Would you buy a GM if...

[Aquila76]

Among the GM's I like the Buick LaCrosse for a full size, G6 GTP for midsize, and Cobalt SS for compact.
For those saying GM is crap, get your head out of the toilet. I've had my Grand Am for 8 years problem free.

If I were to buy any car, though, it would most likely be a Mazdaspeed6 next year.

 

[EXman]

That is the company that is the Healthcare company that also sells a few cars?

Hell I want an HHR right now!

 

[misterj]

http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp...arranty&story=manWarranty&aff=national

you'd think if domestic companies wanted to prove their reliability, they would match or surpass everyone else's warranties. i guess not.

 

[CrimsonChaos]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
Short on details, but through various means I essentially have $2500 'free' off invoice on any GM vehicle.

Would you buy a new GM? If so, what model?

I owned a Pontiac for 4 years, and had nothing but problems. While this may not represent the entire scope of GM products, I've read too many bad reviews about GM to ever consider them for a major purchase.

Cliffnotes: NO

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
go over to europe, you will see ford is a luxury vehicle over there, and you can hardly afford one. same with gm. and im not accusing them of ethnic loyalty being the reason why the big 3 are losing, but it does hurt.

Bullsh1t. I've been to Europe and have relatives living in German and London and that coulnd't be further than the truth.

BTW - You shouldn't be calling anyone "boy" like you did to some poster above. It's fairly evident that at the oldest you just learned to drive.

 

[GamerExpress]

Corvette

 

[JungleMan1]

Yes, I definitely would, GM makes excellent products, don't believe the myths promoted by the mass media that Asians are the only ones that make good cars. A few of my favorites of GM:

- Solstice
- Cobalt SS Supercharged
- GTO (I know GTO isn't that popular, but name another car this cheap with 400HP!)
- Corvette
- Impala SS or GP GXP...both are very similar
- Buick Lucerne/Lacrosse
- G6 coupe or hardtop vert
- Pretty much any Cadillac you can afford
- Any truck or SUV, they have excellent trucks and SUVs. Oh, and I mean real trucks, not that Honda unibody front-wheel-drive piece of crap.

No doubt I am forgetting a few, but GM's quality is going way up (look at all the awards they're taking!) and Honda and Toyota are proving to be fallible as well with the recent string of recalls and quality issues.

 

[bmacd]

'Burban for the win!

-=bmacd=-

 

[JulesMaximus]

no

 

[K1052]

I've owned (and still do) several GMs and would buy again.

I am seriously considering a Sky Redline when they become available.

 

[franksta]

Yes, Silverado 2500 Crew Cab with Duramax diesel

 

[oslama]

90% percent of all Asians(S.asians and Oreintals) buy Japanese.

 

[TomKazansky]

corvette or hummer only.

 

[rbrandon]

the hell with you ricers, i love my caddy. 108k and still goin strong.

 

[danklumpp]

I know someone with a (2001 maybe?) Impala, and it has really been a good car, no rattles, and runs great. Who knows, maybe they just got lucky on that car.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
go over to europe, you will see ford is a luxury vehicle over there, and you can hardly afford one. same with gm. and im not accusing them of ethnic loyalty being the reason why the big 3 are losing, but it does hurt.

ROFL!

Ford is not a luxury vehicle in Europe. They are know to make cheaper/affordable boring cars.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: JungleMan1
Yes, I definitely would, GM makes excellent products, don't believe the myths promoted by the mass media that Asians are the only ones that make good cars. A few of my favorites of GM:

- Solstice
- Cobalt SS Supercharged
- GTO (I know GTO isn't that popular, but name another car this cheap with 400HP!)
- Corvette
- Impala SS or GP GXP...both are very similar
- Buick Lucerne/Lacrosse
- G6 coupe or hardtop vert
- Pretty much any Cadillac you can afford
- Any truck or SUV, they have excellent trucks and SUVs. Oh, and I mean real trucks, not that Honda unibody front-wheel-drive piece of crap.

No doubt I am forgetting a few, but GM's quality is going way up (look at all the awards they're taking!) and Honda and Toyota are proving to be fallible as well with the recent string of recalls and quality issues.

11/10 for the sarcasm!

Well done!

 

[straubs]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
as for gm,i think they are competing with hyundai now. price are both low, but hyundai fixed their quality issues it seems. gm doesn't seem to have

Wrong. GM has fixed their quality issues. It's the perception of quality that is lacking. Just read through this post. Everyone should be required to post whether they actually OWNED a GM vehicle, so we can all take their comments with a grain of salt. Just because the common opinion that GM = low quality does not make it a fact.

 

[straubs]

Originally posted by: misterj
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp...arranty&story=manWarranty&aff=national

you'd think if domestic companies wanted to prove their reliability, they would match or surpass everyone else's warranties. i guess not.

What the hell are you talking about?

All the big parent companies have the same warranty length from that chart you linked.
Chevrolet 3/36,000
Chrysler 3/36,000
Ford 3/36,000
Honda 3/36,000
Nissan 3/36,000
Toyota 3/36,000

You might as well say "you'd think if japanese companies wanted to prove their reliability, they would match or surpass everyone else's warranties. i guess not."
That makes just as much sense.

The only ones that are higher are the Korean makes and the luxury vehicles.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: straubs

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
as for gm,i think they are competing with hyundai now. price are both low, but hyundai fixed their quality issues it seems. gm doesn't seem to have

Wrong. GM has fixed their quality issues. It's the perception of quality that is lacking. Just read through this post. Everyone should be required to post whether they actually OWNED a GM vehicle, so we can all take their comments with a grain of salt. Just because the common opinion that GM = low quality does not make it a fact.

I'm one of the people that fixes and drives new and old domestic and foreign vehicles. I wont go into specifics (if you really want to know, search my older posts), but I work in at a place that has had over 20,000 vehicles in inventory at times. Most vehicles being less than 10 years old, and some right off the assembly line. I also deal with new and used car dealers on a daily basis.

While MOST of the people that post here have experience with a couple vehicles, for the most part everything they know they read, or have heard from other people. I, on the other hand live it.

I can tell you without a doubt, that GM has NOT fixed their quality issues. Door handles fall off those thing when they come off the assembly line.

And to answer your question, no I don't own one - I wouldn't.

 

[Tbirdkid]

BTW - You shouldn't be calling anyone "boy" like you did to some poster above. It's fairly evident that at the oldest you just learned to drive.

Dude, im 31 years old. I know what is good and what isnt. Im not some punk. I support the American economy because if you dont, your just pulling it down. I pay my taxes, which are alot and i live in a commonwealth. I do my part. How about you?

 

[JungleMan1]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: JungleMan1
Yes, I definitely would, GM makes excellent products, don't believe the myths promoted by the mass media that Asians are the only ones that make good cars. A few of my favorites of GM:

- Solstice
- Cobalt SS Supercharged
- GTO (I know GTO isn't that popular, but name another car this cheap with 400HP!)
- Corvette
- Impala SS or GP GXP...both are very similar
- Buick Lucerne/Lacrosse
- G6 coupe or hardtop vert
- Pretty much any Cadillac you can afford
- Any truck or SUV, they have excellent trucks and SUVs. Oh, and I mean real trucks, not that Honda unibody front-wheel-drive piece of crap.

No doubt I am forgetting a few, but GM's quality is going way up (look at all the awards they're taking!) and Honda and Toyota are proving to be fallible as well with the recent string of recalls and quality issues.

11/10 for the sarcasm!

Well done!

Go look at the JD Power tests for yourself and the Honda/Toyota quality issues for yourself (I recall that one tester pointed out the knobs on the Avalon falling off, on TWO different test cars!). No I'm not professing that GM is perfect, nor that Toyota/Honda are bad (in fact I'd still say the Japs have the edge, but the Americans make more exciting cars and are catching up quickly in quality), but the quality gap is closing.

I had the opportunity to drive a new G6 (base model) and yes, it was slow as balls (like most cars in that range) but it was VERY well put together, just as much as any Honda. Great fit and finish. I've also driven/been in many newer GM vehicles like Yukons, Camaros, Corvettes, GTO (GTO interior is gorgeous) etc, and the newer ones do feel a lot more solid, just as much as any Japanese car.

My 15-year-old F-body, despite all the squeaks and leaks (no doubt fixed in newer GM vehicles... far better than my car built on a platform designed in the early 80s. Not to mention that my dad's 944 is no stranger to squeaks/leaks either.), has still never left me on the side of the road and has never had a major problem. My dad has used domestic (Ford) trucks for decades and his current one is on 160K miles and still going strong.

Pretty damn good to me.

 

[CFster]

See my reply two posts above, then realize that I could never take you seriously when you say "GM makes excellent products".

JD Power tests I don't take seriously either - I believe their results are biased. Reason being that a lot of domestic car buyers are life long buyers, and drive Oldsmobile's like their fathers did. They honestly believe it's normal to bring their car into the dealer several times a year for repairs and don't know any better vs. the Honda owner who just has to do oil changes and brakes. Most who end up making the transition are amazed.

Like I said above, I fix 'em, and see all manner of ridiculous problems with brand new GMs (and other domestics for that matter).

 

[CFster]

dp - sorry

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: CFster
See my reply two posts above, then realize that I could never take you seriously when you say "GM makes excellent products".

JD Power tests I don't take seriously either - I believe their results are biased. Reason being that a lot of domestic car buyers are life long buyers, and drive Oldsmobile's like their fathers did. They honestly believe it's normal to bring their car into the dealer several times a year for repairs and don't know any better vs. the Honda owner who just has to do oil changes and brakes. Most who end up making the transition are amazed.

Like I said above, I fix 'em, and see all manner of ridiculous problems with brand new GMs (and other domestics for that matter).

And you expect us to take you seriously when you state that domestic car handles just come off? Funny, I've owned around 7 domestics and never had a door handle come off. Toyota has their share of recalls. No car company doesn't. All the GM cars I've owned lasted 200,000 plus miles. A lot of how long a car lasts is due to how much maintenance you put into it. I'm not saying foreign cars aren't good, I'm just saying that domestics get a worse rap than they deserve. There was an article a few months back about the Buick Regal being the most reliable car. I'll have to dig it out.