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norseamd

Lifer
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Definitely, we need a theocracy ASAP! If there is one thing that makes sense is the follow an antiquated book of arbitrary rules!

thankyou

that comment was batshit crazy

just think about all the shit that went on when the catholic church was inolved in the matters of the state
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
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David_-_The_Death_of_Socrates.jpg

lol.... "I drank what!?!"
 

PlanetJosh

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The real answer to American politics is two words: personal responsibility. We've lost it and our state will fail because of that.
I'm not arguing against that. I'm wondering how serious the failure may be. If you mean by fail the economic, political and most importantly military collapse of the nation and by a domino effect the rest of the world, then I can live with that.
 

row

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... I'm amazed how much more at peace I am after leaving all that crap behind...

think you're confused my friend. you didn't sound like any conservatives i know, more like an angry young asshole.

oh and btw, that "peaceful" feeling you're experiencing is more than likely your brain hemorrhaging as synapses expire and cells die. the result of a progressively (haha pun, get it? probably not) confused mind.

before you know it you'll have 55,000 posts, spewing incoherent meandering verbal bowel movements and looking for validation from one of moonbeam's fractured personalities.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Conspicuously absent from this thread...stewox. Not even the possible threat of having him question himself would get him to post in this thread.

I do love all the projecting going on here by those most offended by this non offensive thread.
 

UberNeuman

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Conspicuously absent from this thread...stewox. Not even the possible threat of having him question himself would get him to post in this thread.

I do love all the projecting going on here by those most offended by this non offensive thread.

Give him time. He'll find the YouTube video to answer you... lol...
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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What a coincidence, 10 years ago I was a true liberal, who believed that we should send all our money to the government and they will provide back what we need to live, ensuring that the people who have the most children get the most money. I used to believe that corporations and profits were evil and should all be shut down, and that the workers should control the economy. I used to believe Spidey and Geosurface were crazy gun-toting bigots, but now I realize they were just brilliant debaters. Now I've come to my senses and realized what a fool I was to be a true liberal believer.

Wait, what was the point of this thread?

Wait, you mean geosurface who was actually banned for his racist posts and spidey who regularly proves his racism? Aren't you even the one whose post was quoted about geosurface being a racist when his ban was handed down?

Give him time. He'll find the YouTube video to answer you... lol...

Give you even odds bet that if he does it's something with Alex Jones in it!
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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actually geofurface is not banned from anadtech

in fact he is logged in right now and was viewing the forum a half hour ago

seems his posting priviliges were taken away for now
 

MongGrel

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If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart.
If you're not a conservative at 30, you have no brain.

Guess you're not too well off there, buddy.

The real answer to American politics is two words: personal responsibility. We've lost it and our state will fail because of that.
Seems backwards to me.
 

norseamd

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Wait, you mean geosurface who was actually banned for his racist posts and spidey who regularly proves his racism? Aren't you even the one whose post was quoted about geosurface being a racist when his ban was handed down?

he was being sarcastic

he seems like a independent
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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Wait, you mean geosurface who was actually banned for his racist posts and spidey who regularly proves his racism? Aren't you even the one whose post was quoted about geosurface being a racist when his ban was handed down?

Check your batteries.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Is this thread not about painting things in black and white? He was bad, now he's good. Subtext: Everyone who doesn't think like me is still bad.

Excellent point, well taken.....out of context, but excellent nonetheless.;)
 

norseamd

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Dec 13, 2013
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I'm mocking the OP, because it's a shit thread.

i tried to make the ultimate tornado sandwich but i think it was not epic enough a fresh bun with some mustard and melted cheese and barbeque potato chips and a pepperoni and cheese tornado the mustard was old so i had to try to wipe off as much as possible not that bad

you missed my earlier post about my shitastic sandwich
 

Newell Steamer

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Here is some wonderful conservative logic; not accepting bigotted views makes you a bigot. Never mind the person being a bigot,... because for you not accept the bigotted views, you are in fact a bigot.

//thumbs up
 

Mxylplyx

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Gradual change or sudden epiphany?

It started in Bush's second term after Republicans won control of both the house and the senate. I thought the conservative utopia was upon us, and things were going to be great. Instead, as we all know, Republicans turned out to be a bunch of frauds. They spent with reckless abandon with no concern over how to pay for it, setting us well on the road to the fiscal mess that followed. That had me a bit disenchanted. The next event happened sometime near the end of Bush's presidency when my wife experienced some symptoms that were highly indicative of breast cancer. After many sleepless nights it turned out to be nothing, but I remember towards the end being in the waiting room of the oncologists office and watching a woman who appeared to be of little means pleading with the receptionist over payment details for something. My whole view on healthcare changed in that instant. I remember lying awake at night praying that my wife didn't have breast cancer, but at least I wasn't hoping it was nothing due to not having the means to get it treated if it were. I empathized with this woman. It didnt matter whether she was poor through no fault of her own, whether she was an ex-convict, black, white, a drug addict, whatever. NOBODY in this great country of ours should be denied healthcare based on their ability to pay.

Healthcare policy was the first of many things I started to re-evaluate. The idea of American exceptionalism blinded me to many things that are wrong with this country. Other countries with universal care that think our healthcare system is nuts...they are just jealous. Many other western countries reportedly living happier lives....how can that be...we have a higher GDP and walk-in closets?? Rampant gun crime in this country....well at least we are free!! I eventually got tired of rationalizing the shortcomings of this country.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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And there it is, the bottom line, you finally got tired of having to rationalize your views. The ability to see ones errors in ones thinking is awakening.
 
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It started in Bush's second term after Republicans won control of both the house and the senate. I thought the conservative utopia was upon us, and things were going to be great. Instead, as we all know, Republicans turned out to be a bunch of frauds. They spent with reckless abandon with no concern over how to pay for it, setting us well on the road to the fiscal mess that followed. That had me a bit disenchanted. The next event happened sometime near the end of Bush's presidency when my wife experienced some symptoms that were highly indicative of breast cancer. After many sleepless nights it turned out to be nothing, but I remember towards the end being in the waiting room of the oncologists office and watching a woman who appeared to be of little means pleading with the receptionist over payment details for something. My whole view on healthcare changed in that instant. I remember lying awake at night praying that my wife didn't have breast cancer, but at least I wasn't hoping it was nothing due to not having the means to get it treated if it were. I empathized with this woman. It didnt matter whether she was poor through no fault of her own, whether she was an ex-convict, black, white, a drug addict, whatever. NOBODY in this great country of ours should be denied healthcare based on their ability to pay.

Healthcare policy was the first of many things I started to re-evaluate. The idea of American exceptionalism blinded me to many things that are wrong with this country. Other countries with universal care that think our healthcare system is nuts...they are just jealous. Many other western countries reportedly living happier lives....how can that be...we have a higher GDP and walk-in closets?? Rampant gun crime in this country....well at least we are free!! I eventually got tired of rationalizing the shortcomings of this country.
Are you happy with the Democrats solution to our healthcare system issues?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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And there it is, the bottom line, you finally got tired of having to rationalize your views. The ability to see ones errors in ones thinking is awakening.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
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The day you start earning a living, you become a real conservative.

Yep, pretty much.

I see liberalism in two different groups.

Group 1 - People who have so much money they do not have to work.

Group 2 - People who receive government benefits.

If you have to work for a living, have to pay a house note, car note, pay child support,,,, chances are you are going to be a conservative.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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It started in Bush's second term after Republicans won control of both the house and the senate. I thought the conservative utopia was upon us, and things were going to be great. Instead, as we all know, Republicans turned out to be a bunch of frauds. They spent with reckless abandon with no concern over how to pay for it, setting us well on the road to the fiscal mess that followed. That had me a bit disenchanted. The next event happened sometime near the end of Bush's presidency when my wife experienced some symptoms that were highly indicative of breast cancer. After many sleepless nights it turned out to be nothing, but I remember towards the end being in the waiting room of the oncologists office and watching a woman who appeared to be of little means pleading with the receptionist over payment details for something. My whole view on healthcare changed in that instant. I remember lying awake at night praying that my wife didn't have breast cancer, but at least I wasn't hoping it was nothing due to not having the means to get it treated if it were. I empathized with this woman. It didnt matter whether she was poor through no fault of her own, whether she was an ex-convict, black, white, a drug addict, whatever. NOBODY in this great country of ours should be denied healthcare based on their ability to pay. Healthcare policy was the first of many things I started to re-evaluate. The idea of American exceptionalism blinded me to many things that are wrong with this country. Other countries with universal care that think our healthcare system is nuts...they are just jealous. Many other western countries reportedly living happier lives....how can that be...we have a higher GDP and walk-in closets?? Rampant gun crime in this country....well at least we are free!! I eventually got tired of rationalizing the shortcomings of this country.

many conservatives in other countries actually support state medical care
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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Yep, pretty much. I see liberalism in two different groups. Group 1 - People who have so much money they do not have to work. Group 2 - People who receive government benefits. If you have to work for a living, have to pay a house note, car note, pay child support,,,, chances are you are going to be a conservative.

or you could realize that you do not have to be either liberal or conservative

libertarianism
socialism
third way

there is a wide range of political philosophy

and no libertarians are not conservatives despite conservatives trying to claim them

libertarians have been around far longer than before they became the fashionable centerpiece for conservatives

in fact libertarians might be more like anarchists