishes, explain things, and so forth. They actually add something to the experience and deserve a tip. When I'm just dining out with my wife and kids I'd rather save the $4-$8 I spend on the tip.

A local sandwich shop just reconfigured their restaurant from an order at the counter type arrangement, where you can refill your own drinks, etc. To a waitress type arrangement. So you have to wait for her her to get your refill, wait for her to bring out your food, take your order, etc. PLUS now I have to leave a tip on what was already a $10 sandwich\drink. It really made the experience worse in every way, and it really irritates me because I have lunch there around 3 times a week.

 

[spidey07]

A local sandwich shop just reconfigured their restaurant from an order at the counter type arrangement, where you can refill your own drinks, etc. To a waitress type arrangement. So you have to wait for her her to get your refill, wait for her to bring out your food, take your order, etc. PLUS now I have to leave a tip on what was already a $10 sandwich\drink. It really made the experience worse in every way, and it really irritates me because I have lunch there around 3 times a week.

So tell them you won't be eating there anymore because of it, and mean it. Money talks.

 

[Mike Gayner]

A local sandwich shop just reconfigured their restaurant from an order at the counter type arrangement, where you can refill your own drinks, etc. To a waitress type arrangement. So you have to wait for her her to get your refill, wait for her to bring out your food, take your order, etc. PLUS now I have to leave a tip on what was already a $10 sandwich\drink. It really made the experience worse in every way, and it really irritates me because I have lunch there around 3 times a week.

My brother worked for a spectacularly successful cafe/restaurant that did the same thing. Fuck knows why they would fiddle with a winning formula. Two years after the change they went out of business because people had stopped going. Stupid.

 

[iGas]

yes

 

[SonnyDaze]

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I tip for good service and because I want to. How much they make per hour has no effect on that.

I go with this theory. If my wait staff is pleasant/polite and is generally concerned about me having a nice meal then I will tip accordingly. I have, on very few occasions, tipped as much as 75% of my bill for supreme service.

In my area a lot of people are waiting tables as a second job and not as a primary income.

 

[guyver01]

I tip solely based on service. If the service is good.. i leave a decent tip. One of the criteria i use is waiter/waitress attentiveness. If they're constantly checking if i need anything, refilling drinks, taking away dirty dishes, they'll get a decent tip. If i dont even know who my waiter/waitress is by the time the check comes, i'll leave a penny.

 

[Texashiker]

Yes, I would still tip.

$10 is barely enough to pay your bills, much less raise a family and own a home.

Fuck knows why they would fiddle with a winning formula.

Because they think they found a better formula.

A lot of times companies hire firms / people to streamline operations, but a the changes are sometimes for the worse

 

[guyver01]

Because they think they found a batter formula.

dont mess with batter.

 

[rudeguy]

Yes, I would still tip.

$10 is barely enough to pay your bills, much less raise a family and own a home.

$10*40=$400

$400*.7 (rough after tax take home pay)=$280

Figure $50/week for gas, $100/week for groceries and that leaves $130*4=$520/month for bills.


So yes...yes I would tip. $10/hour is not shit any more.

 

[nageov3t]

if tipping was still the societal norm.

that's pretty much the only reason why I do it.

 

[bhanson]

$10*40=$400

$400*.7 (rough after tax take home pay)=$280

Figure $50/week for gas, $100/week for groceries and that leaves $130*4=$520/month for bills.


So yes...yes I would tip. $10/hour is not shit any more.

I agree that $10/hour is not really that much but $216/month for gas? $433/month for groceries?

$433 can feed an entire family.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

$10*40=$400

$400*.7 (rough after tax take home pay)=$280

Figure $50/week for gas, $100/week for groceries and that leaves $130*4=$520/month for bills.


So yes...yes I would tip. $10/hour is not worth shit any more.

Fixed?

 

[Texashiker]

$433 can feed an entire family.

My wife and I have a blended family, 3 kids on her side, 4 kids on my side. During the summer we used to spend around $600 a month on food. With an average of $400 - $500 monthly. In 2003, 2003, 2004, it was not uncommon for my wife and I to spend $200 on groceries one week, and the next week spend $100, $200 the next week, $100 -$150 the next,,,,.

Now that the kids are grown, my wife and I probably spend $300 - $400 a month on food.

In case you have not noticed, food prices have gone through the roof. What my wife and I spend on food 8 years ago to feed a family, barely foods 2 - 3 people now.

 

[HAL9000]

I don't tip. Unless they do something special. It's stupid. I don't understand why someone would.

 

[Texashiker]

I don't tip. Unless they do something special. It's stupid. I don't understand why someone would.

We have been through this in another thread about wages.

If the employees gets tips, the employer does ever not have to pay minimum wage. Tipping helps supplement the persons wages. To me its a performance based wage - do good, get a good tip.

 

[HAL9000]

We have been through this in another thread about wages.

If the employees gets tips, the employer does ever not have to pay minimum wage. Tipping helps supplement the persons wages. To me its a performance based wage - do good, get a good tip.

That's not a system worth supporting. So by not giving tips ultimately employers would have to pay their employees properly.

 

[guyver01]

I don't understand why someone would.

Because you're in Europe. Not in the United States.

It's like us saying.. "i dont understand why someone would have a queen"

it's a cultural thing. we get it. you don't have to post that in every post you make.

 

[bhanson]

My wife and I have a blended family, 3 kids on her side, 4 kids on my side. During the summer we used to spend around $600 a month on food. With an average of $400 - $500 monthly. In 2003, 2003, 2004, it was not uncommon for my wife and I to spend $200 on groceries one week, and the next week spend $100, $200 the next week, $100 -$150 the next,,,,.

Now that the kids are grown, my wife and I probably spend $300 - $400 a month on food.

In case you have not noticed, food prices have gone through the roof. What my wife and I spend on food 8 years ago to feed a family, barely foods 2 - 3 people now.

Relative costs have indeed risen quite a bit and I may be overestimating how far $433 can go, but not by that much.

My point was more so that someone making $10/hr should not be spending $433/month on food. This amount represents a significant portion of their monthly take home pay and this person is also probably living outside of their means. They need more income to be able to support that monthly food cost.

 

[HAL9000]

Because you're in Europe. Not in the United States.

It's like us saying.. "i dont understand why someone would have a queen"

it's a cultural thing. we get it. you don't have to post that in every post you make.

The difference is that there is logic to having a monarchy (granted it's outdated) but there was at one time a valid reason to have a country structured this way. I've never seen the logic in tipping.

 

[BoomerD]

We have been through this in another thread about wages.

If the employees gets tips, the employer does ever not have to pay minimum wage. Tipping helps supplement the persons wages. To me its a performance based wage - do good, get a good tip.

And has been discussed in the many tipping threads, not all states treat tipped employees as substandard humans...MOST states require employers to pay MORE than the federal "tipped employee minimum" wage of $2.13/hr...BEFORE tips are calculated.

The Federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour, and an employer is required to only pay $2.13/hr towards that. The employee's tips may be used to make up the balance of $5.12/hr...but many states have their own laws...

http://www.paywizard.org/main/Minimumwageandovertime/MinimumWageTIPRecevers


BTW, I "mis-spoke" earlier...California's minimum wage is $8.00, not $8.25.