Would you be upset if your wife wanted to sell her wedding ring?

[43st]

Sell it and save the money or put it toward something she's happy with. Life's too short to hold up some tradition you don't even believe in. The 'destroy it' comment is asinine, there's a huge industry in recycled gemstones, etc., and there's no problem being into that if that's your thing.

 

[mercanucaribe]

She should sell it and give the money to charity. That way she is free of the guilt of the diamond, which there is good reason for, not profiting, and doing good.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: 43st
Sell it and save the money or put it toward something she's happy with. Life's too short to hold up some tradition you don't even believe in. The 'destroy it' comment is asinine, there's a huge industry in recycled jem stones, etc., and there's no problem being into that if that's your thing.

wow.

someone here does not understand the thread.

 

[Lola]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: Amused
I'd tell her to stop being a silly, trendy activist and grow up. She already has the ring, selling it won't make a difference. I could understand not wanting to buy more, but selling it is pointless.

That's my wife though, and part of the reason I love her.

Of course, it's also the reason we use cloth-diapers, and I'm not a big of a fan of that. Though it is nice to not have to spend the money on disposables.

Thus the origin of the term "smelly hippies" 😛

Ask her how much you're saving on cloth diapers when the water bill comes.

- M4H

~$30 a month, especially for newborns. We calculated it out because I had the exact same question.

I'd rather
1. Be able to drop the offensive-smelling package directly into the garbage
2. Not have to wash the fabric containing said offensive-smelling package in the same washer that cleans my work clothing
3. Not have to spend the time performing step #2

IMO, $30 for all three of those is money VERY well spent.

- M4H

I could not agree any more... my mom used cloth diapers for me, not because she was worried about the enviroment, but because she was told they are better for baby, but she always told me that she wishes she would have not taken that way. It took too much time and was not worth the few dollars she saved.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
She should sell it and give the money to charity. That way she is free of the guilt of the diamond, which there is good reason for, not profiting, and doing good.

it still wouldn't matter. she is against the diamond trade. so her selling it in any way shape or form (no mater what she does with the money) makes her a hypocrite.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: 43st
Sell it and save the money or put it toward something she's happy with. Life's too short to hold up some tradition you don't even believe in. The 'destroy it' comment is asinine, there's a huge industry in recycled jem stones, etc., and there's no problem being into that if that's your thing.

She hates the diamond trade.

She wants nothing to do with the diamond trade and does not want to be seen supporting it.

Now she is going to JOIN the diamond trade by selling a diamond for someone else to wear and therefore support the trade of diamonds?

If she sells, she does not have the courage of her convictions. She's a trendy activist who only cares what she outwardly looks like, and not really what matters.

Actually, the asinine thing here is wanting to get rid of the ring in the first place. I can understand not buying more diamonds, but getting rid of one she already owns is absurd... especially one with such an emotional attachment.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Just curious what people think. If your wife wanted to sell it, what would you think? Again, no marital problems, just hates the diamond industry.

Diamonds are a big rip off. They will have cheap artificial diamonds on the market in a few years anyways, might as well get rid of it while it's still worth something 😉

Example:
artificially grown

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
She should sell it and give the money to charity. That way she is free of the guilt of the diamond, which there is good reason for, not profiting, and doing good.

it still wouldn't matter. she is against the diamond trade. so her selling it in any way shape or form (no mater what she does with the money) makes her a hypocrite.

She wouldn't be profitting from suffering, which is what matters to her I suspect. Also, the buyer isn't supporting the diamond trade in any way. If she's worried about the inflated cost of diamonds, she can sell for a lower price... which she would be no matter what because of the stigma attached to "used" diamonds.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Bash it and post the video on YouTube? 😀

- M4H

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
She should sell it and give the money to charity. That way she is free of the guilt of the diamond, which there is good reason for, not profiting, and doing good.

it still wouldn't matter. she is against the diamond trade. so her selling it in any way shape or form (no mater what she does with the money) makes her a hypocrite.

There's no problem with the stones, just the method used to get them. Purchasing a recycled diamond allows others to get pleasure from the stone while not contributing to 'another mined diamond'. As I said... no problem with that.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: Amused

Her problem is she hates the diamond instead of the trade and abuses. She is taking her protests out on an inanimate object.

Her owning a diamond does nothing to promote the trade. Her SELLING a diamond does.

Selling her diamond will not promote the trade. If everyone who did not like their diamonds tried to sell their diamonds, the supply of diamonds will go up. Because of this, the value of diamonds will go down. This will hurt the trade. Ultimately, less diamonds will be imported which is probably a good thing 🙂

 

[Krazy4Real]

I wouldn't want her to sell it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Amused

Her problem is she hates the diamond instead of the trade and abuses. She is taking her protests out on an inanimate object.

Her owning a diamond does nothing to promote the trade. Her SELLING a diamond does.

Selling her diamond will not promote the trade. If everyone who did not like their diamonds tried to sell their diamonds, the supply of diamonds will go up. Because of this, the value of diamonds will go down. This will hurt the trade. Ultimately, less diamonds will be imported which is probably a good thing 🙂

The problem is, everyone who wants to get rid of a diamond DOES sell them... and the price remains high. Why? Because of the INTEREST in diamonds. Selling hers only contributes to this.

It doesn't matter if a diamond is "used." They do not depreciate. Once it's back on the market it's just another diamond and part of the trade. Any diamond you buy has been bought and sold many times over already.

By selling her diamond she joins the diamond market.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Amused

Her problem is she hates the diamond instead of the trade and abuses. She is taking her protests out on an inanimate object.

Her owning a diamond does nothing to promote the trade. Her SELLING a diamond does.

Selling her diamond will not promote the trade. If everyone who did not like their diamonds tried to sell their diamonds, the supply of diamonds will go up. Because of this, the value of diamonds will go down. This will hurt the trade. Ultimately, less diamonds will be imported which is probably a good thing 🙂

The problem is, everyone who wants to get rid of a diamond DOES sell them... and the price remains high. Why? Because of the INTEREST in diamonds. Selling hers only contributes to this.

It doesn't matter if a diamond is "used." They do not depreciate. Once it's back on the market it's just another diamond and part of the trade. Any diamond you buy has been bought and sold many times over already.

By selling her diamond she joins the diamond market.

It's not the diamond market, per se, that is the problem, it is the fact that many of the diamonds being imported from africa are harvested in a manner distasteful to the op's wife. If the diamonds were grown artificially or recycled, the diamonds aren't "bad." And adding supply to a market does not add "interest" to said market. Get your economics straight.

 

[pontifex]

umm..you do know that not all diamonds are "blood diamonds" right? i read or heard there was a way you can find out.

 

[SirStev0]

screw wedding/engagement rings. they are silly.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Amused

Her problem is she hates the diamond instead of the trade and abuses. She is taking her protests out on an inanimate object.

Her owning a diamond does nothing to promote the trade. Her SELLING a diamond does.

Selling her diamond will not promote the trade. If everyone who did not like their diamonds tried to sell their diamonds, the supply of diamonds will go up. Because of this, the value of diamonds will go down. This will hurt the trade. Ultimately, less diamonds will be imported which is probably a good thing 🙂

/thread

You'll end the thread on a fantasy that has nothing to do with reality?

Good call there.

 

[Safeway]

Yea, sell the ring that was $5000, and would be worth $5000, if not more, for the rest of your life. Take that money and buy a $5000 television that is worth $100 in 10 years.

<sarcasm>Awesome!</sarcasm>

 

[JulesMaximus]

Goodbye ring, hello new motorcycle! 😀

Dude, you even have to ask this question?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Amused

Her problem is she hates the diamond instead of the trade and abuses. She is taking her protests out on an inanimate object.

Her owning a diamond does nothing to promote the trade. Her SELLING a diamond does.

Selling her diamond will not promote the trade. If everyone who did not like their diamonds tried to sell their diamonds, the supply of diamonds will go up. Because of this, the value of diamonds will go down. This will hurt the trade. Ultimately, less diamonds will be imported which is probably a good thing 🙂

The problem is, everyone who wants to get rid of a diamond DOES sell them... and the price remains high. Why? Because of the INTEREST in diamonds. Selling hers only contributes to this.

It doesn't matter if a diamond is "used." They do not depreciate. Once it's back on the market it's just another diamond and part of the trade. Any diamond you buy has been bought and sold many times over already.

By selling her diamond she joins the diamond market.

It's not the diamond market, per se, that is the problem, it is the fact that many of the diamonds being imported from africa are harvested in a manner distasteful to the op's wife. If the diamonds were grown artificially or recycled, the diamonds aren't "bad." And adding supply to a market does not add "interest" to said market. Get your economics straight.

I have my economics perfectly straight. I'm not the fscking idiot who wants to get rid of their diamond because they saw a propaganda film and want to make myself feel better by making a worthless gesture.

A "recycled" diamond is still a "blood diamond." By the time she got the diamond it had passed through at least half a dozen hands. Her selling it one more time doesn't make it any less "dirty." She just becomes another diamond seller in a long line of traders.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Safeway
Yea, sell the ring that was $5000, and would be worth $5000, if not more, for the rest of your life. Take that money and buy a $5000 television that is worth $100 in 10 years.

<sarcasm>Awesome!</sarcasm>

Not when artificial diamonds are going to be lessening the value. 20 - 30 years from now diamonds could be worth 1/10th what they are worth now... still worth more than that outdated TV, of course.

Best bet, sell the ring, and buy an artificial diamond with it instead. She still has her rock, but has the peace of mind that it wasn't harvested over sweat tears and blood.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: Safeway
Yea, sell the ring that was $5000, and would be worth $5000, if not more, for the rest of your life. Take that money and buy a $5000 television that is worth $100 in 10 years.

<sarcasm>Awesome!</sarcasm>

Not when artificial diamonds are going to be lessening the value. 20 - 30 years from now diamonds could be worth 1/10th what they are worth now... still worth more than that outdated TV, of course.

Best bet, sell the ring, and buy an artificial diamond with it instead. She still has her rock, but has the peace of mind that it wasn't harvested over sweat tears and blood.

That's morally the same unless the artifical diamond is a lot cheaper, because she got it by selling an immoral diamond.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Amused

Her problem is she hates the diamond instead of the trade and abuses. She is taking her protests out on an inanimate object.

Her owning a diamond does nothing to promote the trade. Her SELLING a diamond does.

Selling her diamond will not promote the trade. If everyone who did not like their diamonds tried to sell their diamonds, the supply of diamonds will go up. Because of this, the value of diamonds will go down. This will hurt the trade. Ultimately, less diamonds will be imported which is probably a good thing 🙂

The problem is, everyone who wants to get rid of a diamond DOES sell them... and the price remains high. Why? Because of the INTEREST in diamonds. Selling hers only contributes to this.

It doesn't matter if a diamond is "used." They do not depreciate. Once it's back on the market it's just another diamond and part of the trade. Any diamond you buy has been bought and sold many times over already.

By selling her diamond she joins the diamond market.

It's not the diamond market, per se, that is the problem, it is the fact that many of the diamonds being imported from africa are harvested in a manner distasteful to the op's wife. If the diamonds were grown artificially or recycled, the diamonds aren't "bad." And adding supply to a market does not add "interest" to said market. Get your economics straight.

I have my economics perfectly straight. I'm not the fscking idiot who wants to get rid of their diamond because they saw a propaganda film and want to make myself feel better by making a worthless gesture.

A "recycled" diamond is still a "blood diamond." By the time she got the diamond it had passed through at least half a dozen hands. Her selling it one more time doesn't make it any less "dirty." She just becomes another diamond seller in a long line of traders.

Correct, although deleivered in the patently "irate Amused" condecending manner. It's not just fiscal economics, it's social as well.
All diamonds are "blood diamonds". The value of diamonds is all marketing, and sales of them at the inflated rates fostered by the industry contribute to the market as a whole.

 

[engineereeyore]

Originally posted by: Amused
I have my economics perfectly straight. I'm not the fscking idiot who wants to get rid of their diamond because they saw a propaganda film and want to make myself feel better by making a worthless gesture.

A "recycled" diamond is still a "blood diamond." By the time she got the diamond it had passed through at least half a dozen hands. Her selling it one more time doesn't make it any less "dirty." She just becomes another diamond seller in a long line of traders.

I understand your upset, but that's my wife you're calling a "fscking idiot", so back the hell off. She's never seen your "propaganda film", nor does she have any desire. As I stated plainly, she knew about the diamond industry long before the movie. The plot of the movie, which she only read about, just re-sparked her interest in the area.

The only reason she'd sale it is because I paid for it. Me, not her. So for her to get rid of it she either has to destroy it or sell it. One of the two gets me some of my money back, as I'm not nearly as concerned with it as she is.

You want to get upset, fine. I understand. But point your frustration somewhere else. My wife is doing the best she can to satisfy both her husband and her own goals. If that's not good enough for you, then piss off.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Amused

Her problem is she hates the diamond instead of the trade and abuses. She is taking her protests out on an inanimate object.

Her owning a diamond does nothing to promote the trade. Her SELLING a diamond does.

Selling her diamond will not promote the trade. If everyone who did not like their diamonds tried to sell their diamonds, the supply of diamonds will go up. Because of this, the value of diamonds will go down. This will hurt the trade. Ultimately, less diamonds will be imported which is probably a good thing 🙂

The problem is, everyone who wants to get rid of a diamond DOES sell them... and the price remains high. Why? Because of the INTEREST in diamonds. Selling hers only contributes to this.

It doesn't matter if a diamond is "used." They do not depreciate. Once it's back on the market it's just another diamond and part of the trade. Any diamond you buy has been bought and sold many times over already.

By selling her diamond she joins the diamond market.

It's not the diamond market, per se, that is the problem, it is the fact that many of the diamonds being imported from africa are harvested in a manner distasteful to the op's wife. If the diamonds were grown artificially or recycled, the diamonds aren't "bad." And adding supply to a market does not add "interest" to said market. Get your economics straight.

I have my economics perfectly straight. I'm not the fscking idiot who wants to get rid of their diamond because they saw a propaganda film and want to make myself feel better by making a worthless gesture.

A "recycled" diamond is still a "blood diamond." By the time she got the diamond it had passed through at least half a dozen hands. Her selling it one more time doesn't make it any less "dirty." She just becomes another diamond seller in a long line of traders.

Because of the INTEREST in diamonds. Selling hers only contributes to this.

Uhm... no you don't. This statement makes no economic sense. Adding supply to an already established market does not increase "interest" in that market. You are talking out your ass. If there were a steady supply of diamonds coming from silly women in the US like the op's wife, the increased supply would lower the price of the diamonds. "Interest" in diamonds is not created by the market or supply, but by marketing. I don't think much of the op's wife's decision, but your statements are absurd.