Would You Join?

thraashman · Mar 10, 2002

I have no desire to kill anyone. I'm also not gonna go somewhere else to fight someone else's war. let other countries deal with their own problems, however if some stupid country tried to invade us, I might just sign up. However I don't think I'm considered metally stable enough to be enlisted, I'd probably fail any psychiatric exam they gave me.

gopunk · Mar 10, 2002

Actually, there is. Or, at least there was the last time the draft was in effect. If drafted, you go where they tell you and learn the skill that they tell you. Little, or no choice. By enlisting, you usually have some options.

hmm, didn't know that... i'd probably get put in some non-combatant position though...

gopunk · Mar 10, 2002

Quite possibly the understatement of the year. 25 of the self-centered little pussy boys and counting. You nancy boys just sit in front of your computers/TV somebody will do this for you.

that sounds better than being goaded into service by someone else sitting in front of their computer...

UltraQuiet · Mar 10, 2002

<< that sounds better than being goaded into service by someone else sitting in front of their computer... >>

I'm sure it sounds a lot better to you and the rest of the b!tches on here doesn't it. 30 <undefined somethings> and counting....

Edited- only out of respect for Russ.

ThaGrandCow · Mar 10, 2002

I wouldn't join because I don't agree with this war

Russ · Mar 10, 2002

<< I'm sure it sounds a lot better to you and the rest of the b!tches on here doesn't it. 30 cowards and counting >>

Dave,

I don't think you can say that someone is a coward simply because they would wait for the draft. While I'm sure some answered that way because they would use the time to run for the hills, many others would go and due their duty once called. History is full of heroes who would not have served had they not been drafted.

The poll is really too simple to seperate the one from the other.

Russ, NCNE

UltraQuiet · Mar 10, 2002

<< don't think you can say that someone is a coward simply because they would wait for the draft. While I'm sure some answered that way because they would use the time to run for the hills, many others would go and due their duty once called. History is full of heroes who would not have served had they not been drafted >>

I'm not sure I agree with you on this. I'm still not sure why there wasn't long lines of people outside of recruiting offices after this country was attacked on 9/11. I think I know but then I would have to use that "c" word again. Anyway, I edited my other post..

gopunk · Mar 11, 2002

I don't think you can say that someone is a coward simply because they would wait for the draft. While I'm sure some answered that way because they would use the time to run for the hills, many others would go and due their duty once called. History is full of heroes who would not have served had they not been drafted.

The poll is really too simple to seperate the one from the other.

well said russ...

not to mention, what do you hope to accomplish by calling them names? if people are going to sign up, they should sign up because they know what they're fighting for and they believe in it, not because they're afraid of being called names if they don't.

Russ · Mar 11, 2002

<< I'm still not sure why there wasn't long lines of people outside of recruiting offices after this country was attacked on 9/1 >>

I don't know about your area, but there certainly was here. The Army recruiting station on our East Hill (major shopping area), was as busy as the blood bank. I stopped and talked with some of the kids waiting, and was surprised and overwhelmed by what I heard. Many of them had not even given it a second thought, and were there AGAINST the wishes of their parents.

Leaving that place that day, I felt much better about what had happened, because I realized that not all young people are as selfish and pampered as we sometimes like to believe.

Russ, NCNE

glen · Mar 11, 2002

They are too young to rember how badly the Veitnam vets were treated.

wQuay · Mar 11, 2002

<< there is no way I'm fighting a war that I don't believe in >>

DaveSimmons · Mar 11, 2002

I'm too old and nearsighted to serve in combat, but in a WW2 type situation where it made sense I'd be willing to serve by pushing papers or writing software.

<< I'm still not sure why there wasn't long lines of people outside of recruiting offices after this country was attacked on 9/11. >>

I guess in part because most people didn't see a real need for extra troops yet. What % of our troops are in afghanistan now, and what % are in the US waiting around?

UltraQuiet · Mar 11, 2002

<< not to mention, what do you hope to accomplish by calling them names? if people are going to sign up, they should sign up because they know what they're fighting for and they believe in it, not because they're afraid of being called names if they don't >>

I only call them what they are, pussies or cowards. Why would you wait to be drafted if there is a war on? "knowing what you are fighting for and believing it" is just a lame excuse for cowards to get out of doing what needs to be done. More than willing to live in this country and reap all the benefits, not willing to sacrifice anything for it.

b0mbrman · Mar 11, 2002

<< I'm still not sure why there wasn't long lines of people outside of recruiting offices after this country was attacked on 9/11. >>

There was a *very* short piece on one of the major networks...they were at a recruiting office and there were more people there than normal

gopunk · Mar 11, 2002

I only call them what they are, pussies or cowards. Why would you wait to be drafted if there is a war on? "knowing what you are fighting for and believing it" is just a lame excuse for cowards to get out of doing what needs to be done.

has it ever occured to you that not everybody may think the same way you do? perhaps, if they held your opinions, and still didn't sign up, they would be cowardly, but how can you assume that they do?

UltraQuiet · Mar 11, 2002

<< don't know about your area, but there certainly was here. The Army recruiting station on our East Hill (major shopping area), was as busy as the blood bank. I stopped and talked with some of the kids waiting, and was surprised and overwhelmed by what I heard. Many of them had not even given it a second thought, and were there AGAINST the wishes of their parents. >>

It was an anomaly. All the services struggled to meet their recruiting goals last year.

eshrai · Mar 11, 2002

<< where is the option for:
go to canada, go to jail or sign up for non-combative service
there is no way I'm fighting a war that I don't believe in >>

thats what i would do...i don't like wars...i think they are very elaborate ways for men to get testosterone out of their systems...
but i'm a girl...so it doesn't matter too much what i would do

gopunk · Mar 11, 2002

i think they are very elaborate ways for men to get testosterone out of their systems...

lol

probably true though... i'm not christian, but i have to agree with the general sentiment of "blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth".

wQuay · Mar 11, 2002

<< i don't like wars...i think they are very elaborate ways for men to get testosterone out of their systems... >>

Well, nearly every war is stupid and avoidable. But if the other side won't stop being stupid, you're just going to have to pound them until they do. That's when war goes from tragedy to a glorious test of a nation's character.

UltraQuiet · Mar 11, 2002

<< has it ever occured to you that not everybody may think the same way you do? perhaps, if they held your opinions, and still didn't sign up, they would be cowardly, but how can you assume that they do? >>

Of course it occurs to me that not everyone thinks like I do. I know people are fscked up. I can only assume that if someone is willing to let someone else do the fighting that needs to be done, while they do nothing ( in the context of there being a draft) that they are simply too cowardly to do it themselves. My guess is that if there really was a time when the draft needed to be implemented, the population of Canada would quadruple overnight. Every one a coward.

wfbberzerker · Mar 11, 2002

updated the pole for you pansies who refuse to fight.
and heres the situation:

China has been taken over by a fascist dictator, has united the country, and has just invaded Russia. To the east, they have invaded Japan, and the Chinese fleet is currently headed towards the United States for a full-scale fight.

b0mbrman · Mar 11, 2002

<< thats what i would do...i don't like wars...i think they are very elaborate ways for men to get testosterone out of their systems... >>

Defense is worth fighting for...If someone hits you, you don't just ask them politely to stop if they keep doing it

<< but i'm a girl...so it doesn't matter too much what i would do >>

Girls aren't allowed to care about causes? There's a huge army out there and it's only the combat arms branches that don't take women

HappyPuppy · Mar 11, 2002

In the immediate aftermath of 9/11 the military recruiting offices were deluged with requests for enlistment information. Actual enlistments remained static at the same level as those of pre-9/11. These are facts, not conjecture.

What does this mean? It means that the youth of today is focused on the 15 second sound bite. Their country was attacked and they could only feel 15 seconds of rage. After that, they went back to figuring out how they could get that blond chick from their remedial English class to go out with them.

Most of you college studs are never going to graduate with a degree anyway. The only reason you're in college is to avoid the inevitable consequences of life for as long as you can.

Just how many B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.s does the world need, anyway. Who the hell do you think is going to empty the trash and scrub the floors. The answer is that many of you "life-avoidance nose pickers" are going to be doing those jobs.

In a time of peace I wouldn't give a rats arse what you do. When things are going well, then everyone shonld do what they want. Unfortunately, now is not the time for self-absorption in the "me" generation. Why not start thinking about the big picture. Think globally. Someone has to stop these people and that means going country to country to route them out.

Color me sad.

Russ · Mar 11, 2002

<< Just how many B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.s does the world need, anyway. Who the hell do you think is going to empty the trash and scrub the floors. >>

Asked and answered.

Russ, NCNE

HappyPuppy · Mar 11, 2002

Salute Dave, Bomberman and Russ and wQuay.

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