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would you help a child who is being abducted? These people wouldn't..

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: fisher
i don't even know how to respond to this...

guess what, you were a screaming brat at one point in your life. so was i. it's called childhood. granted kids are punks these days, but that doesn't change the fact that children have temper tantrums. and their instinct to ignore was in no way correct.

First off, no I was never a screaming brat. My parents did better than that.

I haven't seen the video (won't work from my internet connection) but from what other people are saying this was a setup "let's see how people respond" type thing right?

You can completely ignore the rest of this if my assumption is wrong.

How can you fault people for their response to a contrived danger? No matter what they tried to make it look like there was no real danger. Add in that most kids can't act worth crap & who's to say if any of us would have done anything.

Viper GTS


actually the kid didpretty good.

only thing they could have changed was her yelling "help i don't know this guy!" or something instead of "you are not my dad".

but the kid did a good job. the guy did far worse then she did.
 
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."

ok......
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: fisher
i don't even know how to respond to this...

guess what, you were a screaming brat at one point in your life. so was i. it's called childhood. granted kids are punks these days, but that doesn't change the fact that children have temper tantrums. and their instinct to ignore was in no way correct.

First off, no I was never a screaming brat. My parents did better than that.

I haven't seen the video (won't work from my internet connection) but from what other people are saying this was a setup "let's see how people respond" type thing right?

You can completely ignore the rest of this if my assumption is wrong.

How can you fault people for their response to a contrived danger? No matter what they tried to make it look like there was no real danger. Add in that most kids can't act worth crap & who's to say if any of us would have done anything.

Viper GTS


actually the kid didpretty good.

only thing they could have changed was her yelling "help i don't know this guy!" or something instead of "you are not my dad".

but the kid did a good job. the guy did far worse then she did.


I don't think her screaming was realistic at all. It seemed VERY fake to me. Then again, I know it's fake...
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
ok......
I'm sorry... are you under the delusion that the news media is a public service?

You realize that this was obviously staged and editted for the purpose of showing exactly what they intended to show, right?
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: DaShen
That is pretty scary

**EDIT**
They've done psychology experiments where they would simulate a rape victim or mugging and people would stand around, but once someone made a move they would take action. We are really all sheep.

mob mentality

nobody wants to be the standout, but everyone will go to the same extreme, no matter how extreme or brutal, once everyone starts doing it together. frightening how we are, but that shows our pack-hunting instincts. its in our nature to act and move in groups, thus why people dont want to attack that guy when they are alone, but you get some people moving in (the ones who are more inclined to act on their own), the rest will quickly follow.
when i have kids, if they are ever out of my sight I'd pray that my kid would know what to do and people would step in. Even though I am not a bulked up guy, I'd probably be like those two guys. Except if someone else was around me I'd try and get them to move on the person with me.

exactly the way this forum works also.

i was just going to say that
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
ok......
I'm sorry... are you under the delusion that the news media is a public service?

You realize that this was obviously staged and editted for the purpose of showing exactly what they intended to show, right?

of course it was staged and edited to show a certian perspective. but that does not really change much.

The results are still the same.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
ok......
I'm sorry... are you under the delusion that the news media is a public service?

You realize that this was obviously staged and editted for the purpose of showing exactly what they intended to show, right?

of course it was staged and edited to show a certian perspective. but that does not really change much.

The results are still the same.

QFT
 
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
ok......
I'm sorry... are you under the delusion that the news media is a public service?

You realize that this was obviously staged and editted for the purpose of showing exactly what they intended to show, right?

of course it was staged and edited to show a certian perspective. but that does not really change much.

The results are still the same.

QFT


What if out of 10 times, 3 groups of people did not do anything while the other 7 did, but they picked all 3 that didnt act and only 1 that did?

Not quite the same.

 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
ok......
I'm sorry... are you under the delusion that the news media is a public service?

That's a pretty asinine assumption.

You realize that this was obviously staged and editted for the purpose of showing exactly what they intended to show, right?

Yes, it was obviously staged. That was the whole point. But unless the people who just walked right by knew it was staged, what difference does it make?
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
ok......
I'm sorry... are you under the delusion that the news media is a public service?

You realize that this was obviously staged and editted for the purpose of showing exactly what they intended to show, right?

of course it was staged and edited to show a certian perspective. but that does not really change much.

The results are still the same.

It changes everything. What if the supposedly insensitive people called the police off-camera? Or their act of calling the police was editted out? Did they film 100 takes of this to show only the 10 times that people walked away and not the 90 times that people ran to help?
What I find amazing is that people are so unobjective in believing what they are told to believe and what they want to believe that they don't even stop to question this... now THAT is brainwashing.
 
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Vic
Staged editted sensationalistic bullsh!t. Fascist propaganda brainwashing. "People are evil. They must be forced to do right. Pariahs must be punished."
ok......
I'm sorry... are you under the delusion that the news media is a public service?

You realize that this was obviously staged and editted for the purpose of showing exactly what they intended to show, right?

of course it was staged and edited to show a certian perspective. but that does not really change much.

The results are still the same.

QFT


What if out of 10 times, 3 groups of people did not do anything while the other 7 did, but they picked all 3 that didnt act and only 1 that did?

Not quite the same.

Ah... someone who gets it.

The power of the media is an amazing thing in this country. As just a tip-of-the-iceberg example, we have people who earnestly believe that this country has a meth problem who have never seen meth or a meth addict in their whole lives. Their reality is whatever they are told it should be.
The reason for this is that people have a strong desire for pariahs. A strong desire to believe that their perception of everything that they believe to be wrong with the world is not their fault, but someone else's. Especially a group that they can point to and then punish. The "product" (if you will) that the media sells are those scapegoats.
 
She doesn't speak very clearly. The way she was screaming it sounded like she was being a brat throwing a tantrum. If I was walking by I don't think I would have heard "help, you're not my dad" but just the yelling. However, if when I walked by she said "help me he's not my dad i'm being kidnapped" directly to me then I'd be like wtf and stop.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: DaShen
That is pretty scary

**EDIT**
They've done psychology experiments where they would simulate a rape victim or mugging and people would stand around, but once someone made a move they would take action. We are really all sheep.

mob mentality

nobody wants to be the standout, but everyone will go to the same extreme, no matter how extreme or brutal, once everyone starts doing it together. frightening how we are, but that shows our pack-hunting instincts. its in our nature to act and move in groups, thus why people dont want to attack that guy when they are alone, but you get some people moving in (the ones who are more inclined to act on their own), the rest will quickly follow.
when i have kids, if they are ever out of my sight I'd pray that my kid would know what to do and people would step in. Even though I am not a bulked up guy, I'd probably be like those two guys. Except if someone else was around me I'd try and get them to move on the person with me.

exactly the way this forum works also.

So true, I see that a lot with our AT bandwagoners™

 
I'd like to think I'd do something. It's easy to think it. I could think that I would be a badass and save the day... but realistically..

I'd probably be like, "Wow, I think that kid is being kidnapped."

😛
 
i wouldnt have thought twice, but i did do 3 years in a prison also for helping a girl who was getting her 455 beat. so not only do i not avoid confrontations i like them.
 
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