Would You Bomb A School?

[SamurAchzar]

Originally posted by: mattpegher

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: mattpegher
If someone is firing from a school at my house then I would leave and call the police.

What "police" are the Israeli troops going to call, and wtf could any police do to stop Hamas from firing?

Remember, these are not criminals taking hostages and making reasonable demands on otherwise peaceful streets... these are terrorists who want you, and every policeman who may show up, dead. They also thrive on civilian carnage.

Your analogy is one big fail.

As most armed conflicts are in the last 50 have been police actions. Even Iraq ceased to be a war after a week. A police action is defined as engaging enemy combatants that have infiltrated into a civilian population.

Your attempt at being a human being "is one big fail".

Again patronizing over the Palestinians, aren't we? The Palestinians elected Hamas. They are their de-facto army. The fact that they are deliberately operating from populated area does nothing to change that.
These people aren't Israeli citizens, so that's anyway no place for police.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Karma is real... and Israel claims they want peace.. they are the evil... Why do you think their God hasn't stopped all these people...no way can he/she be happy that Israel ALSO thinks it is ok to murder innocents...

both sides are terrorists... just one side holds far more power and influence than the other..

All of you in this thread saying you will murder innocent children will go to hell if there is such a place..

Why would God wait until the afterlife to get even with evildoers?

The evidence is abundantly clear: God ain't here, there, or anywhere.

 

[mattpegher]

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar

Originally posted by: mattpegher

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: mattpegher
If someone is firing from a school at my house then I would leave and call the police.

What "police" are the Israeli troops going to call, and wtf could any police do to stop Hamas from firing?

Remember, these are not criminals taking hostages and making reasonable demands on otherwise peaceful streets... these are terrorists who want you, and every policeman who may show up, dead. They also thrive on civilian carnage.

Your analogy is one big fail.

As most armed conflicts are in the last 50 have been police actions. Even Iraq ceased to be a war after a week. A police action is defined as engaging enemy combatants that have infiltrated into a civilian population.

Your attempt at being a human being "is one big fail".

Again patronizing over the Palestinians, aren't we? The Palestinians elected Hamas. They are their de-facto army. The fact that they are deliberately operating from populated area does nothing to change that.
These people aren't Israeli citizens, so that's anyway no place for police.

I have no bias for palestinians or Isreal. I simply adhere to the belief that there exists many innocents that through no fault of their own are living in this area. I am sure many offer no support of hamas or its agents. And for those that do, the punishment needs to be porportionate to the crime.

 

[jonks]

I don't care if it's a school or someone's house. This is the same shit every single time. When Israel was attacking Lebanon and bombing houses where rockets were being fired from they were condemned then too. If you have someone firing rockets from your house and you either let them do so or can't stop them from doing so, then expect your house to get flattened. Life sucks.

When terrorists took over that school in Russia and gov't ended up trying to knock everyone out with gas and lots of people died, the alternative was everyone dying when the bomb-strapped hostiles blew themselves up. Russia caught a lot of heat for that but it was the suicide bombers who signed the death warrants of every person there when they initiated the action against civilians, exactly for the purpose of using them as shields.

We cannot justify the tactic of using civilians as shields or every idiot with a gun, bomb or rocket will do so. There is only one guilty party when this tragedy takes place and it's the people who hide behind civilians. Hamas sends suicide bombers and rockets into israel with the purpose and design of killing civilians, they can hardly make legitimate complaint that retalitory strikes against them which accidentally kill civilians are morally questionable.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: jonks
I don't care if it's a school or someone's house. This is the same shit every single time. When Israel was attacking Lebanon and bombing houses where rockets were being fired from they were condemned then too. If you have someone firing rockets from your house and you either let them do so or can't stop them from doing so, then expect your house to get flattened. Life sucks.

this.

There is only one guilty party when this tragedy takes place and it's the people who hide behind civilians. Hamas sends suicide bombers and rockets into israel with the purpose and design of killing civilians, they can hardly make legitimate complaint that retalitory strikes against them which accidentally kill civilians are morally questionable.

...and this!

 

[AstroGuardian]

Yes and no! Why? Cause during war schools do not work and children hide underground. And after a war, schools are the last thing on politician's minds to renew.

So WTF? If they fire from a school, there are no children. I would obliterate the whole block!

 

[Zebo]

Lots of scenarios which would necessitate blowing a school. Rockets, missiles and artillery fired from said school trying to kill people in my country. A nuke in there about to go off. Enemy Fire from there tying to kill our soldiers and so on.

But as retaliation or revenge with no clear military objective, hell no, but then I don't believe 72 virgins and treasure greater than the world and everything in it are conferred upon martyrdom either.

Is this one of those silly threads tying to blame Israel for Hamas holding their population hostage in bunkers, mosques and schools while they attack?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I think the better question is: Would you run into a school full of children and attack your enemy from that position?

 

[Sedition]

Originally posted by: Anubis
Q: Would You Bomb A School?

A: Yes


Why: Simple I don?t buy into any of the rules of war crap, IMO you do anything and everything you need to win. If that means you kidnap the kids of the other side?s leaders and send them back in pieces wrapped in lil boxes so be it.

you mean like running a plane into a building. terrorist.

 

[alchemize]

The difference between "us" and "them" is as follows...

"Our" answer is "it depends on the circumstances, and with great regret when we harm innocents".
"Their" answer is "of course, and not feel an ounce of guilt"

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: alchemize
The difference between "us" and "them" is as follows...

"Our" answer is "it depends on the circumstances, and with great regret when we harm innocents".
"Their" answer is "of course, and not feel an ounce of guilt"

I'm sure 'they' would say the same about 'you', but the reality is that both sides consider the other sides's population to be subhuman due to race and religeon, and therefore to kill them is no more than to put down a dog.

When the smoke clears, the children will still be dead, and their parents will not care what passed through the minds of the murderers.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Czar
Title: Would You Bomb A School?

I would return fire on ANY location. Which is along the same principles of MAD, there have to be dire consequences for killing people.

 

[ender11122]

The second Hamas, the ruling party in the Gaza Strip, bombed Israel, it started a WAR. Israel showed great restraint by waiting so long before they actually invaded, but you only swat at the fly so many times with your hand before you go get the fly swatter and smush the fuck out of it.

Palestinians voted for the Hamas rulers, so by default they are on the opposing side. I feel sorry for them, because they were so ignorant as to vote for leaders that would put so little stock in their own peoples lives, but it is, in the end, their own fault. Israel has done alot more than I would even expect to help limit civilian casualties but in the end it is a war and Israel is doing what must be done to eliminate the treat on their country.

To those claiming war doesn't exist anymore. It most certainly does, its just evolved, as all things do. Hamas is not fighting a real war, they are fighting a media war. Israel is fighting a real war against a media war, and thats why people are screaming war crimes ect. because they don't understand the difference.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alchemize
The difference between "us" and "them" is as follows...

"Our" answer is "it depends on the circumstances, and with great regret when we harm innocents".
"Their" answer is "of course, and not feel an ounce of guilt"

I'm sure 'they' would say the same about 'you', but the reality is that both sides consider the other sides's population to be subhuman due to race and religeon, and therefore to kill them is no more than to put down a dog.

When the smoke clears, the children will still be dead, and their parents will not care what passed through the minds of the murderers.

Bullshit. I could post 100's of examples how you are wrong.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: alchemize
The difference between "us" and "them" is as follows...

"Our" answer is "it depends on the circumstances, and with great regret when we harm innocents".
"Their" answer is "of course, and not feel an ounce of guilt"

I'm sure 'they' would say the same about 'you', but the reality is that both sides consider the other sides's population to be subhuman due to race and religeon, and therefore to kill them is no more than to put down a dog.

When the smoke clears, the children will still be dead, and their parents will not care what passed through the minds of the murderers.

Just like the parents of innocent children killed by suicide bombers. You know the difference? One side doesn't intentionally target innocents and the other one does....in my book...that speaks volumes.