Would You Bomb A School?

[SoundTheSurrender]

You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

Well, religion makes one do fucked up things. Have you read the bible lately?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

What would you do if those "Hamas people" are shooting from the school and killing your own soldiers and civilians?

retreat?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
@OP
Hamas was using that UN school as a human shield. They have shown a pattern of endangering their own people not only for protection, but as a publicity STUNT. You cry murder at Israel when they attack the terrorists and kill several civilians that hamas have placed themselves in close proximity to (children make the best shields), but you encourage hamas to continue. You want more civilian deaths, you can say otherwise but you would be lying.

Think about what it would mean to allow human shields to be a effective tool. Will you clap if you saw a hamas fighter with a baby strapped to his chest shooting at Israeli civilians with impunity? This is your idea of right.

Israel is not without fault in this conflict, but the other side is not a bunch of saints either.

Israel has not offered any proof of that, and are not so forthcoming in doing so at all.
http://www.videosift.com/video...an-nailed-by-AlJazeera

There is a video of Hamas launching mortars from a school.
video

Then we have the video of Hamas hiding weapons in a Mosque.
video

And then we have Hamas using an ambulance as a troop carrier.
video

And you wonder why Israel bombs schools and attacks ambulances? They would be stupid not too. The second Israel proclaims that they will no longer attack schools every member of Hamas will move into a school.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Anubis
Q: Would You Bomb A School?

A: Yes


Why: Simple I don?t buy into any of the rules of war crap, IMO you do anything and everything you need to win. If that means you kidnap the kids of the other side?s leaders and send them back in pieces wrapped in lil boxes so be it.

lol. A bit of an extremist. There is no point in war in this day and age so this discussion is moot.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

Well, religion makes one do fucked up things. Have you read the bible lately?

Oh, so Israel is doing that because of religion? I never realized that. Thanks

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

What would you do if those "Hamas people" are shooting from the school and killing your own soldiers and civilians?

retreat?

Shooting? There was no proof that there were any Hama's people in there.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

What would you do if those "Hamas people" are shooting from the school and killing your own soldiers and civilians?

retreat?

Well I wouldn't be at war with hamas, so they wouldn't even be shooting at me and my homies. We'd all chill and smoke some ganja while watching Beverly Hills Cop 2....


...until they started hogging the joint.. THEN I'd bomb the school.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Maybe someone should start a thread as obviously biased and one-sided as this one with a question like:

Would you bomb your neighbors?

Would you bomb your neighbors, launching your mortars from a schoolyard to provoke them to fire back at you in hopes of having innocents injured purely for PR purposes?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

What would you do if those "Hamas people" are shooting from the school and killing your own soldiers and civilians?

retreat?

Shooting? There was no proof that there were any Hama's people in there.

There may not be "proof" for this specific incident, but it has been proven that Hamas has attacked from UN schools in the past; Hamas' entire standard operating procedure centers around drawing fire upon civilians for PR purposes.

Yet, you give them the benefit of the doubt in this situation!?

Of course you do...

 

[ZzZGuy]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
You guys are fucked up.

You guys would pull the trigger to bomb a school full of children because you think a couple Hama's people are there? I'm calling bullshit on that.

First note I'm disregarding the OPs idea that pali schools are Israel schools.

Assuming it's a isolated incident, depends. If they are shooting at a military unit I'd order them to either retreat or seek shelter while I send in a overwhelming force to capture (if possible) and have them anally raped by a donkey until they bleed to death on live TV. If they are firing on my civilian population, depends if they have proper shelter (and are in it, Israel has a 15 second early warning system) I "may" wait to send in that over whelming force, but if they are say targeting a school full of kids then I'd level that school they are firing from and damn their civilian causalities.

If it's a trend that the terrorists keep using their civilian structures full of civilians to launch attacks from, I would return fire without consideration for those civilians until they stop that tactic. Human shields is a horrible and evil tactic that I will not allow to become a effective tactic to be used against me.

 

[ZzZGuy]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
So instead of confronting Hamas about using schools as shelters (not to mention their vast explosives deployment throughout the neighborhoods of Gaza), you are accusing Israel of intentionally firing back?

Do you think Israel shot at it to kill Palestinian children, or to fire back at a launch site? If it's the former, then obviously your viewpoint is so skewed there's no use to continue this discussion. If it's the latter, well, it's debatable. Don't forget the modern "ethics of war" were written at a time the world didn't know what is extremist Islam, children and women on a suicide mission and taking shelter among civilian population.

Why would there be children in a school during this military action? That just doesn't make sense.

Because it was a shelter.

Human shields FTL - everyone's loss.

It was a UN run shelter


What about the other story then, Israel rounds up civilians and tells them to stay inside one building for their own safety, about a day later they blow up the building killing at least 30 people.

Do you have any credible source for that? And again, do you think it was a mistake, or intentional? And if it's a mistake, what can you do?

Don't you think that the path of granting immunity to terrorist groups operating from within cooperative population isn't viable? Where do you draw the line?

If the top of AQ were to conduct a meeting inside a 10 story building, with the tenants of the building well aware to their presence, and you knew that would be your only chance to get them, would you? It's saddening, but when they cooperate, they no longer are civilians. You don't need to be armed in order to be a participant, as Gaza shows.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7819492.stm
http://mbl.is/mm/frettir/erlen...du_hus_fullt_af_folki/ (watch the rauters video there)

I want to hear Israel's side of the story on this. What we have here is one side of the story but not the other.

 

[Jiggz]

Israel is a survivalist while its enemies are extremists! To survive, you will do everything you can to survive as far as the extent of the law will allow; on the otherhand extremists will do everything to the extreme to survive including use of women, children and the sick.

 

[NoShangriLa]

Wow!

So much hates and callous people in "the greatest nation of the world" America.

It is bad enought to kill accidentially, but intentionally killing children is just wrong.

In America you go to jail for killing children accidentially on the charge of negligent, and you will be very popular if inmates find out that you intentionally kills children.

 

[manowar821]

Never.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
It is bad enough to kill accidentally, but intentionally killing children is just wrong.

I know, right! It's such a shame that Hamas would do such an evil thing...

 

[NoShangriLa]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
It is bad enough to kill accidentally, but intentionally killing children is just wrong.

I know, right! It's such a shame that Hamas would do such an evil thing...

2 wrongs don't make a right.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
It is bad enough to kill accidentally, but intentionally killing children is just wrong.

I know, right! It's such a shame that Hamas would do such an evil thing...

Your bias should disgust you.

Torture is not good

Murdering a few children so as to possibly get revenge or kill a Hamas miliant is ok

Please seek to immigrate to Israel... they probably won't accept you anyhow

 

[dahunan]

Karma is real... and Israel claims they want peace.. they are the evil... Why do you think their God hasn't stopped all these people...no way can he/she be happy that Israel ALSO thinks it is ok to murder innocents...

both sides are terrorists... just one side holds far more power and influence than the other..

All of you in this thread saying you will murder innocent children will go to hell if there is such a place..

 

[SamurAchzar]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Karma is real... and Israel claims they want peace.. they are the evil... Why do you think their God hasn't stopped all these people...no way can he/she be happy that Israel ALSO thinks it is ok to murder innocents...

both sides are terrorists... just one side holds far more power and influence than the other..

All of you in this thread saying you will murder innocent children will go to hell if there is such a place..

They have no regard to their lives, why should anyone care? They distribute videos calling for their kids to go on suicide missions, it's even in their TV programming. Should Israel care for these people? It seems like they're content with dying for their cause, whatever that might be.

What's keeping us together as human beings is probably based on common values of morality. If you devalue your life, and the life of people around you, and your entire point in living is to inflict greater damage upon your opponent in your death, then you're no human being. I don't think nature has an analogy for that.

When Israel fought with Syria, Jordan and Egypt, not even ones did it put civilians in the line of fire. Even when Syria shot rockets at it Israeli villages, Israel never targeted civilians. Now civilians are in the line of fire, courtesy of Hamas and no one else.

 

[Atheus]

Some of you people really scare me.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
It is bad enough to kill accidentally, but intentionally killing children is just wrong.

I know, right! It's such a shame that Hamas would do such an evil thing...

Your bias should disgust you.

Torture is not good

Murdering a few children so as to possibly get revenge or kill a Hamas miliant is ok

Please seek to immigrate to Israel... they probably won't accept you anyhow

First, what does this - or anything I've written here - have to do with torture?

Second, it's not "murder" unless it's done intentionally. In this conflict, the only party that intentionally targets or draws fire upon civilians is Hamas.

Third, I've been to Israel... loved it there! But, I love my own country much more.. so no thank you.

Last, if you're accusing me of being biased against the Hamas terrorists, then you're g'damn right I am.

 

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow!

So much hates and callous people in "the greatest nation of the world" America.

It is bad enought to kill accidentially, but intentionally killing children is just wrong.

In America you go to jail for killing children accidentially on the charge of negligent, and you will be very popular if inmates find out that you intentionally kills children.

That is exactly true in America! In fact, in America you could end up in jail for killing (accidentally or not) your dog or cat or even fish in your aquarium! Middle East? Naahhh! In fact, you can even be praised for killing your wife or children if they decide to go against you (even if it's only verbally).

So who do you call full of hates and callous people? Americans or Middle Easterns?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
It is bad enough to kill accidentally, but intentionally killing children is just wrong.

I know, right! It's such a shame that Hamas would do such an evil thing...

Your bias should disgust you.

Torture is not good

Murdering a few children so as to possibly get revenge or kill a Hamas miliant is ok

Please seek to immigrate to Israel... they probably won't accept you anyhow

First, what does this - or anything I've written here - have to do with torture?

Second, it's not "murder" unless it's done intentionally. In this conflict, the only party that intentionally targets or draws fire upon civilians is Hamas.

Third, I've been to Israel... loved it there! But, I love my own country much more.. so no thank you.

Last, if you're accusing me of being biased against the Hamas terrorists, then you're g'damn right I am.

lol.. bias in the fact that it is ok for Israel to kill children in a school

Maybe the mother fuckers firing from the school were trying to protect their country that is also constantly under attack by murderers who use the term collateral damage to excuse their murders

TELL US what do you think the RATIO WAS for that school.. 20 innocents to every one Hamas member?

^^^ fucking tell me.. tell your Mom you think it is ok for Israel to murder them

How would you feel if Iraqis were using a school to fire from.. AND some Marines bombed it killing 30 children and 5 Iraqi Militants..

you are as sick as those you fight against...

 

[GoingUp]

Damn right I would. Especially if some terrorist assholes where setting up rockets to shoot from it during a ceasefire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN9WzUc7iB0